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INFO-ATARI16 Digest         Mon,  4 Dec 89       Volume 89 : Issue 750
 
Today's Topics:
                         1040st sound problem
                               for sale
                INFO-ATARI16 Digest V89 #746 (2 msgs)
                    question SPECTRE GCR (2 msgs)
                        Shareware MAC (2 msgs)
                        SS -> DS drive upgrade
                              STOS Basic
                   ST PICTURES ON THE MAC...cont...
                        Ultrascript experience
           YASQ (Yet Another Server Question - Terminator)
           ZOO - mni tnx. Now another question abt GULAAM.
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Date: 4 Dec 89 20:09:50 GMT
From: umabco!jcromwel@cvl.umd.edu  (John Cromwell)
Subject: 1040st sound problem
Message-ID: <849@umabco.UUCP>
 
I have a 1040st that has recently developed problems playing digitized
sound. It will play ordinary game sounds ok, but the streplay demo
sounds scratchy and low. Music Studio also has problems. I want to fix
this myself so what chip should I replace? I can get a sound chip, but
I wanted to check if I'm looking at the right culprit. Thanks...
--
John Cromwell                       University of Maryland at Baltimore
                                    Information Resources Mgt Division
                                    UUCP: ...cvl!umabco!jcromwel
                                    Internet: umabco!jcromwel@cvl.umd.edu
 
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Date: 4 Dec 89 21:56:07 GMT
From: uw-entropy!dataio!pilchuck!btlee@beaver.cs.washington.edu  (Buh-Ting Lee)
Subject: for sale
Message-ID: <1349@pilchuck.Data-IO.COM>
 
Moving, must sell.
Atari 520 ST, color monitor,  one 3.5" disk drive, 1200 baud modem,
 lots of software, and documentation.
Please call 641-1349 after 7pm (Seattle Washington area only)
 
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Date: Tue, 05 Dec 89 07:28:26 SST
From: "S. Sujarittanonta" <AKISUJAR%NUSVM.BITNET@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
Subject: INFO-ATARI16 Digest V89 #746
 
REF: Shareware Aladin
 
In response to the above Ref, I think that there still a relatively large
market for Pit's Shareware Aladin. For instant at the School of Architecture,
National University of Singapore, I am teaching computer graphics course to
the 1st Year (98 Students) and 4th year Computer Electives (15 Students) each
year. One of the program I demonstrate in the classes is SCHEMA by Mark Van
Norman (I bought from Harvard Graduate School of Design). Since we have only
5 ALadin (Version 1.3e) and 1 Magic Sac (Version 6.1) for student to use.
The shareware will be inexpensive enough for each student to buy one for their
own use.  There are 20 Atari 520STs with 1MB EZ RAM upgraded and 6 Mega 4s for
these 2 courses. I myself own 1 each of MagicSac 6.1, Spectre 128, Spectre GCR
and Aladin 1.3e. Forget to mention that SCHEMA is a Mac 3D Modeling Prg selling
to the Harvard's students at US$20.Please release your shareware quick,Regard.
 
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Date: Tue, 05 Dec 89 07:47:55 SST
From: "S. Sujarittanonta" <AKISUJAR%NUSVM.BITNET@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
Subject: INFO-ATARI16 Digest V89 #746
 
REF: Message ID 5236@BGSUVAX.UUCP, The mouse switch.
 
I have changed the switch for my mouse. I bought 2 switches for about $0.25
each from a local electronic part dealer. Just looking for the one that has
4 pins and selecting the one that has softest action. Check it contact assign-
ment with Ohm meter before replacement as not all of them have the same contact
as the Atari mouse switch. I have to bend up 1 pin (not connect) and soldered
only 3 pins to the pc board. It may require some filing of the button to adjust
it to the correct height.  Mac using micro switch for its mouse. I also found
suitable size micro switch that could be used for Atari mouse but you will have
 to cut the stems underneath the mouse buttons. I am still not keen to do that
yet. Micro switch is much higher than the square button type switchs used in
the original Atari mouse. Althogh it has 4 pins connects to pc board but it is
only on/off actions therefore the 2 pin Micro switch will work. Sujarittanonta
 
