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Albert
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posted 12-30-2001 03:20 PM     Profile for Albert   Author's Homepage   Email Albert     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Qb Label Contest PageAtariAge is proud to announce a label contest for Andrew Davie's upcoming Qb Special Edition. Originally written for the Atari 800 back in 1984, Andrew ported Qb to the Atari 2600 in 2001, selling a small batch of 50 games at the 2001 PhillyClassic. The winner of this label contest will receive a Qb Special Edition, of which only 100 will be made. The Special Edition will be encased in a wooden box with rare Tasmanian wood squares, a CD including the source code, a comprehensive manual detailing the history of the game, and a serialized Qb cartridge adorned with the winning label. For more details about the Qb Special Edition, as well as all the information needed in order to enter the contest, please visit the Qb Label Contest Page.
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posted 12-30-2001 05:09 PM     Profile for liveinabin   Email liveinabin     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Great, I've been waiting for this one.
I am SO in!!

Oh hey!! Just checked the rules for this competition.
there was the bit about getting permission for copyrightable images (I'm not going down that road - don't worry)
Then there was the bit about 'use the Xype logo' as it appears on the Gunfight label.
hehe, I can tell you who has automatic copyright on that one But it IS Christmas - feel free to use it everyone I promise I won't sue
In fact - hang on - I'll post it.

[ 12-30-2001: Message edited by: liveinabin ]

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posted 12-30-2001 05:42 PM     Profile for liveinabin   Email liveinabin     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
here you go y'all

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Chris Johnson
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posted 12-30-2001 08:04 PM     Profile for Chris Johnson   Author's Homepage   Email Chris Johnson     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Shouldn't this be "Release #2", or similar?
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Chris Johnson
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posted 12-30-2001 09:38 PM     Profile for Chris Johnson   Author's Homepage   Email Chris Johnson     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I'm about to submit my first two label versions (differing only in that one is a real shot of a TV displaying Qb and the other is a simulated image). I have used a label style quite similar in layout to the Gunfight label because it's being released under the XYPE name. I would love to hear what people think about that. Eg; should it be more similar, or less? Am I "ripping off" the Gunfight label, or am I being consistant across XYPE releases?
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posted 12-31-2001 04:14 AM     Profile for liveinabin   Email liveinabin     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
As far as I know, I don't think the Xype 'range' is gonna have a definite design style. My Gunfight one, for instance, with the primary backg'nd and pic window, is a bit of a one-off.
feel free to use it of course (I probably will ), but i think the only constant here is gonna be Xypes logo (incidentally - you can either use that one or, like gunfight comp, something based around epyx logotype)
In any case, as this isn't strictly a 'first party' Xype game - as existing Qb owners will testify, I wouldn't wanna impose my scribbles on his great game
i think I'm right here, Manuel and Andrew? Please feel free to correct me if I'm way off

[ 12-31-2001: Message edited by: liveinabin ]

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Andrew Davie
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posted 12-31-2001 05:15 AM     Profile for Andrew Davie   Author's Homepage   Email Andrew Davie     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by liveinabin:
As far as I know, I don't think the Xype 'range' is gonna have a definite design style. [snip/snip]... but i think the only constant here is gonna be Xypes logo

I'm just looking for great design in the label. Feel free to 'bend the rules' a bit if you think you need to do so. The final design may have slight wording/position/art changes from what the winner submits - so the actual logo you use isn't that important.

What is important to me is the look/feel of your design, not the actual font or pixel position of elements. Of course those who go to greater efforts to get it all 'right' will have a greater chance of winning.

Above all else, have fun


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posted 12-31-2001 06:04 AM     Profile for liveinabin   Email liveinabin     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Oh Andrew, your little Qb guy there - is that his smiley mouth, or the shadow under his nose?
Just asking cause I wanna get it right before I get the paints out

Hmm, it could be the line defining his arm I guess too - now I'm confused.
This is why they gave Mario braces

[ 12-31-2001: Message edited by: liveinabin ]

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posted 12-31-2001 06:42 AM     Profile for Cybergoth   Author's Homepage   Email Cybergoth     Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Hi there!

Great that this contest finally started.

As for the 'Xype' thing: It doesn't need to be the same as on the Gunfight cartridge and the cartridge doesn't have to use same or similar style as the Gunfight one.

Here's a second example, the label of Xype release #03, revamped by David Exton:

Greetings,
Manuel

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Albert
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posted 12-31-2001 11:49 AM     Profile for Albert   Author's Homepage   Email Albert     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Cybergoth:
Here's a second example, the label of Xype release #03, revamped by David Exton:

Wow, that's a great looking label, thanks for posting it!

..Al


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posted 12-31-2001 12:53 PM     Profile for liveinabin   Email liveinabin     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
tickets for the private art viewing are available in the foyer......

