
INFO-ATARI16 Digest         Mon, 18 Dec 89       Volume 89 : Issue  824
 
Today's Topics:
                     Another redirection question
                             Bantam book
                    Chaos Strikes Back (CSB) bugs?
                Help, please, with sound on the ST...
                     MS-DOS emulator with 80386SX
                     New Atari Developers Package
                     Those 'crippled' Mega2 ST's
                          Unexpandable megas
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Date: 18 Dec 89 13:47:41 GMT
From: mcsun!hp4nl!ruuinf!cs.ruu.nl@uunet.uu.net  (Piet van Oostrum)
Subject: Another redirection question
Message-ID: <2183@ruuinf.cs.ruu.nl>
 
In article <1787@ncrcce.StPaul.NCR.COM>, rogers@ncrcce (Bob Rogers) writes:
 `I've modified the MicroEMACS that came with the Mark Williams C compiler to
 `read standard input (e.g., you can put it at the end of the pipe and then
 `view/edit the stuff that came out the pipe).  Is there any way to re-connect
 `the console to standard input so that a program (which itself used standard
 `input) run from within the editor via system() will operate correctly?
 `
 `In UNIX this is done by:
 `      tty = open("/dev/tty", 0);
 `      close(0);
 `      dup(tty);
 `      system("whatever");     /* "whatever" now has access to proper stdin */
 `
 `I've tried a similar technique using the ST's "con:" device in place of
 `/dev/tty but to no avail.  Can anyone offer a solution?
 
Fforce (0, -1) or Fforce (0, Fopen ("con:", 0));
--
Piet* van Oostrum, Dept of Computer Science, Utrecht University,
Padualaan 14, P.O. Box 80.089, 3508 TB Utrecht, The Netherlands.
Telephone: +31-30-531806   Uucp:   uunet!mcsun!hp4nl!ruuinf!piet
Telefax:   +31-30-513791   Internet:  piet@cs.ruu.nl   (*`Pete')
 
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Date: 18 Dec 89 12:07:44 GMT
From:
 zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!samsung!munnari.oz.au!murtoa.cs.mu.oz.au!ditmela!diem
 en!tasis!jmw@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu  (John Williams)
Subject: Bantam book
Message-ID: <1234@diemen.cc.utas.oz>
 
My brother is going to be in the LA area shortly and I was wondering if
some kind soul could tell me where to direct him to get me a copy of the
book 'Atari ST Application Programming' by Pollack & Weber (Bantam books)
or any other recommended book on ST programming.
 
Thanx in advance,
 
John M Williams
ACSnet: jmw@tasis.utas.oz       ARPA:   jmw%tasis.utas.oz@uunet.uu.net
UUCP:   ?enea,hplabs,mcvax,uunet,ukc?!munnari!tasis.utas.oz!jmw
 
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Date: 18 Dec 89 16:12:17 GMT
From: crash!canada@nosc.mil  (Diane Barlow Close)
Subject: Chaos Strikes Back (CSB) bugs?
Message-ID: <926@crash.cts.com>
 
In article <10355@stag.math.lsa.umich.edu> dyer@math.lsa.umich.edu (Jon Brode)
 writes:
>BTW, is anyone from FTL listening? How do I get in touch with them to
>send in bug/oddness reports?
 
While it isn't strictly the same thing, I'm collecting CHAOS bug reports
and reporting them to FTL (who is here in San Diego).  Why?  My husband was
one of the play testers and spent many, many hours playing CHAOS and
tracking down bugs.  We are both interested in seeing the kinds of things
that play testers miss (perhaps it is due to just using *local* play
testers, rather than a broader spectrum of people?).  If you want to call
FTL yourself, report all bugs to ``Debbie'' at (619) 453-5711.  Or write
FTL c/o Software Heaven, 6160 Lusk Blvd., San Diego ,CA (forgotten the zip,
sorry).
 
--
Diane Barlow Close
      ?nosc, ucsd?!crash!canada
      canada@crash.cts.com
      Free Canada -- Trade Mulroney
 
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Date: 18 Dec 89 13:10:25 GMT
From: att!dptg!lzaz!hcj@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (HC Johnson)
Subject: Help, please, with sound on the ST...
Message-ID: <888@lzaz.ATT.COM>
 
In article <8912150807.AA16779@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU>, AMEIJ@vax.oxford.ac.UK (Jan
 Ameij) writes:
> Dear Everyone,
>
> Very simple, I hope... Can some kind person out there send me a command string
> for the xbios Dosound command which produces, say, middle C for 1 second.
> A guide as to how to change a) pitch and b) duration would be much
 appreciated.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Jan Ameij
 
 
Find someone with MWC.  Page 171-172 gives you a full working example.
 
