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INFO-ATARI16 Digest         Fri, 11 May 90       Volume 90 : Issue  530
 
Today's Topics:
                            German TOS 1.4
   How do I create metafiles?  Where is Tim Oren's complete series?
                         st hardware for sale
 Still trying to get Omti MFM, ICD interface and Seagate 4038 working
                    Unix Window's Kermit (2 msgs)
                        Unix Windows (2 msgs)
                           Virtex and TFM's
             What is wrong with Terminator's directory??
                                 ZOO
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Date: 10 May 90 15:51:47 GMT
From: nprdc!eiselt@ucsd.edu  (Wolfgang Eiselt)
Subject: German TOS 1.4
Message-ID: <7376@arctic.nprdc.arpa>
 
Hi german netters,
        ich brauche hier in San Diego, CA. dringend die deutsche Version
von TOS 1.4. Kann mir irgendeiner mit einer deutschen Versandadresse
weiterhelfen, wo ich die ROMs mit Einbauanleitung bestellen kann. Da ich
noch ein Bankkonto in Deutschland habe, ist die Bezahlung kein Problem
 
        Wolfgang                        (eiselt@nprdc.arpa)
                                        NPRDC
                                        San Diego, CA. 92152-6800
                                        Tel: 619-553-7603
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Date: 10 May 90 05:42:10 GMT
From:
 helios.ee.lbl.gov!hellgate.utah.edu!mailrus!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!utgpu!
 utzoo!attcan!lsuc!maccs!johns@ucsd.edu  (Conan the Barbarian)
Subject: How do I create metafiles?  Where is Tim Oren's complete series?
Message-ID: <2648FF33.3380@maccs.dcss.mcmaster.ca>
 
        Greetings fellow netlanders.
 
        I have 2 questions tonight:
 
1. I want to know how to create metafiles that could be printed out with
   programs like OUTPRINT.PRG.  I'm a bit at a loss here and I would greatly
   appreciate some help.  Some sample source in Personal Pascal or C
   would do nicely, if available.  Does GDOS have to be loaded in order to
   do this?  Are there bindings for functions like vm_pagesize() etc or
   do I have to make them up myself?  What has to be put into the intin[]
   and ptsin[] arrays?  Are work stations possible on the ST or do I have
   to stay with virtual workstations?  Is that the way it is done?  These are
   some of the questions I have been asking myself.
 
2. Tim Oren wrote a series of articles on GEM programming on the ST.  I saw
   the list on a BBS that has since lost their files and I cannot get at
   the series any longer.  There were around 18-20 articles.  However, I can
   only find the first 11 on the ftp sites that I looked at.  Where are the
   rest of them?  Do that many actually exist or is it just something I'm
   dreaming about?
 
        If there is any interest and if I can put something together that
actually works, I'll post some sample source here.
 
        Thanks for any help.
 
--
John Schmitt
johns@maccs.dcss.mcmaster.ca
...!unet!utai!utgpu!maccs!johns
 
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Date: 10 May 90 12:45:32 GMT
From: fjcp60!winston@uunet.uu.net  (Winston M. Llamas)
Subject: st hardware for sale
Message-ID: <270@fjcp60.GOV>
 
For Sale (cartridges for the ST):
 
  Spectre 128 cartridge (roms included)
  Discovery cartridge (option 0)
 
Both for $250.00
 
Leave email if interested.
 
