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INFO-ATARI16 Digest         Tue, 10 Oct 89       Volume 89 : Issue 507
 
Today's Topics:
                     Atari ST Emulator for Amiga
                      Avant-Garde's PC_DDRVR.SYS
                              Databases
                      Floppy troubles (1040stf)
                     Info-Atari16 Digest V89 #480
                       official tos 1.4 release
                          PD Word Processors
                                tangle
                               uudecode
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Date: 10 Oct 89 18:15:15 GMT
From: watmath!watcgl!wsflinn@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu  (Scott Flinn)
Subject: Atari ST Emulator for Amiga
 
In article <55.filbo@gorn.santa-cruz.ca.us> filbo@gorn.santa-cruz.ca.us (Bela
 Lubkin) writes:
>In article <1234@sdcc13.ucsd.EDU> pa1329@sdcc13.ucsd.edu writes:
>>(From comp.sys.amiga)
>>In article <12803@s.ms.uky.edu> phoenix@ms.uky.edu (R'ykandar Korra'ti)
 writes:
>>>               It requires a bootable TOS disk to get started - I presume
>>>this includes TOSbench, or whatever they call it. (TOS disks can be purchased
>>>from local Atari dealers, if you've got one.)
>>
>>Atari, what is your comment on this?   I wonder how can TOS be sold
>>on disk to non-Atari owners?
>
>This is certainly no worse than ST or Amiga owners buying Macintosh ROMs for
>Spectre or Amax.  What makes the ST specially inviolate?
 
The difference, as I have been lead to believe it, is that Mac owners
can buy Mac ROMs from Apple dealers.  ST owners cannot buy disk based
TOS from ANYWHERE.  Am I wrong?  Where CAN I buy it?
 
Cheers,
Scott
--
Me:      Scott Flinn                   /  "If it doesn't fit, force it.
Domain:  wsflinn@watcgl.waterloo.edu  /  If it breaks, then it didn't
UUCP:    watmath!watcgl!wsflinn      /  fit anyway."
 
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Date: 10 Oct 89 13:14:49 GMT
From: att!dptg!lzaz!hcj@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (HC Johnson)
Subject: Avant-Garde's PC_DDRVR.SYS
 
In article <126044@sun.Eng.Sun.COM>, kron%aiki@Sun.COM (Kenneth Kron) writes:
> From article <1989Oct8.202742.10601@cs.dal.ca>, by silvert@cs.dal.ca (Bill
 Silvert):
> > Lars-Erik Osterud recently pointed out that you can use
> > Avant-Garde's PC_DDRVR.SYS to read normal ST disks on a PC.
>
> How do you get pc_ddrvr.sys, is this sold as PC software or what ?
 
pc_ddrvr.sys is a TSR program supplied with PC-Ditto to allow ATARI
partitions D,E,F etc to be accessed from MS/DOS running under the
emulater.  It has no other magical properties.
 
Howard C. Johnson
ATT Bell Labs
att!lzaz!hcj
hcj@lzaz.att.com
 
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Date: 10 Oct 89 19:04:06 GMT
From:
 gem.mps.ohio-state.edu!wuarchive!uwm.edu!mrsvr.UUCP!jupiter.uucp!krieg@tut.cis.
ohio-state.edu  (Andrew Krieg)
Subject: Databases
 
Are there any database packages for the ST that allow you to access the
database through C programs (like Btrieve, etc. for the PC's)?  I would like
to use an SQL database if possible.  The only SQL db for the ST that I have
heard of is RegentBase.  Does it provide these C 'hooks' that I need?  Or is
this a lost cause for ST development?
 
 
=========================================================================
=									=
=	The Atari Addict				A. Krieg	=
=									=
=		G.E. Medical Systems - CT - New Berlin, WI		=
= 	   	     USENET: krieg@jupiter.med.ge.com			=
=									=
=========================================================================
 
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Date: 10 Oct 89 16:56:51 GMT
From: att!cbnewsm!wao@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (william.a.oswald)
Subject: Floppy troubles (1040stf)
 
I am having several problems with my (DS internal) floppy drive. It
seems that if I don't access the drive for several minutes it
stops working. For example, if I double click on a folder the
file listing becomes corrupt (the disk does not spin). If I
pop the disk out and replace it, it works fine (unless I don't
access it for awhile). I ran VKILLER 2.2 on my boot disk, no
virus. By the way I have a z-time clock chip installed under
one of the roms (ver. 1.2) with software in the auto folder to drive
it.
Also, when I pop a disk out of the floppy drive the button pops
out as if there is a disk still in it. In order to put in another
disk I have to hold the eject button in until the disk is inserted.
How can I fix this!
Thank in advance
Bill Oswald
 
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Date: Tue, 10 Oct 89 14:07 EDT
From: FRACHEL@umiami.Miami.EDU
Subject: Info-Atari16 Digest V89 #480
 
Hi all,
 
I used to have a 520 st system for about 4 years, then sold the
whole system in order to have money for college.
 
Now i am in college, and I need a computer.
 
I would like input as to what you all think I should do.
 
If the MAC and IBM emulators are good enough I will get a Mega 2 or 4,
but i have been out of it for a few years and dont know
how these programs are.  Any and all information will be
appreciated.
 
