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INFO-ATARI16 Digest         Fri, 29 Dec 89       Volume 89 : Issue  869
 
Today's Topics:
                        DEGAS pics to bitmaps?
                     Memory upgrades for 520STfm
                                Menus
                  Music Composition Program Summary
                                  TT
                          Unexpandable megas
            WANTED: Atari ST Application Programming book.
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Date: 29 Dec 89 09:15:58 GMT
From: sdcc6!sdcc13!pa2027@ucsd.edu  (Stupendous Man)
Subject: DEGAS pics to bitmaps?
Message-ID: <5838@sdcc6.ucsd.edu>
 
Ok, I'm new to software development on the ST, and I want to do
something fairly basic, but essential.
How do I convert a saved DEGAS pic or block and then convert it to a
bitmap so I can blit it around in C?  Should I use DEGAS or some
other graphics program?  Are there PD programs out there that will
convert a pic to data that I can load into memory?
Currently I'm using MWC.. how does Laser C compare?  What is the
best
C compiler currently for the ST?
 
Anyway, any response via e-mail or posting to any of these questions
would be greatly appreciated!
 
thanks in advance!
 
-Brad McQuaid
 
 
--
Michael Butler - "Water, water everywhere nor any drop to drink"-
S.T. Coleridge and Iron Maiden////   Brad McQuaid - When reality
obscures your dreams, mind becomes a graveyard of memories, that
wander like the lonely breeze... -Fates Warning, No Exit
 
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Date: Fri, 29 Dec 89 16:18 EST
From: Arion <V067MAJP@ubvmsc.cc.buffalo.edu>
Subject: Memory upgrades for 520STfm
 
Can someone suggest a relatively simple upgrade kit to get my ST up to
2.5 meg or 4 meg?
(I got the RF shielding off my ST finally and saw that there were two rows for
ram chips. I guess this means if  I fill (soldier in sockets for, etc.) the
second row with 512Kbit chips, I'll have 2.5 meg, or if I desoldier the 16
256Kbit chips and replace everything with 1Megbit chips I'll get my 4 Meg?
However, I'm not up to that at the moment (especially if any trace cutting is
involved))
Send mail to me, if anyone else is interested I'll mail him (generic 3rd person
singular pronoun) a summary or if enough people are interested, I'll post a
summary to the net.
 
                                          John
                                v067majp@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu
 
 
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Date: 29 Dec 89 12:25:17 GMT
From:
 zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uwm.edu!dogie.macc.wisc.edu!vms.macc.wisc.edu@tut.cis
 .ohio-state.edu  (Neil Gilmore)
Subject: Menus
Message-ID: <2875@dogie.macc.wisc.edu>
 
Does anyone out there know what object type the root of a menu is? Every
silly book I have always starts out "then you run your resource
program". I'm one of them assembly people who hates header files, and
I'd like to include my object trees directly in the program. I've had
success with other object types, but I can't find this one anywhere.
 
On a related note, does anyone have a working example of the function
vro_copy? I can't seem to get it to do anything. My trials will make the
call, and return, but nothing happens on the screen. I'm pretty sure I
have the vdi stuff set up correctly (even the type of copy), but I'm
stumped on this one. Lucky I wrote my own...
 
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Date: 29 Dec 89 15:54:16 GMT
From:
 zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!caesar.cs.montana.edu!ogicse!
 blake!ramsiri@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu  (Enartloc Nhoj)
Subject: Music Composition Program Summary
Message-ID: <5177@blake.acs.washington.edu>
 
In article <8912290801.AA26701@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> ROEDERT@ARIZVM1.BITNET
 (Timothy Roeder) writes:
>To begin, I would like to thank all of those who replied to my original
>By and far, the largest number of replies I received recommended Hybrid
>Arts EZ-Score Plus.  The output on 24-pin printers is good, and the program
>has the ability to play back through the sound chip or MIDI.  Since this
>program can be had for around $100 US, it is probably the one I'm going to
>get.
>
>Another recommendation was the ScoreST Music DTP program in the Jan. 1990
>Timothy Roeder
>
 
 
I bought Ez-Score Plus a couple of years ago.  THe menus and options
look promising.. but the quality of output I found was rather
unacceptable on my Epson 24 pin.  ALso, the version I had gave you
3 staves only..  that version was  very buggy...
i made a list 3 pages long of very disturbing bugs
or "features" of the program.  Supposedly, a newer version was to
support 6 staves...  (This is extremely paltry this day and
age.)  I inquired for several months.. but no updates
seemed to materialize.  The playback feature is spartan... not
a sequencer at all.. which is no problem if you simply want to
hear straightforward playback... but there were strange timing
problems .. pauses.. accelerandos and decelerandos inadvertant...
Unless the program has improved.. you should LOOK at others before
you buy... i GAVE my program to a friend who never uses it.
 