Winston M. Llamas
 
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Date: 10 May 90 20:40:22 GMT
From:
 shlump.nac.dec.com!engage.enet.dec.com!oldtmr.enet.dec.com!wallace@decuac.dec.c
 om  (Ray Wallace)
Subject: Still trying to get Omti MFM, ICD interface and Seagate 4038 working
Message-ID: <1728@engage.enet.dec.com>
 
In article <1990May6.121900.17507@cs.wayne.edu>, pbh@pandora.cs.wayne.edu
 (Patrick B. Haggood) writes...
>I purchased a 30M hard drive a while ago, and it formats fine, partitions
>fine, but when using ICD's hdutil.prg, the program reports that it cannot
>find a partion that can support autobooting.  I set up all the partitions
Is it the only HD you have connected to your system? If have more than one
HD connected the try disconnecting all of the drives except the one you are
trying to get working. I ran into similiar trouble one time with multiple
drives (actualy multiple controlers/drives), it's been a while so I don't
remember the details but I think it had to do with one drive being formated
with old ICD software and the other (the one I was trying to set as bootable)
formatted with the newer ICD software (V4.xxx).
 
---
Ray Wallace
                (INTERNET,UUCP) wallace@oldtmr.enet.dec.com
                (UUCP)          ...!decwrl!oldtmr.enet!wallace
                (INTERNET)      wallace%oldtmr.enet@decwrl.dec.com
---
 
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Date: 10 May 90 20:04:37 GMT
From:
 swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!dali!attila.cs.montan
 a.edu!icsu8053@ucsd.edu  (Craig Pratt)
Subject: Unix Window's Kermit
Message-ID: <1763@dali>
 
In article <1761@dali> icsu8053@caesar.cs.montana.edu (Craig Pratt) writes:
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>Has anyone gotten the Kermit file transfer to work inside a Unix window?
>It works fine when the uw server is NOT running but Kermit "croaks" (sorry)
>after the uw server is started.
 
Well, I figured this out and, instead of killing the article I figured I
should inform the world about this "totally cool" setup.  To be short, the
trick was to get the new version (4.2) of the Unix Windows server as well.
Result:  I am, right now, downloading and typing this message pseudo-
simultaneously.  I HIGHLY recommend this setup!  Get it.  Use it.  It's
awesome.  I'm sorry if this isn't news to everyone, but it must be to some.
The newest version of Unix Windows allows you too execute a child program
such as a CLI as well.  Unfortunately, downloading does stop when you do this.
The slowdown isn't as bad as I thought when downloading either.
 
Thanks go out to Hans-Martin Mosner, Brad Bosch and Brian Katzung for their
excellent adaptation.
 
Craig
 
--
   / Craig Pratt                       / Montana State University, Bozeman MT/
  / Craig.Pratt@msu3.oscs.montana.edu / " Practically odor-free! "          /
 /
/ "Facts are stupid things." - Ronald Reagan, 1988 Republican Convention  /
 
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Date: 10 May 90 18:40:45 GMT
From:
 swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!dali!icsu8053@ucsd.ed
 u  (Craig Pratt)
Subject: Unix Window's Kermit
Message-ID: <1761@dali>
 
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Has anyone gotten the Kermit file transfer to work inside a Unix window?
It works fine when the uw server is NOT running but Kermit "croaks" (sorry)
after the uw server is started.
 
I issue the Send or Recieve command from C-Kermit on the Unix side and then
the appropriate Kermit command from Unix windows.  Then, nothing happens with
the exception of an occasional timeout message.  Has anyone gotten this to
work?  This Kermit option excites me.  Right now, though, it's pretty boring.
I assume that this is the newest version of Unixwind.  I just got it from
Terminator today.  Please, ANY and ALL help is appreciated!
 
Craig
 
--
   / Craig Pratt                       / Montana State University, Bozeman MT/
  / Craig.Pratt@msu3.oscs.montana.edu / " Practically odor-free! "          /
 /
/ "Facts are stupid things." - Ronald Reagan, 1988 Republican Convention  /
 
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Date: 10 May 90 23:43:19 GMT
From: mg40+@andrew.cmu.edu  (Michael Jeffrey Garland)
Subject: Unix Windows
Message-ID: <saGTmLu00WB3I2Ykgy@andrew.cmu.edu>
 
I've heard a lot about uw, and it sounds really interesting.  However, the only
version I've seen said it only worked in monochrome.  Is there, by any chance,
a version that runs in color too?  I would really appreciate it if I could
find such a thing.
 
