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INFO-ATARI16 Digest         Sun,  8 Apr 90       Volume 90 : Issue  425
 
Today's Topics:
                               Atari AT
                     Gribnif: what does it MEAN?
                  Multisync monitors, STs, and Macs
             My 4 Meg 1040STe (was Re: SIMMs for the STE)
                    Nethack 3 for the ST (2 msgs)
                    Programming events question...
                     Turbo-C: price/availability?
                           UniTerm (2 msgs)
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Date: 8 Apr 90 16:52:04 GMT
From: eru!luth!sunic!mcsun!hp4nl!phigate!ehviea!leo@bloom-beacon.mit.edu  (Leo
 de Wit)
Subject: Atari AT
Message-ID: <531@ehviea.ine.philips.nl>
 
Read in this month's HCC Nieuwsbrief, a Dutch monthly for computer users:
 
According to Jotka Computing in Ede before long (how long 8-) a 80386
emulator for the Atari ST will become available on the Dutch market. It
is a German product, called Delta Modul, that will be delivered
together with Dr. Dos.  There will be two versions, a 1 Mb one and a 2
Mb one, with prices in the range f 2395,- to f 2849,- (Dutch guilders).
Also various supplementary products have been announced, such as RAM
extensions till 8 Mb and graphic cards (of which one was said to handle
16.2 million colors).
 
    Leo.
 
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Date: 8 Apr 90 15:06:43 GMT
From: mcgill-vision!quiche!calvin!depeche@BLOOM-BEACON.MIT.EDU  (Sam Alan EZUST)
Subject: Gribnif: what does it MEAN?
Message-ID: <2825@calvin.cs.mcgill.ca>
 
In article <261E6C25.10489@maccs.dcss.mcmaster.ca> johns@maccs.dcss.mcmaster.ca
 (Conan the Barbarian) writes:
>       You're absolutely right.  My bubugged the girl that works the
>Gribnif booth in '88 about the meaning in Gribnif, and never got an
>answer.  Undaunted, he tried again this year, and still got nowhere.
>Excepth that the girl told him to watch M*A*S*H to find out.  We were
>told that this was classified information, and that only 1 person at 1
>show came up and knew what Gribnif means.  I wonder if it's important.
>
I happen to know that guy [Richard] you are talking about - and I believe it
was the show in Detroit last summer... Gribnif is actually a character in some
fantasy novel, but when Richard told me what it meant, I filed it away in my
head under 'useless knowledge which won't come up again' and promptly
forgot it. A little note of aside: Dan Wilga was at the booth, and asked
Richard what it meant - apparently HE didn't know, and when he found
out, he was so grateful that he gave Richard a free copy of Neodesk!!!
 
--
|S. Alan Ezust                                |  depeche@calvin.cs.mcgill.ca|
|McGill University School of Computer Science |  Montreal, Quebec, Canada   |
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|  Disclaimer: None of the above facts are mine. Neither are the opinions.  |
 
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Date: 08 APR 90 13:19:18 CST
From: Z4648252 <Z4648252%SFAUSTIN.BITNET@ricevm1.rice.edu>
Subject: Multisync monitors, STs, and Macs
Message-ID: <900408.13191761.023282@SFA.CP6>
 
Hello all,
 
    Could a brave and informed soul comment on if a multisync monitor
can also work on a Macintosh (with an appropriate video card, of course)?  If I
get a NEC 3D multisync for my ST, will it also work on a Mac?
    Many thanks!!!
 
Larry Rymal:  |East Texas Atari 68NNNers| <Z4648252@SFAUSTIN.BITNET>
 
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Date: 4 Apr 90 15:32:06 GMT
From:
 elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!rpi!image.soe.clarkson.edu!new
 s@decwrl.dec.com  (AAron,,,)
Subject: My 4 Meg 1040STe (was Re: SIMMs for the STE)
Message-ID: <1990Apr4.153206.22133@sun.soe.clarkson.edu>
 
> With a 90 day warranty who cares?  Just wait it out, and with SIMMS,
> you're *much* less likely to damage your ST than with the various
> kludges that are used to add memory to older STs.  SIMMs should be
> very easy to plug in if you are at all handy.
>
 
Yep, It was quite easy...
   Pop  the 4 8x256K SIMMs
   Push the 4 8x1M   SIMMs
 
BTW, I used 2
      MICRON Technology, Inc "Xceed 2MB Memory Expansion Kits"
                  (for Mac II SE/Plus (Low Profile)
 
They were 100ns...
 
AAron nAAs
opielask@clutx.clarkson.edu  or  naas17@snypotba.bitnet
 
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Date: 7 Apr 90 20:11:25 GMT
From: ogicse!dali!milton!cs.uoregon.edu!news@decwrl.dec.com  (Wade Bell)
Subject: Nethack 3 for the ST
Message-ID: <1990Apr7.201125.25417@cs.uoregon.edu>
 
Does anyone know an FTP or mail-oreder house that has Nethack 3 (pl7)
for the ST?
Thanks.
 