It may in fact be the "best" for $100... my suggestion is
that, if this is so, save your money and get something more
useful.
 
Music processors are like word processors.. you buy six different ones
before you find one you like... and then, it's never perfect.
Keeps the future bright :-)
 
-kevin
ramsiri@blake.acs.washington.edu
 
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Date: 29 Dec 89 06:44:19 GMT
From: ogicse!blake!ramsiri@ucsd.edu  (Enartloc Nhoj)
Subject: TT
Message-ID: <5176@blake.acs.washington.edu>
 
It's been 4 solid months since the
Dusseldorf "announcement" of the TT
on August 25th, 1989.
 
Today is more than 30 days beyond the ATARI policy
of Show and Deliver.  Can anybody in
Europe tell us non-Europeans that
you have indeed purchased a TT from
a dealer?
 
-kevin
ramsiri@blake.acs.washington.edu
 
PLEASE.. NO WARS on this one.. this is an
honest to goodness simple question.
 
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Date: 29 Dec 89 09:36:47 GMT
From: oliveb!amdahl!pacbell!sactoh0!mfolivo@apple.com  (Mark F. Newton)
Subject: Unexpandable megas
Message-ID: <2340@sactoh0.UUCP>
 
In article <8912280804.AA16948@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU>, STJLHI33@WATSON.BITNET
 writes:
> 'Someone from Atari' has responded.  It seems that the kit isn't made by Atari
> but a 3rd party.  Details anyone?
>
A third party, eh? The box had the Atari logos and the board itself
had "Atari" etched into it...
 
 
> > And if you *really* need more capacity, then the TT is for you.
> > (Although you need to go to Europe to get one)
>
> Oh, the old 'buy another computer' upgrade. 8-P Only now we have to go to
> Europe to get it.  I wonder how many Atari owners are that dedicated?
> Fortunately, I don't think that's the way it's going to turn out (at least
> I hope not).
>
 
Oh, but I am not wrong in my opinion that if you really need that
kind of computer, you should get one (TT). I distinctly remember
hearing that attitude about "why should I get an ST, when I
expanded my 800XL to 1Mb..." Similar arguments, in regards to "I
can do about what an ST does..." or something like that.
 
Not to denigrate the 8bit owners, but the ST can do alot more,
faster, better than an 8bit, and I am sure the same holds true that
a TT or ATW can do alot more faster, better than even my Mega 4.
 
I mean, it would sure look nice, but at the moment, I don't need,
say, multitasking. I just run a Mega 4 and 1040 side by side. Not
to mention my 800XL churning away on the side. (All I need is a
network)
 
Even now, the Macintosh has been pretty much eclipsed by the
Macintosh II family, and 286 machines have given way to 386
machines, that are about to be pushed aside by 486 jobbies...
(My opinion, on the surface) If only Atari could get the ball
rolling with the STE and TT here in the US, I feel that they would
replace the current ST line in a couple of years. (or would they,
considering the fierce devotion of American Atari ST owners?)
 
Mata ne da-cha,
Shinobu
 
--
Sakura-mento, CA
 
mmsac!sactoh0!mfolivo   mfolivo@sactoh0
pacbell!sactoh0!mfolivo   (they're worth a try...)
 
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Date: 28 Dec 89 23:20:39 GMT
From: portal!cup.portal.com!buggs@uunet.uu.net  (William Edward JuneJr)
Subject: WANTED: Atari ST Application Programming book.
Message-ID: <25456@cup.portal.com>
 
WANTED:
 
Atari ST Application Programming book.
The publisher, Bantam Books, says it's out of print! Oh, no!!
SOMEBODY must have/know of a place that has a supply of these in stock!
 
!!!!!! HELP !!!!!!
 
Ed June
SysOp FoReMNet node 386 & FidoNet node 1:133/403
 
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