INFO-ATARI16 Digest         Tue,  7 Nov 89       Volume 89 : Issue 617
 
Today's Topics:
   Does anyone know how to copy macapplications to the macemulator?
                         For Stan Kalinowski
                    Re: Request for output to disk
               Spectre and other Mac emulators (2 msgs)
                          terminator archive
                          The Revolution (?)
                      Wanted: PD CAD for 1040ST
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Date: Tue, 7 Nov 89 17:59:17 +0100
From: acsmulf@cc.ruu.nl (Fedor Mulder)
Subject: Does anyone know how to copy macapplications to the macemulator?
 
I like to put macapplications programs and other things to my mac emulator
on the atari st.
I don't have any program yet on the emulator except the system folder.
So can you provide me with a method?
 
Greetings from Amsterdam,
Fedor Mulder     ACSMULF@HUTRUU0
 
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Date: 7 Nov 89 05:17:00 GMT
From:
 cs.utexas.edu!wuarchive!uwm.edu!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!deimos.cis.ksu.edu!ceres!gem.m
ps.ohio-state.edu!lavaca.uh.edu!uhnix1!uhnix2!uace0@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu
 (Michael B. Vederman)
Subject: For Stan Kalinowski
 
Sorry for this net-wide post, but (once again) mail bounced.
 
Stan, the address is 19552 SW 90th Court.
 
I am able to receive messages just fine from you.
Your actions are most gracious, and will certainly help.
 
- mike
 
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Date: 7 Nov 89 12:21:23 GMT
From: ncrlnk!ncrcam!system!mike@uunet.uu.net  (mike)
Subject: Re: Request for output to disk
 
In article <750027@hpsad.HP.COM> randyh@hpsad.HP.COM (Randy Hosler) writes:
>Could you please re-post this or send me a copy?
>It got all mangled here and I can't un-arc it.  :-(
>
>Thanks, Randy
>
I agree !!! It was definitely mangled.  Sure would be nice to have this
reposted.  I was looking forward to using it !!!
 
mike
 
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Date: 7 Nov 89 09:46:12 GMT
From: shlump.nac.dec.com!wldwst.enet.dec.com@decwrl.dec.com  (Ron van Zuylen)
Subject: Spectre and other Mac emulators
 
In article <8911070804.AA12638@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU>,
E_GS18@vaxa.nerc-murchison.ac.UK (Russ Evans) writes:
 
>1. I understand that Spectre 128 uses 128k Mac ROMs, and runs Version 6
>software.  I have also been told that current Macs are running 256k ROMs and
>that Version 7 will support virtual memory (though I presume only on the '030
>models).  How will this affect Spectre users?
 
Yes, the Spectre 128/GCR can use 128K Mac (Plus) ROMs or old 64K Mac ROMs.  It
is quite stable, at least with 6.0.2 (which I'm currently using).  MultiFinder
isn't rock solid; it acts pretty strange.  The latest release, 6.0.4, contains
numerous fixes... maybe it will run better on the Spectre.  We'll know if
Apple's 7.0 works when it is released.  Yes, virtual memory will only be
supported on MMU equipped Macintosh systems.  The rest really doesn't have any
reason to not work with the Spectre.
 
>2. What facilities for disk access does Spectre GCR support?  Can I read files
>directly from a Mac disk into my application?  Most importantly, is the GCR
>an add-on extra to the Spectre 128, or is it complete in itself?
>(Comment: at UK prices of UKL760 [US$1200] for 128+GCR+support kit, it would
>make a real Mac look quite cheap!)
 
The Spectre GCR is the Spectre 128 with Macintosh disk access ability.  It will
read, write and format Macintosh disks faster than a Macintosh.  I've compared
side by side... and it's really true.
 
>3. Are there any differences between the US and UK versions?
 
I don't think so... I'm not sure.
 
>4. Should I consider buying one when I am in California next month?  How much
>should I expect to pay?
 
Well, it supposedly retails for U.S. $300.  The price won't be much different
at most retailers.
 
>5. Can anyone comment on the reliability of Spectre 128 or GCR?
>(Comment: I bought a BMS hard disk kit a couple of years back, and experienced
>a chip failure within a couple of days of starting up.  No flames on BMS; chips
>do fail sometimes and they exchanged the card for a new one without question on
>my next visit.  Nice guys to do business with.  But I'm a long way away if I am
>looking for support!)
 
The reliability is excellent.  Gadgets by Small stand behind their products.
 
>6. Is there a good Atari shack in the Santa Barbara area?  Given that it's the
>kind of area where anything less than a Mac IIci is considered demode (please
>reinstate accents!), I would be surprised to find one.  Alternatively, I will
>also be visiting the west Bay area, specifically Menlo Park, although I expect
>to be very busy at that time.  Can anyone recommend a good place?  Directions
>from, say, downtown Palo Alto at El Camino Real would be particularly helpful.
>Perhaps there's a good store in Sunnyvale :~)
 
Well, there is B & C ComputerVision in Santa Clara and San Jose Computer in,
surprise, San Jose.  I don't know about Santa Barbara...
 