--> Dan Quayle for President! (A stupid man for stupid times)
 
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Date: 8 Apr 90 22:52:56 GMT
From: xanth!xanth.cs.odu.edu!scott@g.ms.uky.edu  (Scott Yelich)
Subject: Nethack 3 for the ST
Message-ID: <SCOTT.90Apr8185256@haroeris.cs.odu.edu>
 
>   Does anyone know an FTP or mail-oreder house that has Nethack 3 (pl7)
>   for the ST?
>   Thanks.
 
ftp terminator.cc.umich.edu
WHAT WOULD WE DO WITHOUT TERMINATOR?!
 
Now, I have played it as far as starting a game... it seems to want all of
one meg and will simple crash otherwise... of course, these are personal
experiences and my system configureation changes daily... etc etc.
 
Good luck!  (it is much better than nh2!)
--
 
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 Scott D. Yelich                                 scott@cs.odu.edu [128.82.8.1]
 After he pushed me off the cliff, he asked me, as I fell, ``Why'd you jump?''
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Date: 6 Apr 90 21:33:03 GMT
From: mips!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!rpi!image.soe.clarkson.edu!news@apple.com
 (AAron,,,)
Subject: Programming events question...
Message-ID: <1990Apr6.213303.696@sun.soe.clarkson.edu>
 
A friend of mine and I are writing a very simple drawing program
with Mark Williams C.
 
Our problems aren't in implementing the drawing tools (well, at least
not yet...) at this point.  The difficulties we are having are because
we want the menu bar on the screen, and available for use while the
user is using the drawing 'tools' on the rest of the screen.
 
So, we are using evnt_multi to detect events...
 
We want an active menu bar, with a blank screen, and be able to detect
menu bar events, as well as detecting EITHER mouse buttons.
We have fumbled our ways though this using the Mark Williams C
example programs on disk and in the book, and gotten these things to
work, but they FREQUENTLY conflict with each other!! For example,
to access the 'drawing tools box' the user clicks the right mouse button,
and it pops up on the screen.  Well, if the mouse is in the menu bar with
a menu pulled down, and you press the right mouse button, the tools box
pops up on the screen.  Or how about this... When drawing below the
menu bar, and you enter it, strange things happen, like messing up the
bar itself, or worse, it looses track of whether the mouse is on or it is
off, losing it completely.
 
Obviously we are doing it wrong...
  How do we set up evnt_multi (or do we even use it?) to detect either
mouse buttons, stop checking for other things when we are in the
menu bar, and continue checking after we decide we didn't want to invoke
the menu bar in the first place?
 
Any insights into our problem would be greatly appreciated!!
 
AAron nAAs
opielask@clutx.clarkson.edu     or     naas17@snypotba.bitnet
(Oh, did I mention that this assignment was due a month ago?)
 
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Date: 6 Apr 90 22:51:20 GMT
From:
 eru!luth!sunic!mcsun!unido!fauern!ira.uka.de!smurf!gopnbg!altger!doitcr!nadia!m
 arauder@BLOOM-BEACON.MIT.EDU  (Stefan Hess)
Subject: Turbo-C: price/availability?
Message-ID: <861@nadia.UUCP>
 
I bought the TC V2.0 at the ceBit fair for 370,- DM, but that was a special
price only for the fair. The professional package is priced around 450,- DM
and the normal package around 250,- DM, which is roughly US$ 270 and US$ 150.
The pro package contains the compiler, source debugger and a macro assembler
plus BGI graphic libraries.
 
Hope this helps,
 
Stefan.
 
--
  _ _    MAR-3H Marauder      Don't leave your dropship without one !
 /\V/\
 8/"\8   "Everybody should have an opinion."  (Carmen K.-S.)
 ~   ~   marauder@nadia.UUCP / ..!uunet!unido!nadia!marauder / ++49-711-252624
 
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Date: 8 Apr 90 18:50:16 GMT
From:
 sdd.hp.com!cs.utexas.edu!usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!rpi!uupsi!sunic!tut!ra!u
 wasa.fi!hv@decwrl.dec.com  (Harri Valkama LAKE)
Subject: UniTerm
Message-ID: <1990Apr8.185016.6112@uwasa.fi>
 
In article <CMM.0.88.639590371.cmm1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu>
 cmm1@CUNIXA.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU (Christopher M Mauritz) writes:
>I noticed that Simon Poole posted the address of the newest version of
>UniTerm.  I FTPed over and took a looksie and the file is COMPRESSed
>and SHARed.  As I don't have SHAR on my system, I can't get at the
>binary.  Could some kind soul either mail me the binary or post it to
>c.b.a.st?
 
Other possibility is that you ftp it from funic.funet.fi where
I've put the same file available as a .zoo file. Address below.
 
--
        ----------------Harri Valkama (hv@uwasa.fi)----------------
University of Vaasa, Finland ftp site (128.214.12.3) PC & Mac directories
        & ftp site Funic.funet.fi (128.214.6.100) Atari ST directory
 
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Date: 9 Apr 90 02:08:41 GMT
From:
 pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!brutus.cs.uiuc.edu!ux1.cso
 .uiuc.edu!cs325ec@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu  (Gregory Lemperle-Kerr)
Subject: UniTerm
Message-ID: <1990Apr9.020841.23290@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
 
        That is TAR'd, I believe, not SHAR'd.  I put the file at terminator,
        I think it is now located in telecomm/.  I got STTAR and uncompress.ttp
        (oops, compress.ttp) from ??.fi. and uncompressed it on the
        Atari side.
 
        -- Greg
 
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