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Date: 4 Dec 89 20:23:25 GMT
From:
 zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!samsung!cs.utexas.edu!asuvax!hrc!force!covertr@tut.ci
 s.ohio-state.edu  (Richard E. Covert)
Subject: question SPECTRE GCR
Message-ID: <473ae885.14a1f@force.UUCP>
 
In article <14801@well.UUCP>, dsmall@well.UUCP (David Small) writes:
>
>       Try replying to "hplabs!boulder!tcr!gadgets!dsmall" and see what
                         ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> happens.
>
>       -- thanks, Dave Small / Gadgets
 
 
Gee, I don't think Dave shoulda givven out his UUCP address :-)
 
Now he will be soo busy reading email that his business will fail :-)
 
Lots and lots o email!!
 
 
 
--
 Richard E. Covert (covertr@gtephx)
  (602) - 581-4652
|  AG Communications Systems, Phoenix AZ   |
 UUCP: ?ncar!noao!asuvax | uunet!zardoz!hrc | att?!gtephx!covertr
 
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Date: 4 Dec 89 20:20:44 GMT
From:
 zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!usc!cs.utexas.edu!asuvax!hrc!force!covertr@tut.cis.oh
 io-state.edu  (Richard E. Covert)
Subject: question SPECTRE GCR
Message-ID: <473ae61b.14a1f@force.UUCP>
 
In article <14801@well.UUCP>, dsmall@well.UUCP (David Small) writes:
>
>
>       Try replying to "hplabs!boulder!tcr!gadgets!dsmall" and see what
> happens.
>
>       -- thanks, Dave Small / Gadgets
 
 
Dave, I am happy to see you on Usenet.
 
I would like to ask you about Appletalk support. I don't need it personally
but I was in Computer Works last Saturday when a young woman came in looking
for a STacy. It seems that she wants to buy a STacy Spectre-GCR to take to
work. she has all kinds of Macs at work and wants to have a laptop/portable
Mac for use at her home. Hence, she wanted to buy  a STacy. When Jeff (the
store manager) demoed your Spectre (1.9f I believe) she was sold. Unfortunately,
CW didn't have any STacys or Spectre-GCRs in stock ( :-) ), so she left
empty handed. I tried to sell her on a 1040ST with a Spectre but she really
 wanted
a STacy Spectre-GCR.
 
Anyway, the gist is that she wanted to be able to hook up the STacy to the
Appletalk network at her job. Jeff said that you couldn't do that.
 
So, it would be a big asset if you could figure out how to add Attletalk to
Spectre-GCR by the time the STacys are available. Heck, I might even buy one
if you could get Appletalk to work (we have Macs all over the place at work!).
 
Well, good luck with the Spectre.
 
P.S. When will Henry at CW get more GCRs in?? I asked him to hold one for me.
 
P.P.S. I just ordered my Panasonic Laser Partner. I will let you know how it
works with my Spectre 128 (I still have an old set of SW, pre-19f I believe).
 
 
 
--
 Richard E. Covert (covertr@gtephx)
  (602) - 581-4652
|  AG Communications Systems, Phoenix AZ   |
 UUCP: ?ncar!noao!asuvax | uunet!zardoz!hrc | att?!gtephx!covertr
 
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Date: 4 Dec 89 22:44:31 GMT
From: titan!bro@rice.edu  (Douglas Monk)
Subject: Shareware MAC
Message-ID: <3395@brazos.Rice.edu>
 
The suggestion was made that instead of using a cartridge, code that works
like the MAC ROMs but doesn't violate Apple's copyright could be used. This
is a great idea. No one has done it yet, which is one of the reasons why no
Apple clones (other than STs :-) exist yet.
 
It is a technical difficulty, or a legal one? How does Phoenix et al. get
away with IBM clone ROMs? Licensing? Work-alike?
 
Doug Monk
 
Disclaimer: These views are mine, not necessarily my organization's.
 
