 
INFO-ATARI16 Digest         Thu, 19 Apr 90       Volume 90 : Issue  461
 
Today's Topics:
                     Bug in CSD, no help from MWC
                        DMA Port SCSI Adapter
                 Gemini Docs - Where are you Stefan?
                               minit933
                            Omega for ST?
                             RSC-editor?
                        TOS 1.4 info (2 msgs)
                               UUDecode
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Date: 19 Apr 90 13:07:29 GMT
From: samsung!umich!wsu-cs!pandora.cs.wayne.edu!pbh@think.com  (Patrick B.
 Haggood)
Subject: Bug in CSD, no help from MWC
Message-ID: <1145@wsu-cs>
 
I have talked to MWC a few times, and the reason they gave me for not
continuing development for the ST compiler was that their compiler
programmer for the ST left, and they were having a hard time finding
a new one ( I assumed the difficulty was finding one who could do
an ANSI-C upgrade, but accept little money up front and mostly royaltys,
if I were the programmer and I was familiar with ST marketing, *I* would
be very unmotivated about potential royalties from the sale of an ST
product..)
 
No, that's not a flame, I own and like both my ST's.  It's just (the current)
reality re: our Ataris and Tramiel-corp.
 
--
Patrick B. Haggood
Wayne STate University
Detroit, MI
Physics - Class of 1991 (-2?)
 
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Date: 19 Apr 90 02:20:50 GMT
From: ubc-cs!calgary!.UCalgary.CA!alan@beaver.cs.washington.edu  (Alan
 Hawrylyshen)
Subject: DMA Port SCSI Adapter
Message-ID: <1990Apr19.022050.13824@calgary.uucp>
 
Does anyone know of a company (preferably in canada) that manufactures a
''box'' that will allow someone to connect a SCSI hard drive to the ST, via
the DMA port?   The reason I ask, is that I would like to buy a new computer
is a couple of years.. as a result I will require a hard drive for it as well,
the fact that the drive may be SCSI will facilitate this immensely and keep
me from spending $$$ for a useless HD.  It would also be nice if this DMA2SCSI
box will allow chaining of devices like MORE HD's and even tape backup units.
(or is that inherent in the SCSI protocol?)
 
Mail or Post those reply's .. this is an urgent question. :~)
 
   +-----------+        Alan Hawrylyshen  University of Calgary,    Computer
    >   @     i| <alan@cpsc.ucalgary.ca>         Alberta             Science
   +-----------+                                  Canada          Department
 
   +-----------+        Alan Hawrylyshen  University of Calgary,    Computer
    >   @     i| <alan@cpsc.ucalgary.ca>         Alberta             Science
   +-----------+                                  Canada          Department
 
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Date: 19 Apr 90 10:08:47 GMT
From: ncs.dnd.ca!balkwill@rutgers.edu  (R. J. Balkwill)
Subject: Gemini Docs - Where are you Stefan?
Message-ID: <872@ncs.dnd.ca>
 
Hello Stefan.  I would be glad to send the docs but I don't know how
to reach you.  I'm talking to something called DreNet which interfaces
with Internet which interfaces with Usenet which ...  In short, my
mailer doesn't know anything about dmswwu1a.bitnet.
 
In any event the docs should be appearing at panarthea soon (they did
arrive didn't they Steve?).  Throughout I tried to reference both the
German words that appear on the screen and English equivalents from
the 1.0 release.  I rather like the screen the way it is now - adds a
certain charm.
 
At any rate, if you have problems with panarthea the way I have
problems with bitnet, let me know and I will drop everything to get
the docs to you.
 
---
Bob
 
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Date: 18 Apr 90 01:13:51 GMT
From: van-bc!rsoft!mindlink!a1318@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (Kent Cavaghan)
Subject: minit933
Message-ID: <1514@mindlink.UUCP>
 
Hello All,
 
I've been asked for help in regards to Minit933,but since I don't use VT-100,I
hope you don't mind a few questions.
 
       1)The problem encountered is dialing out from within the prg itself,so
is minit933 a stand alone terminal or does it have to be called from within a
terminal prg.(such as Flash,Interlink,etc)?
 
       2)If it is a stand alone prg,how is the dialing accomplished(apparently
the docs were a bit on the lean side)?
 
Please Email so we don't waste more bandwidth than necessary.
 
              Thanks in advance for your help,
                      Kent Cavaghan
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Date: 19 Apr 90 10:39:39 GMT
From: mcsun!hp4nl!phigate!ehviea!leo@uunet.uu.net  (Leo de Wit)
Subject: Omega for ST?
Message-ID: <701@ehviea.ine.philips.nl>
 
In article <5765.262c6e5a@uwovax.uwo.ca> 7103_2622@uwovax.uwo.ca (Eric Smith)
 writes:
   [subject: omega game]
|I compiled an older version of it with the gcc. Very few changes were
|necessary. However, it was a bit slow (using 16 bit integers would help --
|perhaps the MS-DOS version of omega would be a better starting point).
|It was also quite buggy; again, the fact that it was an older version
|may have something to do with this. At any rate, I can strongly recommend
|using the gcc for doing any ports of unix software; the library has a lot
|of commonly used unix functions, including a non-multitasking fork().
 
This may be my shortsightedness, but why on earth would one need a
non-multitasking fork() (especially on a machine without VM support, or
is that just the reason why)?
 
Just curious,
               Leo.
 
