INFO-ATARI16 Digest         Wed, 22 Nov 89       Volume 89 : Issue 693
 
Today's Topics:
          Gadgets by Small - Possible new '030 add-on board!
                     High density Floppies on ST
                    Mega4ST/SLM804/Turbo16 needed
                            Shareware Mac
                       spectrum and digitizers
                               ST Mouse
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Date: 22 Nov 89 09:41:31 GMT
From: mcsun!unido!tub!tmpmbx!netmbx!hase@uunet.uu.net  (Hartmut Semken)
Subject: Gadgets by Small - Possible new '030 add-on board!
 
In article <2307@hudson.acc.virginia.edu> gl8f@astsun.astro.Virginia.EDU (Greg
 Lindahl) writes:
>In article <3795@netmbx.UUCP> hase@netmbx.UUCP (Hartmut Semken) writes:
>>I exspect the Gadgets board to help a lot with Spectre and do almost
>>nothing for TOS.
>Hm. I thought the FaST Tech board was a 16mhz 68000 with a
>write-through 32k cache.
>The way that it wins over the PAK68 is that Jim Allen has partially
>decoupled the processor speed from the video speed.
 
True.
 
The PAK68 was designed to be swapped against any 68000 proc. It's not ST
specific and does not fit in the ST enviroment nicely.
A ST specific board can do pretty much more.
 
The main problem with the 020 cache is self modifying code.
The external, write trough cache of the 16 MHz 68000 boards works well,
the 020 and 030 internal chaches won't.
As Alan said, some programs will loose on the TT; the reason is the
cache.
 
>> The ST is a closed machine; a compatible, faster
>>redesign is pretty exspensive.
>But the TT *is* a compatible redesign with 32-bit everything, right?
>It will be interesting to compare the TT to other similar '030 boxes,
>when/if it arrives.
 
For me, the "if" is true.
I'll believe in this machine, if I could buy one at my dealer's.
 
Mr Hartman said, it would ship Sep to Okt 1989 (march, CeBIT).
This statement was corrected at the Atari fair in Duesseldorf to Nov 89.
 
Now it's "early 1990".  Too bad.  Now, Nov, is the time, everybody
discovers, he has something left in the budget.  He thinks about what to
spend it on.
 
He will not spend it on a non-existing machine...
 
 
hase
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Hartmut Semken, Lupsteiner Weg 67, 1000 Berlin 37 hase@netmbx.UUCP
Dennis had stepped up into the top seat whet its founder had died of a
lethal overdose of brick wall, taken while under the influence of a
Ferrari and a bottle of tequila. (Douglas Adams; the long dark teatime...)
 
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Date: 22 Nov 89 16:13:11 GMT
From: uvm-gen!pegram@uunet.uu.net  (pegram r)
Subject: High density Floppies on ST
 
Rats! I looked up the possible seek rates last night, 6 msec is as slow
as she goes.  It would also be hard to boot from a floppy with this
mod (double - 16Mhz - clock for 1772 + formatter + "6"msec seek rate).
Do you have to have a seek rate setting boot sector on every boot
floppy and would that idea even work?
 
 
 Bob Pegram (pegram@griffin.uvm-gen.uvm.edu)
 
 
 
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Date: 22 Nov 89 17:05:12 GMT
From: ogccse!blake!ramsiri@ucsd.edu  (Enartloc Nhoj)
Subject: Mega4ST/SLM804/Turbo16 needed
 
Why do I want a TT?  Why do I complain?  Because my livelihood
depends on it.
 
I am about to take on another major scoring job- full symphony/4 movements
that needs to be delivered in January.
 
Unfortunately, the graphics of the ST is mighty slow when you start
shifting a full score around on the screen.  This leads to mistakes
if not a heart attack due to frustration.  I really want a fast 030.
 
Buy a MAC?  no way... the ATARI software is better.  So I have to
relegate myself to the ST... I have been holding off buying a Mega
for a long time.. thinking the TT was just around the corner.
 
