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INFO-ATARI16 Digest         Fri,  8 Dec 89       Volume 89 : Issue 776
 
Today's Topics:
                           GNU C, where ??
                      KERMIT with Uniterm v2.0?
                   PLEASE COMMENT THE BINARIES !!!
                            Printing speed
                      Problem with Uniterm 2.0e
                            Shareware MAC
                               Testing
                     WordWriter Paragraph format
                  Xenon2 and Blood Money vs. TOS 1.4
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Date: 7 Dec 89 11:06:46 GMT
From: eru!luth!sunic!tut!uta!vehka!jackin@bloom-beacon.mit.edu  (Markku M?enp??)
Subject: GNU C, where ??
Message-ID: <762@kielo.uta.fi>
 
I would like to get GNU C. Could somebody please tell me
where to get it ? I can FTP.
 
thanks,
MM.
 
! Markku M?enp?? ! University of Tampere, Finland !
 
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Date: 8 Dec 89 01:14:35 GMT
From: ncrlnk!ncrwic!wsucsa!mwjester@uunet.uu.net
Subject: KERMIT with Uniterm v2.0?
Message-ID: <8316@wsucsa.uucp>
 
In article <2240@cuphub.cup.edu>, kar7481@cuphub.cup.edu (Dan
 Karbowsky;AtariEliteOfPghPa bbs412-384-5609) writes:
> In article <8912050802.AA12678@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU>, AMEIJ@vax.oxford.ac.UK
 (Jan Ameij) writes:
>> I have had lotsa problems transferring binary files with Uniterm kermit, from
>> a VAXCluster. The solution seems to be...SET FILE TYPE FIXED on the VAX
>> (Kermit-32>) and BINARY on the ST. Both binary -> dozens of errors...
>>
>> I don't know why it works, but it does.
>>
>>
>> Jan
>
> I am on a VAX-8350 and use kermit-32> also...
>
> I have found that 99.9% of all KERMIT up/downloads will work using UNITERM
 2.0d
> if you issue a "SET DELAY n" command: whereas; n = number of seconds you think
> you'll need to select the SEND/RECV file and go into send/recv mode...
>
> Hope this helps SOMEONE out there....
>
> --
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I also work with a VAX (or VAXen) - an 8650 and a 750.  I had problems with
a few versions of Kermit when downloading binaries, due to delays in escaping
to local mode and starting the receive.  What worked for me was setting the
VAX Kermit to server mode and using GET from Uniterm's Kermit server command
menu (both Kermits having been set to binary type).  I could never do that
previously, as other Kermit versions (including CKermit from terminator) did
not do a reliable job when taking the VAX Kermit out of server mode, but the
Uniterm Kermit does so with no trouble at all.
 
Hope this helps!
 
--Max
(no clever sig's tonight)
 
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Date: 8 Dec 89 14:02:54 GMT
From: mcsun!unido!laura!exunido!markhof@uunet.uu.net  (Ingolf Markhof)
Subject: PLEASE COMMENT THE BINARIES !!!
Message-ID: <1817@laura.UUCP>
 
Hi!
 
   It's nice to get PD Software through the net. But it's not very nice
the all you know about the things in COMP.BINARIES.ATARI.ST is their
titel. - Until you copy them to your ATARI, decode and unpack them.
This is a lot of work. After that, you might see that you're not interested
in that you got. :-(
 
   So, please all you people which put Software in COMP.BINARIES.ATARI.ST,
please comment them! A few word may be enough. Better: Put the (usually
existing) READ.ME or .DOC File in front of the binaries!
 
  Thanks!
 
 
 
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Date: Fri, 08 Dec 1989 10:45 EST
From: Greg Csullog <01659%AECLCR.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: Printing speed
 
Rich:
 
The printout on the PC was to an HP LaserJet II via a parallel port. That's
why I said that transmission speed was the determining factor. The point
I wanted to raise was that unless you are sending ascii characters to a
laser printer via a parallel port and using the printer's fonts (soft or
hard) that pages per minute is a useless value to quote. Pages of graphics
per minute (bitmapped or PostScript/UltraScript) is the topic of speed
to discuss.
 
Apparently, Tramiel squashed the idea of putting out a board for the PC
that would allow the PC to use the SLM804 because he did not want to support
PCs - then again, that makes no sense for a company that markets PC clones.
 
The order of speed for the ST environment is
 
1. GDOS + ST + SLM804
2. UltraScript + ST + SLM804
3. PostScript + ST + HP LaserJet with PS board via parallel or serial
4. bitmapped + ST + HP Laserjet without PS support
 
4. is so far behind the others (that was the 44 minute job I referred to)
that it is not an option you want to consider.
 
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Date: 8 Dec 89 15:03:12 GMT
From: rochester!kodak!nelson@rutgers.edu  (Bruce Nelson)
Subject: Problem with Uniterm 2.0e
Message-ID: <2227@kodak.UUCP>
 
Under the settings menu item, select disabled for 4010 mode. Then save your
defaults. Modem noise won't bother the graphics mode anymore.
 
