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INFO-ATARI16 Digest         Fri, 13 Oct 89       Volume 89 : Issue 515
 
Today's Topics:
                  1040St for sale or possible trade
              Avant-Garde's PC_DDRVR.SYS and PC_HDH.SYS?
                              Databases
                        Get Current Directory
                         Help With FTP Binary
                         Laser C and TOS 1.4
                          PD Word Processors
                PMFS Serial Disk Driver (New version)
                      Stop griping for a moment
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Date: 13 Oct 89 01:30:34 GMT
From:
 gem.mps.ohio-state.edu!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!aplcen!jhunix!ins_bac@tut.cis.oh
io-state.edu  (Ajay Choudhri)
Subject: 1040St for sale or possible trade
 
For Sale or Trade for PC clone.
 
Complete Atari Package
       -Atari 1040ST computer
        features
        800k DS drive internal capable of reading MS-DOS and TOS disks
	mouse
	1 megabyte of memory (1024k)
	TOS v1.4 eproms installed (latest version)
       -Atari Sm-124 Monochrome Monitor
	high resolution, fine dot pitch monitor
       -20 disks of PD utilities, games, applications to start up with
	some original, most PD.
 
computer is capable of fine MAC emulation with commerical package called
Spectre GCR and will emulate PC a AT speed with Norton SI rating of 3.0
with package called PC-ditto II. Excellent machine, these two packages
are not included.
(YOU guys should know this)
 
Sell for 800 dollars or trade for PC clone.
 
please contact the seller at his beeper
at 305-353-5303 for fast response.  or e-mail me and I will relay the message.
thanks
 
Ajay Choudhri
ins_bac@jhunix.UUCP
ins_bac@jhunix.HCF.JHU.EDU
..  !uunet!mimsy!aplcen!jhunix!ins_bac
C&P telephone 301-467-4223.
 
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Date: 11 Oct 89 11:15:44 GMT
From: mcsun!ukc!mucs!liv-cs!powell@uunet.uu.net
Subject: Avant-Garde's PC_DDRVR.SYS and PC_HDH.SYS?
 
In article <815@lzaz.ATT.COM>, hcj@lzaz.ATT.COM (HC Johnson) writes:
> In article <126044@sun.Eng.Sun.COM>, kron%aiki@Sun.COM (Kenneth Kron) writes:
>> From article <1989Oct8.202742.10601@cs.dal.ca>, by silvert@cs.dal.ca (Bill
 Silvert):
>> > Lars-Erik Osterud recently pointed out that you can use
>> > Avant-Garde's PC_DDRVR.SYS to read normal ST disks on a PC.
>>
>> How do you get pc_ddrvr.sys, is this sold as PC software or what ?
>
> pc_ddrvr.sys is a TSR program supplied with PC-Ditto to allow ATARI
> partitions D,E,F etc to be accessed from MS/DOS running under the
> emulater.  It has no other magical properties.
>
> Howard C. Johnson
 
  Isn't PC_DDRVR.SYS a driver for 720K floppies for MSDOS versions 2.x???
I thought that PC_HDH.SYS was the driver to allow access to more than one
hard disk partition.
   By the way, has anyone ever got this driver to work? I would like to use
my other hard disk partitions, but cannot figure out how to get set it up
in the CONFIG.SYS file. The file HARDDISK.DOC on the PC-DITTO disk is meant
to tell you about this, but on my disk I can't read this file because of
bad sectors (I've got a second hand copy.) Could someone please show me an
example of how to access partitions D,E & F from PC-DITTO I? Thanks.
 
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"she wants me t' say what she wants t' say    - B. Dylan (Some other kinds
 she wants me t' say what she can understand"             of songs... #3)
 
Mark Powell
 
ARPA  usqb015%hp1.hp.liv.ac.uk@nsfnet-relay.ac.uk
JANET usqb015@uk.ac.liv.hp.hp1
UUCP  ...!mcvax!ukc!hp1.hp.liv.ac.uk!usqb015
 
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Date: 13 Oct 89 03:36:38 GMT
From:
 gem.mps.ohio-state.edu!ginosko!ctrsol!sdsu!crash!pnet01!dm@tut.cis.ohio-state.e
du  (Dan Melson)
Subject: Databases
 
This is a repeated question.  I'm in the market for a database, and having no
experience with them, would appreciate the views of the net on them.  The more
specific and detailed, the better, of course.
 
I originally posted this about five days ago, and got exactly five responses,
three of which were 'could you let me know, too'.  At this point, replies via
either e-mail or public means are more than welcome.  Those of you who
maintained silence for fear of deluging the recipient are hereby invited to
attempt it.  I'll summarize the e-mail responses I get.
 
                                                DM
 
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Date: 11 Oct 89 21:06:34 GMT
From: hpfcso!hpldola!jg@hplabs.hp.com  (Joe Gilray)
Subject: Get Current Directory
 
When writing a GEM application, how do you get the current directory?
 
I want to be able to use fsel_input (or a replacement) and pass it
the directory that the program was run in.
 
Thank you for any help.
 
-Joe Gilray
 
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Date: Fri, 13 Oct 89 01:51 CDT
From: MICHAEL WHITTENBURG <MWHITTENBURG%ece@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu>
Subject: Help With FTP Binary
 
 
     I'm kinda new at this stuff, but I've been having some trouble
getting arc'd files from ftp sites... specifically terminator.
I think it has something to do with the setings of my VAX ftp
end since I've been able to successfully send binary files from
my ST to the Vax and back, but I've not been able to get one
FTP'd program down to unarc correctly.
 
     Also, is there a program around, (vax arc) so that I can check
the integrity of the files before I waste time kermiting them to
my ST?
 