       Thanks,
       Michael Garland
       mg40+@andrew.cmu.edu
 
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Date: 11 May 90 04:38:04 GMT
From: mcdchg!laidbak!katzung@rutgers.edu  (Brian Katzung)
Subject: Unix Windows
Message-ID: <1990May11.043804.29849@i88.isc.com>
 
In article <2990@ultb.isc.rit.edu> jdb9608@ultb.isc.rit.edu (J.D. Beutel)
 writes:
|I don't think `uw` is possible without job control.
 
Uw is possible without job control, but it does require pseudo-ttys.
I ported the BSD host version to a System V system that has the
Wollongong TCP/IP package.
 
There are some work-arounds for Wollongong implementation details that
make it somewhat painful to use (a port watcher/reader process which
doubles the input overhead and no XON/XOFF support).  XON/XOFF support
could be approximated with a trade-off between correctness and overhead,
but I have not done this.
 
I am not in a position to distribute code, but if there is interest,
send me mail and I will describe briefly what changes are required.
 
     -- Brian Katzung  katzung@i88.isc.com
 
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Date: 10 May 90 11:09:42 GMT
From: clubok@husc4.harvard.edu  (Ken "The Snake" Clubok)
Subject: Virtex and TFM's
Message-ID: <2886@husc6.harvard.edu>
 
Does anybody know in which directory I need to put the TFM files for Bammi's
Virtex?  Whenever I try to load fonts, it tells me that it can't find them,
even when I include a pathname.  If the default is on F: partition, then I'm
out of luck, since I only have partitions through E:.  Also, I don't have
enough memory to call virtex from a shell, so I can't change the path through
environment variables.  I have no problem with going into the .ttp file and
changing the default pathname with a sector editor, but I haven't had any
luck finding the place to change.  If anybody has any useful suggestions, I
will be eternally grateful.
BTW, Thanks to Bammi for this *incredibly* useful program.  Now that I have
the new showdvi.prg that will work in color, I can really have fun!
 
Ken Clubok
clubok@husc4.bitnet
clubok@husc4.harvard.edu
 
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Date: 10 May 90 14:26:15 GMT
From: hpl-opus!hpnmdla!hpsad!randyh@hplabs.hp.com  (Randy Hosler)
Subject: What is wrong with Terminator's directory??
Message-ID: <750062@hpsad.HP.COM>
 
Yes, I've had this problem.   The read bit is not set for others.  I just
noticed this about a week ago.  My ST was busted for a month prior to that
so I don't know when the change occured for sure.
 
I always checked the dates on the atari/new directory also to see if there
was anything "new" to get.  Kind of a bummer that I can't read it now.
 
Could the people who run terminator fix this?
 
-----
Randy
 
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Date: 11 May 90 06:39:39 GMT
From: mcsun!unido!laura!heike!klute@uunet.uu.net  (Rainer Klute)
Subject: ZOO
Message-ID: <2152@laura.UUCP>
 
In article <1990May11.021357.6418@lth.se>, qralph@dna.lth.se (Ralph
Haglund) writes:
|>Just a simple question. Packing up with subdirectories I use -x//, right.
|>That works, but how do I PACK the stuff with subdirectories in the first
|>place???
 
First, you will use "x//" instead of "-x//". Second, to pack a whole
directory tree into a .ZOO file you have to type "a//". The original Zoo
does not have this but Daan Jitta put it in for the ST version.
 
  Dipl.-Inform. Rainer Klute      klute@heike.informatik.uni-dortmund.de
  Univ. Dortmund, IRB             klute@unido.uucp, klute@unido.bitnet
  Postfach 500500         |)|/    ...uunet!mcvax!unido!klute
D-4600 Dortmund 50        |\|\    Tel.: +49 231 755-4663
 
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