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Date: 4 Dec 89 23:47:08 GMT
From: agate!web-1d!laba-1aj@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (John Kawakami)
Subject: Shareware MAC
Message-ID: <1989Dec4.234708.22222@agate.berkeley.edu>
 
In article <3395@brazos.Rice.edu> bro@titan.rice.edu (Douglas Monk) writes:
>The suggestion was made that instead of using a cartridge, code that works
>like the MAC ROMs but doesn't violate Apple's copyright could be used. This
>is a great idea. No one has done it yet, which is one of the reasons why no
>Apple clones (other than STs :-) exist yet.
>It is a technical difficulty, or a legal one? How does Phoenix et al. get
>away with IBM clone ROMs? Licensing? Work-alike?
>
>Doug Monk
>Disclaimer: These views are mine, not necessarily my organization's.
 
 
The clone chips cover only the BIOS part of the OS.  Basically, all that
does is control access to resources (drives, video, etc).  The rest of
the OS is available on disk from Microsoft.
 
The Mac is a different story: not only would you have to re-engineer
the basic stuff, you'd have to create the screen interface, event
management, and all that other stuff.
 
It's the difference between cloning BIOS and cloning Gemdos, the AES and
VDI.
 
John Kawakami                      /
kawakami@earthquake.berkeley.edu  /            Plastic Forever!
laba-1aj@web.berkeley.edu        /
 
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Date: 4 Dec 89 21:51:08 GMT
From: brunix!iris.brown.edu!mjv@uunet.uu.net  (Marshall Vale)
Subject: SS -> DS drive upgrade
Message-ID: <22194@brunix.UUCP>
 
 I have two friends who both have SS drives and would like to upgrade to DS
drives.  One has an old SF 314 with a corner button eject and the other
has a 520STfm.
 
1.  What is a reliable and cheap DS drive to buy as a replacement?  Netters
    have mentioned a Toshiba model several times.
 
2.  Are there any hardware changes that need to be made?  For example, if
    it can't normally recognize media changes.
 
3.  What is a good price for that drive and suggested place to purchase
    from?
 
4.  Any suggestions as to what to do with the old drive.
 
 Thanks for you're kind attention.
 
 BTW, one of these SS drive persons actually has the Atari color monitor
with disk drive built it (PS 300 or PS 3000)!
 
-- mjv@iris.brown.edu
 
"And, oh! Father Christmas, if you love me at all,
 Bring me a big, red india-rubber ball."
                                   A.A. Milne "Now We are Six"
 
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Date: 5 Dec 89 00:38:59 GMT
From:
 pasteur!helios.ee.lbl.gov!ncis.tis.llnl.gov!blackbird!news@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU
 (News System Account)
Subject: STOS Basic
Message-ID: <1437@blackbird.afit.af.mil>
 
In article <CMM.0.88.628643865.larserio@kvart.uio.no> larserio@IFI.UIO.NO
 (LarsErikOsterud) writes:
>One of my friend has STOS and TOS 1.2 but we tried it on my MEGA4 with
>TOS 1.4 - It worked OK, BUT you can't move the mouse-pointer !!!!!
                             ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Sounds like it might be the same problem I fixed in Arkaniod (access to
undocumented mouse position memory location).
>
> Lars-Erik  /  ABK-BBS +47 2132659  /   ____ ______ ________________________
>  Osterud  /  larserio@ifi.uio.no  /   /___    /            The norwegian ST
>__________/ ______________________/   ____/   /   Klubben,  user association
 
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 Bill Hodges                    |  Me?  People who speak for the Air Force get
 bhodges@blackbird.afit.af.mil  |  paid a lot more than I do! I just work here.
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Date: 04 DEC 89 18:25:21 CST
From: Z4648252 <Z4648252%SFAUSTIN.BITNET@ricevm1.rice.edu>
Subject: ST PICTURES ON THE MAC...cont...
Message-ID: <891204.18242029.021014@SFA.CP6>
 
    Earlier, I posted a message about using DEPICT (I think that is
the name...I'm on the Spectre GCR and can't get to my ST side) to create
PICT files from Degas.PI3 files.
    Here's something else that is pretty slick.  Using SNAPSHOT.TOS, etc.,
take a picture of Dave Small's ABOUT SPECTRE graphic.  Convert this to
a .PICT.  Edit it with a suitable painting program on the Mac side of
your ST so that only the graphic exists.  Now then, use this as a
startup screen via BACKDROP desk accessory.  HEE HEE... funny seeing the
Spectre GCR EMULATOR picture on a Mac.  The Macintosh Representative at
our campus 'demanded' to have one.  He now has it as his startup screen on
his Macs.
    Funny stuff...
 