"My smile is stuck, I cannot go back to your frownland"


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posted 12-31-2001 01:00 PM     Profile for Albert   Author's Homepage   Email Albert     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I just made a few changes to the label requirements. First, the box with a serial number is no longer a requirement, that can always be added later. However, since the Qb cartridges are being made by Hozer Video Games, the label requires a Hozer logo on it, as well as the text, "Cartridge made by Hozer Video Games".

We've already received several label submissions--you guys are fast!! I'll get them online later this evening.

..Al


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Thomas Jentzsch
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posted 12-31-2001 02:26 PM     Profile for Thomas Jentzsch   Email Thomas Jentzsch     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Albert:
Wow, that's a great looking label, thanks for posting it!

Yes, I love it

And the Jammed label is even better!

Have Fun!
Thomas

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Scott Stilphen
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posted 12-31-2001 02:35 PM     Profile for Scott Stilphen   Email Scott Stilphen     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Did anybody get a "sparkle" end label from Andrew (for the PhillyClassic carts) yet?
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posted 12-31-2001 06:20 PM     Profile for Chris Johnson   Author's Homepage   Email Chris Johnson     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I've just modified my first designs to add the Hozer stuff. It's really tricky modifying a completed design to add a new element. Adding several copyright notices, by-lines or other bits to a completed design may well be impossible to do without major changes. I assume any changes that need to be done to the winning design will be given to the original designer to do, and not just pasted over the submitted file...

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posted 12-31-2001 08:51 PM     Profile for Mindfield   Author's Homepage   Email Mindfield     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I have one question.

Is Qb an egg?

I'm just trying to pick a direction here, but I'd rather not embarass myself by coming up with a main character of the wrong ... um ... food group.

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posted 12-31-2001 09:44 PM     Profile for Andrew Davie   Author's Homepage   Email Andrew Davie     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mindfield:
I have one question.

Is Qb an egg?


I have no definite idea of what the guy is. He's a good example of programmer-art, squashed into 8 pixel width. In answer to an earlier question, it's a smile, not an arm or a shadow.

Basically you don't need to follow the visuals of the screen too closely - if you want to make it an egg, fine. If that works for your art. If you want to make it Darth Vader without the helmet, fine too. I'm trying to keep the design as completely unencumbered with my preconceptions as possible

In answer to the note/question about later additions of text, etc., and allowing the original artist to do this - I don't forsee a lot of changes. It's quite probable that the winner's artwork will be used as-is, without changes.

Can't wait to see some designs

Cheers
A


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I figured that must be his mouth. he must have powerful large jaws with long, curved incisors to be able to eat large fruit without the use of hands

Are you really from tasmania? cool.

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posted 01-01-2002 03:20 PM     Profile for Albert   Author's Homepage   Email Albert     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Just posted the first batch of Qb labels. You guys were busy this weekend! You can take a look at these first labels on the Qb Label Contest Page. Enjoy!

..Al


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posted 01-01-2002 04:41 PM     Profile for liveinabin   Email liveinabin     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Wow!! really high standard!! superb labels for an awesome game.

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quote:
Originally posted by Thomas Jentzsch:
Yes, I love it

And the Jammed label is even better![/QB]


Cool, are these replacement Hozer labels or something else? What does the Jammed label look like?

Cheers,
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I've submitted a 6th, which will probably be my last (I'm sure Albert is breathing easier knowing that). Rest assured that the cartoon artwork is in fact royalty free clipart and I haven't suddenly gained an ability to draw.

I've used design elements present in the Thrust label, for much the same reason that I used elements from the Gunfight label. It's not because I'm lazy, but because a consistant look (known as "branding") is a major consideration in any enterprise. My base point of reference is that anyone should be able to pickup something produced by a person or company (that regularly produces stuff) and immediately know who it's by or from.

Does anyone here have any thoughts on branding?


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posted 01-02-2002 12:31 AM     Profile for Albert   Author's Homepage   Email Albert     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Here are two more labels that we received this evening:

Chris Johnson - Submission #6
Brett Gladson - Submission #2

I can already tell there are going to be a lot of entries for this contest.

..Al


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ehmmm, well, branding?

being graphic designer and former art director of an agency i surely know about branding.

but i think maybe marketing should be taken out of the homebrew section.

wasn't it marketing that splitted the atari team when it was bought from warner?

f*** copyrights! we're havin fun with 20 years old carts. making homebrew carts isn't a big deal, rather friendly timewasting for the gaming community. i don't think randy has a villa in the bahamas just from selling carts. and i haven't really heard of any hard offences against homebrew-programmers.

we should watch that our little homebrew-world doesn't interfer too much with that, and remains a great portion of fun, not limited through all the marketing and business restrictions ....

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