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Date: 18 Apr 90 23:37:50 GMT
From: tiamat!mjbtn!raider!dlh@uunet.uu.net  (Dana L. Holt)
Subject: RSC-editor?
Message-ID: <205@raider.MFEE.TN.US>
 
In article <34595.262b60db@kontu.utu.fi>, jriitala@kontu.utu.fi writes:
> Hi ya all!
>
> Anybody know about a PD RSC-editor? Preferably one that can make .H-files (c,
> c++) and .DEF & .MOD stuff (modula2) based on the given object names? An icon
> editor would be a nice touch, too.
>                                       - Jari
> --
>
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        I have a resource editor that has menus,forms,free images,strings,
alerts. It makes .H files for 'C' and also makes hearder files for Pascal,
Fortran,and modula2. It's about $30-$40. It's well worth it. The best I have
ever seen. Your can create almost amything you want.. Made by Kuma the name
of it is K-Resource. Check your local dealer.. Well, worth the price..
                                dlh@raider.MFEE.TN.US
 
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Date: 19 Apr 90 13:18:30 GMT
From: cs.dal.ca!silvert@uunet.uu.net  (Bill Silvert)
Subject: TOS 1.4 info
Message-ID: <1990Apr19.131830.8963@cs.dal.ca>
 
In article <2155@atari.UUCP> apratt@atari.UUCP (Allan Pratt) writes:
>
>As of TOS 1.4, the Frename function is safer than before: there is no
>reasonable failure which will lose your original.  The new directory
>entry is created before the old one is removed.
 
Aha, you create another link (ln(1)).  Is it possible to link files (at
least within the same partition) permanently?  That would be great.
 
--
William Silvert, Habitat Ecology Division, Bedford Inst. of Oceanography
P. O. Box 1006, Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, CANADA B2Y 4A2.  Tel. (902)426-1577
UUCP=..!?uunet|watmath?!dalcs!biomel!bill
BITNET=bill%biomel%dalcs@dalac  InterNet=bill%biomel@cs.dal.ca
 
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Date: 19 Apr 90 13:12:41 GMT
From: cs.dal.ca!silvert@uunet.uu.net  (Bill Silvert)
Subject: TOS 1.4 info
Message-ID: <1990Apr19.131241.8628@cs.dal.ca>
 
In article <2152@atari.UUCP> apratt@atari.UUCP (Allan Pratt) writes:
>jfbruno@rodan.acs.syr.edu (John F. Bruno) writes:
 
[material deleted -- a flame against Atari for screwing up when actually
they did exactly the right thing]
 
>By the way, I *live* for this kind of posting.  Polite, considerate...
>just the sort of posting that is sure to result in a speedy,
>informative reply. Yup, this is the kind of news that makes me want to
>get to work early every day.
 
Yep, serves you right for doing things correctly!
 
I suspect that lots of computer users get their jollys making life
rough for the people who develop, manufacture, and sell their toys.
The head of our local user group was proud of the fact that the group
was able to undersell our last local dealer on disks, and he advertised
that other computer stores carried some items at better prices than the
local Atari dealer -- who closed his doors earlier this week.  Gives one
a sense of achievement, doesn't it?
 
Of course, they could be out spreading viruses...
--
William Silvert, Habitat Ecology Division, Bedford Inst. of Oceanography
P. O. Box 1006, Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, CANADA B2Y 4A2.  Tel. (902)426-1577
UUCP=..!?uunet|watmath?!dalcs!biomel!bill
BITNET=bill%biomel%dalcs@dalac  InterNet=bill%biomel@cs.dal.ca
 
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Date: 19 Apr 90 09:31:33 GMT
From: mcsun!ukc!harrier.ukc.ac.uk!gos.ukc.ac.uk!anw1@uunet.uu.net
 (A.N.Walkeden)
Subject: UUDecode
Message-ID: <2932@gos.ukc.ac.uk>
 
In article <1990Apr18.124415.19867@cs.dal.ca> bill@biomel.UUCP writes:
>In article <9004180507.AA14277@fsucs.cs.fsu.edu> boyd@nu.cs.fsu.edu (Mickey
 Boyd) writes:
>>In article <2927@gos.ukc.ac.uk>, anw1@ukc.ac.uk (A.N.Walkeden) writes:
>>>I have found a piece of PD software I would like, and have FTP'd it to
>>>my machine, where I find it is over 700KBytes in size.
>>>Now when I UUDecode this file it produces another output file of similar
>>>magnitude, thus there is not enough room for it on a 3.5" disk.
>
>Why not just decode it on the host machine?  If it doesn't have
>uudecode, then just port uud, for which portable source coude is readily
>available (from me, for example).
 
I am afraid everyone who has replied to the above article has failed to
see the point I was making, whether or not this was because I worded it
badly I do not know.
 
The problem does not lie in the actual FTP'ing of the file to my atari
the uuencoded file does fit on a single 3.5" disk, but if I was to
decode the file on that disk it would create another 700Kbyte file,thus I
would have to get 1.4 MBytes of data on the disk, slight problem there.
 
The suggestion of uudecoding on the host then doing a binary transfer, is
an improvement, however the file is 500Kbytes when decoded and to then
dearchive that file would require a further say 400-500Kbyes available
on the disk, same problem as before but slightly less.
 
I have however managed to solve the problem by creating a very large RAM
disk on a 1040ST then decodibng into the RAMdisk, ie. using it as a
temporary store, 'til I can clear space on the disk.
 
Thanks for all the help all the same
 
                        Adrian
 
--
"I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the
 shoulder of Orion, I watched C beams glitter in the dark near the Tanhauser
 gate. All these, memories will be lost in time; like tears in rain."
"Time to die."
 
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