INFO-ATARI16 Digest         Fri, 20 Oct 89       Volume 89 : Issue 541
 
Today's Topics:
                         DVI to Epson Program
              FOR SALE = THIS SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN SENT
                             Gem messages
           Sound Digitizer for the ST (need recommandation)
                              ST in USSR
                           TT vs 386 boxes
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Date: 20 Oct 89 23:25:29 GMT
From: milton!blake!charlop@beaver.cs.washington.edu  (Aaron Charlop)
Subject: DVI to Epson Program
 
In article <8910200709.AA00183@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> #JMKLAS@WMMVS.BITNET writes:
>Does anybody have a copy of DVIEPS.xxx (xxx = PRG, TOS, TTP... whatever) that
>they could send me or tell me where to find?  This program is supposed to
>dump a file in .DVI (device independent) format to an Epson printer.
>Please resond directly to me.  Thanks!
>
><John>
>
>$JMKLAS@WMMVS.bitnet
 
Could someone one please send it to me also. I have an Epson EX-800 with
the color option kit. It would be very helpful to me while writing my Ph.D.
dissertation, since printing to a laser would be very difficult for me (not
to mention expensive).
 
Thanx in advance.
 
--
Aaron the Alchemist
Charlop@uwachem.washington.edu
 
"Yes, I really am a honest-to-goodness alchemist"       Me
 
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Date: 20 Oct 89 07:36:06 GMT
From: eru!luth!sunic!mcsun!ukc!edcastle!hwcs!neil@bloom-beacon.mit.edu  (Neil
 Forsyth)
Subject: FOR SALE = THIS SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN SENT
 
In article <763@castle.ed.ac.uk> as@castle.ed.ac.uk (A Stevens) writes:
> ... as an Ad for a spare left-hand drive Haggis outside Scotland.
 
Actually Both hands can be used on any haggis. It is only which way round
the hill you are travelling that dictates which hand you use.
 
:-) * 10~3 and sorry about the bandwidth.
 
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Date: 20 Oct 89 20:47:48 GMT
From: eru!luth!sunic!mcsun!ukc!harrier.ukc.ac.uk!mtp@bloom-beacon.mit.edu
 (M.T.Paley)
Subject: Gem messages
 
Hello,
        Has anyone ever managed to send a message to a desk accessory in GEM?
It always bombs out whenever I send a message to any but the process that is
sending the message ( the ap_id returned by appl_open() ).
 
   E.G.
                :
        ap_wid = appl_find("MYACC   ");                 /* This bit works */
        gets(message);                                  /* Unimportant */
        appl_write(ap_wid,strlen(message),message);     /* This crashes */
                :
 
However if appl_find is given the name of the current process then this
code works fine.
 
It is not the desk accessory that is at fault as it works perfectly with system
messages sent by the AES.
 
Anyone tried anything similar at any time?
 
Any information would be appreciated, probably replying by e-mail would be
best to avoid boring everyone!
 
        Much appreciated:
                                Matthew
 
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Janet: mtp@uk.ac.ukc
       phg445@uk.ac.ukc.saturn@uk.ac.ukc
 
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Date: 20 Oct 89 23:52:30 GMT
From: gem.mps.ohio-state.edu!usc!orion.oac.uci.edu!jtang@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu
 ( James )
Subject: Sound Digitizer for the ST (need recommandation)
 
Could someone please be so kind and recommand some Sound Digitizer for the
atari ST computer??  I don't really know much about sound digitizing and
what's a good digitizer, so some explaination as to why is very helpful.
 
thank you all very much.
 
james
 
Usenet:  jtang@orion.oac.uci.edu
Bitnet:  JWTang@UCIVMSA.BITNET
 
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Date: 20 Oct 89 16:32:24 GMT
From:
 gem.mps.ohio-state.edu!uwm.edu!marque!carroll1!dnewton@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu
 (Dave 'C is cool, but what about LOGO?' Newton)
Subject: ST in USSR
 
In article <595@nadia.UUCP> peterii@nadia.UUCP (Peter Bechtold) writes:
>I can't imagine that the USSR would by ANY computers for their schools within
>the next 5 or 10 years.
 
   The Russians have been using Apple ][+ clones in their schools for some
time now, and are starting to use PC clones.
 
