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INFO-ATARI16 Digest         Fri,  8 Dec 89       Volume 89 : Issue 777
 
Today's Topics:
                  Detecting Mark Williams' redirect
                        Help >> COUNTRY.ARC!!!
                       LYNX Development System
                     New Atari Developers Package
          Rainbow Tos availability to people without dealers
                          Still searching...
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Date: 8 Dec 89 15:39:46 GMT
From: ncrlnk!ncrcce!rogers@uunet.uu.net  (Bob Rogers)
Subject: Detecting Mark Williams' redirect
Message-ID: <1777@ncrcce.StPaul.NCR.COM>
 
Does anybody know how I can detect (from within a Mark Williams' C program)
that standard input has been redirected (i.e., I need something like UNIX'
isatty()).
 
Thanks.
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Bob Rogers                    rogers@stpaul.ncr.com  or  rogers@pnet51.cts.com
NCR Comten, St. Paul, MN      GEnie: R.C.ROGERS
 
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Date: 8 Dec 89 21:31:36 GMT
From:
 zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!usc!jarthur!uci-ics!jvance@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu
 (Joachim Patrick Vance)
Subject: Help >> COUNTRY.ARC!!!
Message-ID: <25802838.25520@paris.ics.uci.edu>
 
In article <8912070233.AA26917@jupiter.nmt.edu> ehsnsr@JUPITER.NMT.EDU (Eric
 Hobbs) writes:
>Hi.
>    I recently downloaded COUNTRY.ARC. It de-arced just fine, but when I run
>COUNTRY.PRG, A Dialog box pops up that says:  Error #008  PC>$000000.
>What Happened? I ran it on a .5 Meg 520 STfm with NO accessories or  AUTO
>progs loaded.
>
  I got the same thing on a .5 Meg 520 ST (original).
Maybe it needs one meg.
 
Joachim
 
 
--
Joachim
?????????????????????????????   What do my .sig and UCI have in common?    |
| jvance%bonnie@ics.uci.edu |      -   -   -   -   -   -   -   -   -       |
????????????????????????????? They're both Under Construction Indefinately.|
 
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Date: 8 Dec 89 16:40:13 GMT
From:
 pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!wuarchive!kuhub.cc.ukans.e
 du!2fhdbeak@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu
Subject: LYNX Development System
Message-ID: <19467@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu>
 
In article <30200030@inmet>, hedger@inmet.inmet.com writes:
> Where did you get this little tidbit ????
>
>
> =====================================================================
> |                                                                   |
> | Keith Hedger :  ?...!?uunet!inmet!hedger   hedger@inmet.inmet.com |
> |    'It is a sad, but beautiful world..........'                   |
> =====================================================================
 
Terribly sorry, Keith.  I thought I'd put that in the posting but I guess I
forgot.
 
A friend of mine is an Amiga developer, and he told me that Commodore/Amiga
people were telling their developers on the BIX developer's conference that
the Amiga is the LYNX development system.  This was only a few days ago.
 
What I know for sure is that some of the Epyx people working on the LYNX used
to work on the Amiga for Commodore, and when Atari saved the LYNX from going
under with Epyx'x demise, the project was set in stone.
 
I do not know if it was someone employed by Commodore who posted this
information, or just someone on the closed developer's conference on BIX.
 
I don't mean to make the Atari we all know and love to look bad, I just thought
it was kinda interesting.
 
--Jim
 
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Date: Fri, 8 Dec 89 12:33:14 MST
From: Mrhyner%sed.huachuca-emh1.army.mil@HUACHUCA-EMH1.ARMY.MIL
Subject: New Atari Developers Package
Message-ID: <8912081500.aa01816@FHP2.HUACHUCA-EMH1.ARMY.MIL>
 
I was wondering if any 'new' developers out there could explain what
is included as part of the developer's kit?
 
Atari's introductory information is nebulous at best.
 
Email to mrhyner%sed@huachuca-emh1.army.mil
 
                OR
 
        asqb-sep-a@huachuca-emh2.army.mil
 
Thanks.
 