Frank Rachel
 
FRACHEL@UMIAMI
 
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Date: 9 Oct 89 16:40:44 GMT
From: att!chinet!mcdchg!mcdphx!hrc!force!covertr@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (Richard
 E. Covert)
Subject: official tos 1.4 release
 
In article <2074@hudson.acc.virginia.edu>, gl8f@astsun8.astro.Virginia.EDU (Greg
 Lindahl) writes:
> In article <460c4f58.14a1f@force.UUCP> covertr@force.UUCP (Richard E. Covert)
 writes:
>
> > Well, my feeling is that Atari has really dropped the ball on the release of
> > TOS 1.4!!
>
> Lots of feeling, no understanding. I tried to send this email, but
> uunet doesn't know where "force.UUCP" is.
 
Well, I can be reached at .../gtephx!covertr. FORCE is a node on our
Apollo network. Just try gtephx!covertr.
 
>
> You suggest that Atari go ahead and produce updated TOS 1.4 ROMS. This is
> probably a bad idea. Can't you just see customer service: "I have this
> problem", "What version of TOS are you running?", "TOS 1.4, I just bought
> it from my dealer", "Which one, new TOS 1.4 or old TOS 1.4???"
 
Greg, the problem is one of timing. By the time Atari got the TOS 1.4 PROMs
out, and notice that they are PROMS not ROMs, bugs had already been identified
and repaired by hackers. Since, the offical TOS ROMs still haven't been
 released,
it is not unreasonable to hope that Atari would fix the known bugs before
 releasing
them. I just hate to see TOS 1.4 start off with a bunch of auto folder patches!!
And there is still no legal way to buy TOS 1.4 in 100 ns EPROMs so that the
Turbo16 can run at full speed. T16 can be setup to access the TOS memory without
wait states if the memory is quick enough. Hence the need for 100 ns EPROMs.
If Atari was selling TOS in ROMs it might be possible to buy them in 100ns
roms. who knows??
 
>
> Or, a user sees TOS14PATCH.ARC on his BBS, and wonders if he's
> supposed to run it or not. It's vastly easier to have all TOS ROMS
> distributed for a long time be the same, and for all users to need the
> same patch program. This is the only philosophy that makes sense for a
> home machine. Atari isn't Sun.
 
Greg, the user already needs an auto folder patch for the TOS 1.4 that is being
sold by Atari. How many more patches will be needed over the next six months??
 
>
> On another topic, Richard flamed Atari for not providing more software
> support to people trying to get the SLM804 working with Mac software.
> it's silly to expect David Small to do it if it would take so much
> time it wouldn't be cost-effective.
>
> Can I get down off my soapbox yet? ;-)
>
>
> ------
> Greg Lindahl
> gl8f@virginia.edu                                             I'm not the NRA.
 
And finally, Greg, I have stopped asking Dave Small for a 300 dpi QuickDraw
driver for the SLM804. As you have just said it appears to be too hard for
Dave Small, or anyone else, to develop. So, whose fault is it?? Atari?? Apple??
GBS?? All I know is that when I bought my Spectre 128 from Dave Small in Sept
1988, Dave said that he would provide a 300 dpi driver for the SLM804 laser
printer. And now over a year later it has proven to be an impossible task.
The best that Dave can do is 144 dpi, which is basically just draft printing
on a 300 dpi laser printer. so, while I am not satisified with the Spectre
printer driver for the SLM804, at least I know that Dave gave it his best
shot!! So, I am NOT flaming GBS. I am just waiting for GBS to release the
Spectre version 2.0 software so that I can use my SLM804 laser printer in
144 dpi mode.
 
 
Richard (gtephx!covertr) Covert
 
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Date: 10 Oct 89 20:19:17 GMT
From:
 gem.mps.ohio-state.edu!uwm.edu!bionet!sdsu!ucselx!coffey@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu
  (pat coffey)
Subject: PD Word Processors
 
In article <1989Oct10.125136.19140@cs.dal.ca> bill@biomel.UUCP writes:
>In article <3968@blake.acs.washington.edu> themod@blake.acs.washington.edu
 (Chris Hinton) writes:
>>
>>  Hello you netters, I need some help.  I need a good PD Word Processor.  I
>>have (gak!) 1st Word, but I hate it with a passion.  I also think spending
>>$100+ for any program is just plain stupid.  Any suggestions?
>
>Why stupid?  Good software takes time to write, and a decent commercial
>product can easily be worth more than $100.
 
I've had my Atari since almost day one (before 1st word was invented) and
have used STwriter.  It has been improved a lot, but is still part of the
public domain.  It is not a wysiwyg, but has a lot of features such
as 2 column printing and mail merge.  I still use it a lot.
--
     _   _        Ms. Pat Coffey
    |_) (_        San Diego State University
    |             coffey@ucselx.sdsu.edu
 
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Date: 10 Oct 89 18:04:34 GMT
From: pwp@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu  (Paul Purdom)
Subject: tangle
 
Has anyone ported tangle to the Atari ST?
 
Tangle is the program that converts Don Knuth's language Web to Pascal.
 
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Date: 10 Oct 89 19:53:59 GMT
From:
 gem.mps.ohio-state.edu!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!uwm.edu!mrsvr.UUCP!jupiter.uucp!
krieg@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu  (Andrew Krieg)
Subject: uudecode
 
What does it mean when uudecode gives the message "short file"?  Obviously
it is an error of some sort, because the files extracted are cut off.  I also
sometimes get an error simply stated "Error 0".  This occurs after a previous
part has failed.  Does uudecode add to a previous file sometimes?  If I try
to get the binary again, will it still fail, or is the error perhaps
generated in the mail transfer?  Any info is appreciated.
 
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