    Any help would be appreciated.
 
Michael Whittenburg
ece%mwhittenburg@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
.
.
.
 
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Date: 13 Oct 89 02:29:33 GMT
From: microsoft!w-darekm@uunet.uu.net  (Darek Mihocka)
Subject: Laser C and TOS 1.4
 
Re: Laser C 2.0 and TOS 1.4
 
Scott, as far as I know, there is no way to make Laser C 2.0 run on TOS 1.4.
I called Megamax about this way back when and what the guy told me is that
there never was a PATCH.PRG. They decided to fix up Laser C instead, which
eventually became Laser C 2.1. He also told me there was some way to
patch up the LASER.CFG file file but I tried many times and couldn't
figure out his instructions. (The byte pattern he told me to look for
simply was not in the .CFG file). About 6 weeks later they finally shipped
version 2.1. They fixed a bunch of bugs but sadly enough, Laser C 2.1
still has serious code generation bugs that date back to the days of
Megamax C. I have reported these bugs to them several times and each time
they tell me they fixed them. They also refuse to put in an option to
turn off that stupid stupid STUPID disk cache in the shell. In more cases
than not, the desk cache actually SLOWS DOWN hard disk access, by a factor of
10 in some cases. I'd prefer if they got out of the disk cache business and
stuck to fixing up the compiler. I don't appreciate having a compiler generate
incorrect code on me, which is what Laser C will do the odd time. I just
stick to assembler for now while somebody writes a decent C compiler for
the ST.
 
- Darek
 
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Darek Mihocka                   ST Xformer II              CIS: (out of order)
Box 2624, Station B            Quick Utilities                   GEnie: DAREKM
Kitchener, Ontario          MegaBlit   SSG   SPX                DELPHI: DAREKM
N2H 6N2                   Shareware, not Vaporware                 BIX: darekm
Canada      Blitter chip sucks!     CheapNet: ...!uw-beaver!microsoft!w-darekm
(519)-747-0386     A mind is a terrible thing to waste, so JUST SAY NO TO TOS.
Opinions expressed are my own and not those of anyone not named Darek Mihocka.
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Date: 12 Oct 89 17:46:23 GMT
From: hpl-opus!hpnmdla!hpsad!randyh@hplabs.hp.com  (Randy Hosler)
Subject: PD Word Processors
 
>	Check out STWriter, a text-based WP from Atari!  And it's FREE.
 
   Is it in one of the archives? If not, could you post it?
 
   Randy ... Acquiring minds want to know.
 
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Date: 12 Oct 89 14:12:48 GMT
From:
 gem.mps.ohio-state.edu!usc!henry.jpl.nasa.gov!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!peregrine!ccic
pg!paulm@apple.com  (tmp Paul Moreau usenet acct)
Subject: PMFS Serial Disk Driver (New version)
 
   Friday I'll posting a new verion of PMFS to accomodate slower baud rates
   and configurable built-in cache in the driver.   The driver cache can be
   anywhere from 0 slots (blocks) to as many as you have memory for.   The
   cache only caches Single Block I/O because 90% of these are you directory
   and FAT read/writes.   Just cacheing those is a great speed-up.
   The cache is configured during the first installation of the driver.
   Either type pmfs ?blocks? from a CLI or rename pmfs.prg to pmfs.ttp and
   pass the number of blocks in the dialog box.
   I'll still looking for a way to emulate ? the GEM [ESC] key function.
   Is this clearing TOS's cached directory blocks or something ?   Where
   do I find them to clear them myself ?
 
   .===========================================================.
   |  ### ####### ###     |    N O R T H    | /==============\ |
   |  ### ###     ###     |  A M E R I C A  |< An STC Company >|
   |  ### ####### ####### |    (was CCI)    | \==============/ |
   |-----------------------------------------------------------|
   |  UUCP:  ...ccicpg!dl2!paulm   |      Paul L. Moreau       |
   |    or   ...ccicpg!dl1!paulm   | Diagnostics Software Eng. |
   |    or   ...ccicpg!paulm       |    Irvine, California     |
   `==========================================================='
 
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Date: 12 Oct 89 23:42:37 GMT
From:
 gem.mps.ohio-state.edu!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!aplcen!jhunix!dat_08@tut.cis.ohi
o-state.edu  (Jared Brennan)
Subject: Stop griping for a moment
 
In article <462a4b3d.14a1f@force.UUCP>
	covertr@force.UUCP (Richard E. Covert) writes:
>Ok, now weill I didn't go to the WAACE Atari fest last weekend, I heard that
>the STacy on display at the show was the same old prototype that Atari has
>been showing for months!! It wasn't even a production model.
>
	No, and no, and no.  It was Gadgets by Small's Stacy, not Atari's.
Whether or not it is a production model or not I can't tell you.
 
>P.S. so, where was the TT, 1040STe, CD ROMs, PC DITTO II?? Did Atari
>have the TOS 1.4 EPROMs for sell at the show?? Did Atari, the company,
>show anything NEW at the show??
>
	Dealers had the TOS 1.4 EPROMs for sale at the show.  Atari has
already stated that all TOS 1.4 ROMs will be sold through dealers, so
it's no use asking if Atari had TOS 1.4 EPROMs for sale.
 
	PC Ditto II was not shown because of scheduling problems.
PC Ditto II is not SHIPPING because it's not ready yet -- it's waiting
on a cable assembly which will make it simpler to install.
 
	The TT, 1040STe, and the CD-ROM were not shown.  If they had,
no doubt you would still be complaining about vaporware.  Just as well
they didn't, eh, so you could be justified . . .
 
	I wasn't there long enough to address any of your other
questions, so I won't include them.  Sorry.
 
>Richard Covert
 
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