Mark Rhyner
Computer Systems Engineering
 
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Date: 8 Dec 89 15:47:44 GMT
From: eagle!ttensfeldt@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU
Subject: Rainbow Tos availability to people without dealers
Message-ID: <4796@eagle.wesleyan.edu>
 
>Date: 4 Dec 89 20:28:27 GMT
>From: imagen!atari!kbad@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (Ken Badertscher)
>Subject: Rainbow Tos Porblems
>Message-ID: <1851@atari.UUCP>
 
>gilmore@vms.macc.wisc.edu (Neil Gilmore) writes:
>| What's a local dealer?
>| (this prevents me from even thinking about the upgrade)
 
>Think again.  Atari has a service in place for users who don't have
>dealers near them to get the Rainbow TOS upgrade installed.  Call Atari
>Customer Service for information on how to get the upgrade.
 
>--
>   |||   Ken Badertscher  (ames!atari!kbad)
>   |||   Atari R&D System Software Engine
>  / | \  #include <disclaimer>
 
 Ken and John,
 
   Before I say anything else.... THANK YOU for being here so that we get
 SOME information about hardware, software, new stuff, etc. The magazines
 all seem to be disappearing but some of us want to continue using our
 machines and need up to date info on them. Again thanks...
 
   That out of the way....
 
 I just called Atari Customer Relations, (4:00 pm 12-6-89) after reading this
 message. I reached a very pleasant voice (sorry I didn't get her name), that
 informed me that NOWHERE in the NORTHEAST can I buy the Rainbow TOS upgrade
 and could not buy it direct ... only from a dealer. She rattled off a list
 that included a place in KANSAS CITY. I am not likely to be going there soon
 and don't want to travel there to buy computer equipment. To be fair she did
 mention a place in CORAM NY, which from the 516 area code sounds like it is
 upstate somewhere.
 
   I am in eastern Connecticut and there are no dealers near here. The only
 shop that I guess WAS a registered dealer at one time is about 60 miles
 from here. That is not a problem. He informs me, however, that Atari told
 him that he could not get the Rainbow TOS unless it was with Desktop
 Publishing Systems. That really is too bad because he runs a very good
 place, stocks a fair bit of software, has a few pieces of hardware and
 continues to do hardware repair for the machines. I think though that he
 has lost interest in doing business with Atari.
 
   I am not here to bitch about Atari and its problems however. I just
 wanted to let you know that there doesn't seem to be a way to distribute
 the new TOS to people who do not have dealers near them. I don't really
 expect you to be able to do anything about it. I doubt that that is in
 your job description. I just wanted to let you know that your previous
 posting seems inaccurate.
 
   By the way, I happened to think my Atari 520ST is real useful. I have
 added a 50Mb drive and just today bought an Aerco memory upgrade for it
 from my "LOCAL" dealer. It was worth the 60 mile drive. The machine is
 not the be all and end all of computers, but fits my needs for the moment.
 
 
 P.S. It is EXTREMELY gratifying to see professionally wrought software
      being produced for the Atari ST. In light of this thanks to Jos
      Vermaseren for FORM. I wish I could figure out a way to get the
      local dvi to alw (apple laserwriter) program to process this. It
      seems to need a preamble or postamble or something like that. Hey..
      I am just learning TeX and it is slow going.
 
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  Tom Tensfeldt           Bitnet: TENSFELDT%Eagle.WESLYN@Wesleyan.Bitnet
                        Internet: TTENSFELDT@Eagle.Wesleyan.Edu or
 
                  4 Laurel Avenue, Ledyard,    CT 06339 (203)-464-9009
  Pfizer, Inc.,   Box 100,         Groton,     CT 06340 (203)-441-4835
  Chemistry Dept, Wesleyan Univ,   Middletown, CT       (203)-347-9411 X2635
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Date: 8 Dec 89 20:50:53 GMT
From: matthews@umd5.umd.edu  (Mike Matthews)
Subject: Still searching...
Message-ID: <5756@umd5.umd.edu>
 
In article <474003ce.14a1f@force.UUCP> covertr@force.UUCP (Richard E. Covert)
 writes:
>Ken, that just isn't so!! *ALL* STers are hackers and coders!
>The ST is soo much easier to program than an IBM PC or a Mac that naturally
>*ALL* Real Programmers Program on STs!!
>
>
>--
> Richard E. Covert (covertr@gtephx)
 
I know of several ST owners who have no desire to even THINK about programming
their STs.  The fact that the ST is easy to program does not mean people will
always program it.
 
And, PLEASE, do not assume your limited experience (this is not a flame; I have
limited experience in this matter also, as does just about everybody) on people
who own STs represents the whole.  Sure, the ST might have a larger percentage
of programmers, but percentages don't count -- numbers do.
 
Mike
 
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