Bruce Nelson
 
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Date: 8 Dec 89 18:20:36 GMT
From: brunix!iris.brown.edu!mjv@uunet.uu.net  (Marshall Vale)
Subject: Shareware MAC
Message-ID: <22472@brunix.UUCP>
 
In article <6555@brspyr1.BRS.Com> tim@brspyr1.BRS.Com (Tim Northrup)
writes:
> Don't know if this is what you are referring to or not, but in the
6/13/88
> issue of InfoWorld was an article on work on Intermedia at Brown
University.
> I think they used a "Toolbox Emulator" like the one you mention.  The
> text reads, in part:
>
>         "The system originally was created for the IBM RT PC under
>          Unix 4.2 (with a Macintosh-like user interface) using Cadmac,
>          a Mac application framework from Cadmus.  However, with the
>          advent of Apple's A/UX and multitasking, the Brown team
>          was able to move part of the system to the Macintosh II."
>
> So, Cadmac may be the product you were referring to.
 
 Did someone mention Intermedia??  Why that's made by IRIS at Brown, and
by golly that's where I work!
 A company called Cadmus reverse enginered the toolbox, the product called
CadMac.  Upon completing that task, they soon went out of business and
Apple bought up all the rights to it.  IRIS was the only place that still
has the rights to use CadMac (though we don't anymore).
 The product that I think Tim was talking about was a cross compiling
system that emulated toolbox routines on the IBM PC. By taking
legal-working
Mac C source code and compiling it with this special compiler, you could
get it to run on the PC.  I'm assuming that they wrote their own windowing
system and look and such but basically used the same names and arguments
in their toolbox as in the Mac.  It was big about a 1 year ago and haven't
heard much since.
 
disclamer:  words are my own and no one else's.
 
-- mjv@iris.brown.edu
 
"And, oh! Father Christmas, if you love me at all,
 Bring me a big, red india-rubber ball."
                                   A.A. Milne "Now We are Six"
 
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Date: Fri, 8 Dec 89 09:34:10 PST
From: Cassius_Gaius_Longinus@cc.sfu.ca
Subject: Testing
Message-ID: <1961155@cc.sfu.ca>
 
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Date: Fri, 08 Dec 1989 10:10 EST
From: Greg Csullog <01659%AECLCR.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: WordWriter Paragraph format
 
If you have hard returns at the end of lines (i.e, you hit return to end
each line rather than auto wrap or you imported an ascii file) then the
format (F10) will not work.
 
There is a PD program called 1ST_CVRT which will read ascii files and add
soft returns in place of hard returns. Once you have soft returns, the
paragraph format will work fine. I used WordWriter for over two years
and can say with all honesty that paragraph format DOES work.
 
I switched to 1ST Word Plus because WW lacked a goto page and WW popped to
the top of a doc on a save operation. However, I miss WW's dictionary -
I've used Word 4.0 on a Mac, WordPerfect on a PC and 1ST Word Plus on the ST
and none of them have the spell check capability of WW.
 
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Date: 8 Dec 89 19:40:47 GMT
From:
 pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!brutus.cs.uiuc.edu!jarthur
 !cstein@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu  (Clifford M. Stein)
Subject: Xenon2 and Blood Money vs. TOS 1.4
Message-ID: <3483@jarthur.Claremont.EDU>
 
In article <891125.23055881.010913@SFA.CP6> Z4648252@SFAUSTIN.BITNET (Z4648252)
 writes:
>
>    Has anyone been able to get Xenon2 and Blood Money to work with
>TOS 1.4, including the magazine version of Blood Money?
>    I've had no luck here.  Other games, such as Dungeon Master and
>Air Ball work just fine.  Spectre GCR works fine with this particular
>ST and TOS 1.4.
>    It's just that the two aforementioned games don't work at all for
>me.  Surely European programmers follow Atari's undocumented rules
>and holy TOS paramaters better than this!  Am I the only one or are these
>two games incompatible with TOS 1.4?
>
>Larry Rymal:  |East Texas Atari 68NNNers| <Z4648252@SFAUSTIN.BITNET>
 
I don't have TOS 1.4 yet.  The biggest problem I have with European
games is a lot of them only work in 50 Hz mode.  The older color monitors
can handle both 50 and 60 Hz signals, but my Atari color monitor, one
of the newer ones with the power button on the front, apparently
cannot handle.
Does anyone have a little patch program that runs in the background
and constantly puts the computer in 60Hz mode.  I've tried writing
one with no luck.  I guess, though, that if it did work, the game
would start running into timing problems.
 
WHY DID ATARI DO THIS WITH THE MONITORS?
 
                        ---Clifford Stein
--
cstein@jarthur.claremont.edu  |   "Cops and women don't mix.  It's like
cstein@jarthur.uucp           |   eating a spoonful of Draino: sure it'll
...uunet!jarthur!cstein       |   clean you out, but it'll leave you
cstein@hmcvax.bitnet          |   feeling hollow inside."-- Naked Gun
 
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