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INFO-ATARI16 Digest         Thu, 26 Apr 90       Volume 90 : Issue  478
 
Today's Topics:
                            Backup program
            Drop-down menus in a window, and other stuff.
                  Found: Computer Shopper, Aug. '89
               Looking for graphics/animation software
                            Phantom Typist
        Proposed change to names of sources/binaries postings
                    The Phantom Typist - So What?
                     TOS 1.4 -- A Problem/Feature
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Date: 26 Apr 90 03:52:11 GMT
From:
 zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!xanth!austin@tut.cis.ohio-sta
 te.edu  (Jason C Austin)
Subject: Backup program
Message-ID: <12330@xanth.cs.odu.edu>
 
        I'm looking for an ST program that will allow me to make
backup copies of some commercial, copy-protected disk that I have.  I
don't like using the originals and have had one go bad on me already,
making me have to wait six weeks for the company to mail a
replacement.  I've checked the atari archives and can't seem to find
one; I have a feeling they've been kind of shunned around here due to
the possibility of pirating.  If anyone knows any commercial titles or
can send me a public domain program, it would be much appreciated.
 
 
 
--
Jason C. Austin
austin@cs.odu.edu
 
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Date: 26 Apr 90 07:06:47 GMT
From: mrose@sbcs.sunysb.edu  (Michael Rose)
Subject: Drop-down menus in a window, and other stuff.
Message-ID: <8246@sbcs.sunysb.edu>
 
Does anyone have any ideas as to how to make drop-down menus in
a window, like in the clipboard.acc that comes with Gemini?
Is it legal?  Also, how did they manage to make movable Dialog Boxes?
 
Also, I was thinking of purchasing STalker and STeno.  Does the current
version of STalker fully support VT100 emulation and keep up with
19.2Kb?  Will it work with the Overscan mod?  Does anyone know
if Revolver will switch between partitions with overscan activated,
or between Mono and Color on a Multisync?  Thanks alot!
 
 
                        -Michael Rose
 
 

(-:       When is Dungeon Master coming out for the Lynx?        :-)

 
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Date: 25 Apr 90 19:46:30 GMT
From: att!cbnewse!vld@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (vernie.l.davenport)
Subject: Found: Computer Shopper, Aug. '89
Message-ID: <14445@cbnewse.ATT.COM>
 
I have been able to get the info that was requested.
Thanks to all of you who responded to my query
for the Computer Shopper article.
Vernie L. Davenport
att!ihlpl!vld
v.l.davenport@att.com
 
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Date: 26 Apr 90 05:37:35 GMT
From: agate!shelby!portia!macross@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (Chris Adamson)
Subject: Looking for graphics/animation software
Message-ID: <11682@portia.Stanford.EDU>
 
        Has anyone out there seen any software product that could be used
in producing animation on the ST (with somewhat more flexibility than, say,
"Degas Elite" with the minimal color-switching stuff)?  I'm looking for
something along the lines of "Aegis Animator" (which I saw for lesser 68000
machines).
        I'm not trying to make a desktop equivalent of "The Little Mermaid",
just would like to sling some colorful moving characters around the screen
for possible video use.
        Thanks in advance for e-mailed replies.
 
                                --Chris Adamson (macross@portia.stanford.edu)
                                                [other nets/addresses?  Ha!]
 
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Date: 25 Apr 90 15:43:07 GMT
From: att!dptg!lzsc!hcj@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (HC Johnson)
Subject: Phantom Typist
Message-ID: <1667@lzsc.ATT.COM>
 
In article <5342@cbnewsl.ATT.COM>, wkk@cbnewsl.ATT.COM (wesley.k.kaplow) writes:
> Well,
>       Atari may deny it but I too have seen the Phantom Typist.
> This time I was running WordPerfect (Aug. 1989).  Sure enough
>
> What is really scarry is that I have also seen this while using Spectre-128.
> I was running PowerPoint and after a couple of rapid deletes (I generally
 
Now we are getting somewhere.
Previously, everyone is looking at TOS for the problem.
If it truely moved to Spectre, then it is in the intelligent keyboard.
Not supprising, as it handles the mouse also, and mouse moves wake it up.
 
OK German hot-shots (hope that translates gracefully) what do you think?
Is it a program problem in the Keyboard computer.
 
AN Afterthought.
If the problem is in the keyboard, then if the machine state is saved
(Switch-Back can do this, probably other switchers as well) and the
CPU rebooted, and the program reloaded, then it should RUN well.
 