I don't know why i thought that... perhaps its just a good marketing
plan on the part of ATARi... get as many megas off the shelf for
the OLD price before we introduce the TT...
 
 
If the MAC had an ATARI emulator,  I'd use NOTATOR on the MAC..
Some of us own a machine for its SOFTWARE.
 
-kevin
Anybody interested in unloading their Mega4ST/SLM804 (or HP)
please let me know...  i may need it next week.
 
ramsiri@blake.acs.washington.edu
 
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Date: 22 Nov 89 20:20:12 GMT
From: cs.utexas.edu!samsung!xanth!xanth.cs.odu.edu!scott@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu
 (Scott Yelich)
Subject: Shareware Mac
 
In article <641@nixpbe.UUCP> capit@peun11.uucp (Capitain) writes:
> I didn't receive any answer at all to my first mail.
> Is there really no interest in a shareware mac emulator???
 
I responded in private.... other people responded to the network.
 
Again, I said:
 
  I would like it, it it had the 128k roms+sound.
 
Scott
 
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 Scott D. Yelich                                 scott@cs.odu.edu [128.82.8.1]
 After he pushed me off the cliff, he asked me, as I fell, ``Why'd you jump?''
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Date: 22 Nov 89 20:17:49 GMT
From:
 gem.mps.ohio-state.edu!samsung!xanth!xanth.cs.odu.edu!scott@tut.cis.ohio-state.
 edu  (Scott Yelich)
Subject: spectrum and digitizers
 
In article <21@spocom.UUCP> gng@spocom.UUCP writes:
> Thanks to Lars-Erik Osterud (larserio@ifi.uio.no),
> Scott D. Yelich (scott@cs.odu.edu), and Steve Belczyk (seb3@gte.com) for
> their info. on Spectrum/Quantum Paint.
 
you're welcome.... (Did I say anything?)
 
> I think I should reveal first why I've been asking for this info.
> I may very soon get access to a Nikon LS-300 (or was it 500?  ahh...) film
> scanner - how it differs from something like Computereyes is that instead of
> getting an image from a video camera or vcr/tv, the Nikon (and other film
> scanners like it probably) gets it's image from a negative/positive 35mm
> slide.  And at a great resolution too - 4096x6144 as I recall!  And at 24bits
> (16.7 million colours), etc, etc....Now, I know Trio Engineering (Spectrum's)
> has worked with Digital Vision (Computereyes) to make Computereyes save a
> digitized image in Spectrum format, but I haven't heard of any other efforts
> by them - especially with a film scanner.
 
I have a computer eyes.... for $150 (brand new) or trade toward an old
hard drive...  I got this compter eyes, and I have sent it
back to the company twice.  They say it works on their computers.... but
it wont work on mine.  So, it doesnt do me any good.
 
--
 
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 Scott D. Yelich                                 scott@cs.odu.edu [128.82.8.1]
 After he pushed me off the cliff, he asked me, as I fell, ``Why'd you jump?''
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Date: 22 Nov 89 15:26:14 GMT
From: psuvm!bgb100@psuvax1.cs.psu.edu  (Bruce Blanar)
Subject: ST Mouse
 
This may be a little after the fact, but I did not think of this before...
Some people out there have been looking for inexpensive replacements for
their Atari mouse.  Well, there is another option that hasn't be mentioned
recently.  The Atari 2600 trackball.  With just 4 wires added to the
circuit, the trackball can be used as a mouse for the ST in the "TRACKBALL"
position of the switch, but yet function as a joystick in the "JOYSTICK"
selection.  The mod. works quite well and having the joystick portion
functioning yet is a real plus.  The nicest fact is that the trackball can
be picked up at Kay-Bee toy and hobby stores for about $10.  Not bad
compared to the $50 pricetag for the replacement mice in the market.
 
Just wanted to offer another alternative!
 
Bruce Blanar
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