--
David L. Newton       | uunet!marque!carroll1!dnewton  | The Raging Apostle--
(414) 524-7343 (work) |    dnewton@carroll1.cc.edu     | for the future--
(414) 524-6809 (home) | 100 NE Ave, Waukesha WI 53186  | for the world.
 
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Date: 20 Oct 89 19:51:55 GMT
From: asuvax!hrc!force!covertr@handies.ucar.edu  (Richard E. Covert)
Subject: TT vs 386 boxes
 
In article <CMM.0.88.624863922.cmm1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu>,
 cmm1@CUNIXA.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU (Christopher M Mauritz) writes:
> Well, unless you are a diehard Atari fan (I know, there are still a few
> left), I would advise you to buy the 25mhz 386 now (if you do indeed
> need it now).  Besides, if you want to use it for work you would be
> much better off with an industry standard 386 rather than the TT (if it
> ever does hit the market).  You'll be able to get software for nearly
> every application at reasonable cost and not have to worry about the
> lagging support of Atari Corp and vaporware promises.  It is really to
> bad.  The 68030 is such a nice mpu compared to the Intel mpu's. (add ~
> an o here)  Besides, who needs another workstation with non-industry
> standard 16 bit slots.  C'mon...what a waste...Although I would like to
> see the TT fly, I don't think you will see it happen (That is IF you
> ever see a TT up close and personal...Ha!)
 
 
Not only are 80386 PC computers available there have been some really great
prices in misc.forsale for 25 MHZ 80386 computers with 1024 x 768 x 16colors
color graphics. something beyond the power of a TT, I believe. Also, the ads
I have seen indicate that the 80386 PCs have 32 bit, 16 bit, and 8 bit
motherboard busses, so can use a whole spectrum of IBM PC plugin boards (things
like hard disk on a card, internal modems, additional serial i/o, eprom
burners, geez just all sorts of things that Atari customers are too cheap
to want to buy!!).
 
I am waiting for UNIX Sys V with X Windows to hit it big on the IBM PCs.
I expect my next computer will be an Intel 80486 with UNIX and X Windows.
And plenty of card slots.
 
So, that kinda leaves Atari and the VaporWare TT/P (for Plastic, sheez what
a great name for a computer. A Plastic computer. Oh boy!!) for someone else to
buy!!
 
>
> Now that I've got my own little 68030 worksation (named after a popular
> red fruit <grin>) and have it actually in front of me (yes, you can
> actually see and touch it!), I can't believe how slow my ST seems in
> comparison.  All I use my ST for now is Air warrior and an occasional
> game.  Best of luck in your computer search!
>
> Chris Mauritz
 
Actually, Chris Mauritz has a valid point that no one at Atari can deny.
That is
        DELIVERY
                DELIVERY
                        DELIVERY
 
Atari announces a product and then Cries "FCC!! FCC!! FCC!!" as if no other
computer maker is subjected to testing by the FCC. Only Atari has to be delayed
by FCC testing!! So, Atari announces a product and months (or years in the case
 of
the CD ROMS!!) go by and no delivery. And finally when they do deliver it is
much less then the announced product. The Mega ST is an example of this. The
Blitter is less powerful then it was promised. And even the DMA port isn't
buffered, so you can overload it if you use a couple of hard drives and the
Atari laser printer. Some robust business computer that Mega turned out to be!!
 
So, from past experience we can expect a CHEAP 68030 machine from Atari that
 won't
be expandable and will be margin in other aspects.
 
Godd luck Atari!!
 
Richard (The Whiner (tm) ) Covert
 
P.S. As much as I am disappointed by the TT and what it implies about Atari
I still like my ST better then a Mac. In that regard I like to close my posts
with a description of a program that I like about the ST.
 
This message ends with my endorsement of the WERCS Resource Construction Set
marketed by MICHTRON. It is very easy to use to build RSC files for a whole
host of langauges. WERCS has a utility to convert DEGAS pictures into icons
that can be included in your RSC. WERCS has a TEST mode where you can see if
your buttons work. WERCS can convert RSC from other RSC editors. All in all,
I find WERCS to be an excellent tool for the ST programmer!!
 
rec
 
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