Howard C. Johnson
ATT Bell Labs
att!lzaz!hcj
hcj@lzaz.att.com
 
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Date: 18 Dec 89 13:57:21 GMT
From: mcsun!unido!gmdzi!focke@uunet.uu.net  (Stefan Focke)
Subject: MS-DOS emulator with 80386SX
Message-ID: <1811@gmdzi.UUCP>
 
In a german computer magazine (c't 1/90) I found the announcement for
a MS-DOS emulator with a 80386SX processor.
 
Some information:
 
16 MHz 80386SX
16 MHz 68000 (option: 8kB cache - your ST will be 70% faster)
1MB memory (80 ns) (option: 2MB on board, 8MB extern)
1 AT slot (EGA-card ...)
MS - DOS 4.01
Processors are able to work parallel. The 386 is able to support the 68000
RAM is useable in ST mode (RAM-disk or memory extension)
80387SX optional
directly connected to the bus
supports harddisk, floppy, monitor
 
Available in January 1990. It will cost 1898,- DM (1000 $ I think)
 
by Omega Computer Systeme GmbH
   Oeltzenstr. 14
   3000 Hannover 1
 
   0511 / 17294
 
 
 
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I don't know anything more about this machine. Don't ask me, if you want
more information.
 
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I hope, that is a product, that will be available in January 90, not in
Dezember 1992.
 
I remeber MEGA ST, TOS 1.4, Supercharger, ...
 
Stefan Focke       (focke@gmdzi.UUCP)
 
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Date: 18 Dec 89 04:20:12 GMT
From: portal!cup.portal.com!buggs@uunet.uu.net  (William Edward JuneJr)
Subject: New Atari Developers Package
Message-ID: <25157@cup.portal.com>
 
What if you're like me?
I bought a used 'developers package'. I've tried to get it re-registered in my
 
with no luck. I can't get the guy I bought it from to get a notorised note to
the efeect he has NO copies of ANYTHING.
Bummer, I was hopin' to do this too. As it is, I have Laser C, MWC, both debug
rs
a BUNCH of docs, the original Alcyon C<some corrupt files>.
 
Ed <wonderin' what to do> June
 
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Date: 18 DEC 89 08:00:32 CST
From: Z4648252 <Z4648252%SFAUSTIN.BITNET@ricevm1.rice.edu>
Subject: Those 'crippled' Mega2 ST's
Message-ID: <891218.08003127.002303@SFA.CP6>
 
RE: Mega2 ST that are 'not expandable'
 
    I think, in my always unexpert opinion, that those 'unexpandable'
Mega2 STs, the ones which don't have Mega4 memory expansion areas, are
unexpandable only as per the experience of the dealer's tech or
individual attempting to work on the unit.
    My dealer has been expanding those STs to four megs with no problem.
Don't know how or if they are using their own expansion board or what,
but they do it.
    Regarding Ken and other Atari engineers who have commented on
these units.  Remember that these kind folks are engineers, not the
marketing people...  Do or die, they have to perform their work the
way the boss man says...
 
Larry Rymal:  |East Texas Atari 68NNNers| <Z4648252@SFAUSTIN.BITNET>
 
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Date: 18 Dec 89 15:35:33 GMT
From:
 cs.utexas.edu!usc!brutus.cs.uiuc.edu!caesar.cs.montana.edu!ogicse!blake!ramsiri
 @tut.cis.ohio-state.edu  (Enartloc Nhoj)
Subject: Unexpandable megas
Message-ID: <4957@blake.acs.washington.edu>
 
In article <31738@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu> kclenden@silver.bacs.indiana.edu (Kevin
 Clendenien) writes:
>but why is it that Radio Shack computers need Radio Shack peripherals?
>Why is it that Apple computers need Apple peripherals?  And why is it
>that Apple and Radio Shack peripherals are always more expensive than
>comparable Atari peripherals?  Every computer has its trade offs.  You
 
Peripherals for the machines mentioned above are NOT ALWAYS more
expensive than comparable Atari peripherals.
 
To wit:  I paid a total of $1,050 for my Quantum 80S drive with
case and power, adaptor etc...  the same drive can be bought
from the same distributor for internal use with a mac for $699.00.
My 1040ST won't take an internal drive.
 
A friend of mine bought an HP laser for under $1200.00.. you don't
NEED to buy the Apple Laser.
 
He also has a full page monochrome monitor he bought for $500.00
There's a full 2 page monochrome monitor with software et al
available for the MAC for a LIST price of $899.00.
COmpare $899.00 with $1900.00 for the MONITERM which only runs on the
megas.
 
These are only a few examples.
 
Fortunately, the TT looks like a machine that will allow a
greater freedom of choice in the peripherals market...
 
Let's hope we all get to see one soon.
 
>happens.  They work their butts off producing an affordable machine.
>Maybe one day they will have enough stock to start really supporting
>the USA...
 
It's a two-way street with lots of traffic lights.
 
kevin
ramsiri@blake.acs.washington.edu
 
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