Howard C. Johnson
ATT Bell Labs
att!lzsc!hcj
hcj@lzsc.att.com
 
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Date: 26 Apr 90 02:00:52 GMT
From:
 sdd.hp.com!samsung!dali!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!math.
 lsa.umich.edu!hyc@ucsd.edu  (Howard Chu)
Subject: Proposed change to names of sources/binaries postings
Message-ID: <11830@stag.math.lsa.umich.edu>
 
In article <RALPH.90Apr25120942@orion.laas.fr> ralph@laas.fr writes:
>|     exist it merely continues to read its current input file. So, to decode a
>|     multipart posting, merely
>|         cat part* | uud -
>|     and you get the output file, no muss & no fuss.
>
>Rather than stop calling the articles program/part01 as Howard has
>suggested above and in <1599@lzsc.ATT.COM>, making references to the
 
Actually, my posting stated that no name change is necessary. But anyway...
 
>breaking of software, I suggest an alternate Article or Archive header
>in some form similar to:
>
>       Filename: foobar.uaa
>
>If an optional header is acceptable, a) current software would not be
>broken, and b) software could be written, by those who want this
>feature, to automatically save the file under the given name.
 
>Wishlist:  for all those news hackers!!
 
>What I would like, under either rn or gnus, is to be able to specify
>the articles which make up some piece of software, and then have the
>news software pipe the parts in the proper order to uud or unshar,
>since it can accept the parts on stdin.  That way, no more messy
>intermediate files to fiddle around with.
 
I have a short (40 lines, with comments?) script called rnget that
was posted a couple years ago. It's designed to automate the unpacking of
shar files. It's very nice, leaving everything up to the "cut" line
in a file named "READ_ME" and some other slick features. (Reads from,
stdin, accepts an optional argument for the pathname to store the
extracted files.
 
I currently have a 20 line script that we run on terminator to archive
the comp.sources & binaries postings. RIght now I'm using the C-shell,
but I will probably rewrite it in awk sometime in the near future. For the
moment all it does is put the pieces in the proper subdirectory and update
the index; the next step is to scan the Keywords field and decode/repack
collections. It's all pretty simple.
 
Meanwhile, it's fairly simple to select a string of articles with the same
subject using rn, and invoke a command for each article...
--
  -- Howard Chu @ University of Michigan
  ... the glass is always greener on the side ...
 
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Date: 26 Apr 90 03:12:34 GMT
From: usc!cs.utexas.edu!mailrus!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!george!pietrzak@ucsd.edu
 (John Pietrzak)
Subject: The Phantom Typist - So What?
Message-ID: <1990Apr26.031234.10992@usenet.ins.cwru.edu>
 
In article <877@ncs.dnd.ca> balkwill@ncs.dnd.ca (R. J. Balkwill) writes:
>
>As for WP, it's so full of bugs in the Atari version that one more, or
>a hundred more bugs wouldn't surprise me at all.  It especially does
>not like maccel2.prg which also has notions about how the mouse, and
>hence I/O in general, ought to be handled.  Still, since WP has given
>up on the Atari I guess some people just have to flame someone.
>---
>Bob
 
That's funny, I've been using maccel2 with WP since late last year (when
I finally got around to downloading the rainbow utilities).  I agree that
WP screws quite a bit with the system, but you'd be amazed just how stable
their latest update is.  By the way, I hadn't heard that WP has given up
on the Atari; must have been recently, since my latest update came in
September '89.
 
J P
 
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Date: 25 Apr 90 16:06:08 GMT
From: att!dptg!lzsc!hcj@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (HC Johnson)
Subject: TOS 1.4 -- A Problem/Feature
Message-ID: <1668@lzsc.ATT.COM>
 
I wish to describe a feature of TOS 1.4 that I have been forced to acknowledge.
(You know, a feature is a bug that won't be fixed).
 
TOS 1.4 desktop attempted to get the "current directory" straight to help
finding RSC files.  This is what is left.
 
To show the problem:
1.
At the desktop, open 2 windows on C:.
In each window, open a different folder.
2.
Call the windows A and B.
The current window (foreground) is A.  the other one is B
3.
Click on window B.
Many programs in this window will not be able to run because
they attempt to find a file in "the current directory", and
a Dgetpath() will show that that is for window A.
EX. MSH cannot find profile; Spectre cannot find driver; etc.
4.
After this attempt to run has failed, usually a benign bomb, the
desktop is refreshed, and the path is now corrected.
Now the program will run if clicked on.
 
 
 
Howard C. Johnson
ATT Bell Labs
att!lzsc!hcj
hcj@lzsc.att.com
 
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