>Russ Evans
>c/o British Geological Survey, Edinburgh, UK
 
The Spectre GCR is a really great product.  The only features I can think of
that I would like to see added are:
 
- Improved MultiFinder stability (is it really just Apple's weird code?)
- Shutdown/restart that works (it is hard keeping average users "ejecting"
  hard drive partitions before turning the machine off - ARGH!)
- Selectable Spectre or Macintosh (GCR) disk format while running as a
  Macintosh (it only formats Macintosh now)
- Macintosh SCSI device support (using ICD, Supra, etc. host adapter) so we
  can use real Macintosh SCSI hardware
- Sound improvements: correct pitch, newer system compatibility, etc.
- Expensive Christmas presents for faithful users  :-)
 
Oh yeah, a fix for my Future Systems GTS-100 drive so it can work with the
GCR would be great!  ANYONE have any ideas how I can get this beast to stop
filtering out the high frequencies?  (Is that the problem?)  It figures that
I own one the only 3rd-party drive that does not work with the GCR.  At least
I have one drive that works...
 
Ron S. van Zuylen                   +  rvanzuylen%wldwst.enet@decwrl.dec.com
Digital Equipment Corporation ASIP  +  decwrl!wldwst.enet!rvanzuylen
Cupertino, California USA           +  "Order your very own VAX 9000 today!"
 
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Date: 7 Nov 89 09:21:30 GMT
From: shlump.nac.dec.com!wldwst.enet.dec.com@decwrl.dec.com  (Ron van Zuylen)
Subject: Spectre and other Mac emulators
 
In article <5987@shlump.nac.dec.com>, rvanzuylen@wldwst.enet.dec.com writes:
>............................................................  It figures that
>I own one the only 3rd-party drive that does not work with the GCR.  At least
 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>I have one drive that works...
 
I think I meant to type "...I own the only 3rd-party...".  Can I go home?
 
--Ron
 
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Date: 7 Nov 89 16:54:25 GMT
From: mcsun!unido!jf@uunet.uu.net  (Jan-Hinrich Fessel)
Subject: terminator archive
 
In article <8911061255.AA02683@nimsn41.> n-waters@NIMR.MRC.AC.UK (Nick Waterson)
 writes:
> 1) atari@terminator.cc.umich.edu.
> 2) archive-server%panarthea.ebay@sun.com.
>
>       I would also be glad to hear of any other ST archivers or Lists .
 
3) info-server@unido.informatik.uni-dortmund.de
 
or --for the folks who like it more convenient--
 
info-server@unido.uucp.
 
This is mainly intended for use inside europe...
 
--Jan-Hinrich
 
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Date: 6 Nov 89 20:52:49 GMT
From: rti!sunpix!allegro@mcnc.org  ( SunVis)
Subject: The Revolution (?)
 
 As anyone who reads the two online ST mags knows there is someone (a software
developer me thinks ) who is trying to form a grass roots movement to support
the Atari line of computers, and he calls this movement THE REVOLUTION.
 Now I'm all for supporting my system of choice but this guy seems to be going
way, way off the deep end. I mean he's talking about writing the  ROSEANNE
show to get them to do a special episode where the family wins an Atari computer
and then has REVOLUTION team members set up the system for them , oh that
sounds real funny ha,ha,he,he,hummmmm. He also wants us to write the ABC 20-20
show to get them to cover the REVOLUTION as it progresses to ****VICTORY****
(dum,da,dummmmmm), Or how about that idea of sending a get well soon banner to
a sick child from who else, THE REVOLUTION ( why not send a get well soon card
to a sick child without the  promotion). As well as a few other
brilliant ideas involving CBS news, George Bush, ect ect.
 If this guy does half the the things he wants to do he is just going to
convince whoever he sends this crap too that Atari users are idiots so the Atari
computers MUST be toys.
 
  PLEASE, PLEASE dont support this guy and his REVOLUTION. ( I think he must
be about nine years old, what with all this dreaming he's doing, Na, my nine
year old nephew has more brains)
 
 
   OVERTHROW THE REVOLUTION, Before it overthrows YOU.
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uucp: mcnc!rti!sunpix!steve or mcnc!rti!sunpix!allegro |Stephen McKay Matson
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         I knew I left Calif for a reason........Good luck folks!
 
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Date: 7 Nov 89 16:19:57 GMT
From: davidli@UMN-CS.CS.UMN.EDU  (Dave Meile)
Subject: Wanted: PD CAD for 1040ST
 
In article <810015@hpnmdla.HP.COM> glenb@hpnmdla.HP.COM (Glen Baker) writes:
>I've got a friend here who is interested in obtaining a PD CAD program.
 
I would much rather see requests in this forum phrased more on the order of
"I've got a friend here who is interested in obtaining a CAD program.  Can
anyone make a recommendation?"
 
While Public Domain programs are very nice (and my own disk archives are
fairly full of once-used or "perhaps sometime I'll use it" PD software), the
problem becomes this:
 
Everyone will use the [presumably] less efficient PD program and not bother to
consider the [usually] low cost commercial software available for the ST.
 
It would be more useful to me, personally, to know the relative merits of --
for instance -- DynaCADD, rather than to hear about the possible PD programs
which are also available.  [Though I wouldn't mind comparisons of PD/commercial
programs...]
 
-- David Paschall-Zimbel
 
The above does not apply, of course, to the unique telecommunications program
known as Uniterm, which is, by far, the most USEFUL publicly available terminal
emulator for any personal computer I've come across!
 
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