Larry Rymal:  |East Texas Atari 68NNNers| <Z4648252@SFAUSTIN.BITNET>
 
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Date: 4 Dec 89 22:20:50 GMT
From:
 zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!aplcen!haven!uvaarpa!hudson!b
 essel.acc.Virginia.EDU!gl8f@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu  (Greg Lindahl)
Subject: Ultrascript experience
Message-ID: <2389@hudson.acc.virginia.edu>
 
In article <473a552d.14a1f@force.UUCP> covertr@force.UUCP (Richard E. Covert)
 writes:
 
>All in all, the extra bucks that I am paying for the Panasonic laser printer
>are well worth it to me. And I am getting a FASTER printer (11 ppm vs 8ppm of
>the SLM804).
 
You know, Richard, you don't listen.
 
I posted an article explaining WHY the SLM804 is sometimes faster than
other laser printers, even with faster print engines, in certain
situations.  Several people posted articles saying, yes, in real life,
they have seen this.
 
I can assure you that, running Ultrascript, the SLM804 will beat the pants
of your Panasonic laser printer printing, for example, full page bitmaps.
 
Why don't you benchmark it in various situations before you shoot your
mouth off? Why can't you include a little disclaimer, "Well, there are
situations where the SLM804 is a lot faster than the Panasonic." Yes,
the Panasonic may be the best printer for you, but not necessarily for
everyone else. They might be very surprised to plug it in and find
that it doesn't print 11 pages per minute, every minute.
 
Your attitude is entirely non-professional. I hope you grow out of
your childish Atari-bashing phase.
 
------
Greg Lindahl
 
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Date: 4 Dec 89 21:57:17 GMT
From: zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sunybcs!fredonia!sale5312@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu
  (Marty Saletta)
Subject: YASQ (Yet Another Server Question - Terminator)
Message-ID: <1692@fredonia.UUCP>
 
   After many moons of trying (and several hair-pulling sessions)
I've given up to ask fellow net.people in the know: how does one access
the Terminator Atari ST archives through UUCP?  (My site does not have
the power to reach it via FTP.)  Is that possible?
 
 
   Much thanks in advance,
 
   Marty
 
--
Marty Saletta                         The above has been in a mayonnaise jar on
Fredonia State University           Funk and Wagnalls porch since noon today...
Fredonia, New York                                 Maple Leafs:24 pts,4th place
UUCP:...?rutgers,ucbvax?!sunybcs!fredonia!sale5312                    Hi Lorie!
 
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Date: 04 Dec 89 12:50 PST
From: Ralf Werner <werner%vax1.informatik.fh-regensburg.dbp.de@RELAY.CS.NET>
Subject: ZOO - mni tnx. Now another question abt GULAAM.
Message-ID: <31:werner@vax1.informatik.fh-regensburg.dbp.de>
 
Dear netlanders. Many thanks to all of you sending me messages about where and
how to get ZOO. Ok, I received ZOO and while you're reading this, I'll start
trying it out.
But now another question (fascinated by the fast answers): does anybody know
about a new (or: the newest) version of GULAAM? That's an UNIX-like shell
for the ST and I simply *LOVE* it. Filename completion, cmd buffering and the
built-in uEmacs and terminal emulator - just the sort of things I need.
My version (sri, didn't look at the version number - gettin' old...) is abt 2
years old and throws BOMBs when I use the MEM command (BTW: thank you, ATARI,
for the nice built-in symbolic debugger. It knows only one symbol (BOMB), but
that's a very clear way to show a bug, hehehe).
If anybody happens to know about a new souped-up version of GULAAM, please
drop me a few lines.
 
Thank you for reading this stuff.                   Ralf.
 
  [ Ralf Werner - werner%vax1.informatik.fh-regensburg.dbp.de@relay.cs.net ]
  [  (DF1RW)        Institute for bug-free programmi$%%%% core dumped      ]
 
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