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INFO-ATARI16 Digest         Wed,  9 May 90       Volume 90 : Issue  528
 
Today's Topics:
                           C++ for the ST?
               poolfix3, poolfix4; naming conventions.
                           Professional GEM
                         Re-using a Megafile
                      Signum, gemini and AMCGDOS
                            ST World (UK)
                                 Test
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Date: 8 May 90 08:19:18 GMT
From: usc!snorkelwacker!ira.uka.de!smurf!gopnbg!mcshh!schiers@ucsd.edu  (Carsten
 Schiers)
Subject: C++ for the ST?
Message-ID: <7457@mcshh.hanse.de>
 
R.A.W.McGuigan@newcastle.ac.uk (R.A.W. McGuigan) writes:
>Very simply, is there a C++ compiler available for the ST?
 
Simple answer: Yes. You'll need at least 2.5 MB and g++ from FSF. Price
is nice: nothing. I own V1.35.1, which is slightly unstable, but V1.35.1
should be available anywhere. If you have FTP access, you'll have no
problem to fetch it. If so, I'll try to find an address for you.
 
CU Carsten.
unido!imdm.uke.uni-hamburg.dbp.de!schiers
unido!netmbx!mcshh!schiers
 
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Date: 9 May 90 15:09:09 GMT
From: usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!rpi!uupsi!rodan!jfbruno@ucsd.edu  (John F.
 Bruno)
Subject: poolfix3, poolfix4; naming conventions.
Message-ID: <3236@rodan.acs.syr.edu>
 
In article <1990May9.042912.22032@wam.umd.edu> dmb@wam.umd.edu (David M.
 Baggett) writes:
>grahamt@syma.sussex.ac.uk (Graham Thomas) writes:
>>Claus Brod has made some good points in a very reasonable way.  If his
>>pool fixing program does what he says it does, and doesn't hurt anything
>>else, then I can see no reason why it should not be distributed.
 
[stuff deleted]
 
>The problem was not with the program itself, but with the author's
>attitude.
 
[ stuff deleted]
 
>The original poolfix4 posting was one of the most pompous and obnoxious
>messages I've ever seen in this newsgroup.  There was more of an
>"I'm a better hacker, Nyyaah!" feeling there than an "I'm trying to help
>out" attitude.  If I'd been Allan I would have been annoyed too.
>
>My AUTO folder has poolfix3.prg in it.
>
>Dave Baggett
>dmb@wam.umd.edu
 
I think everyone is missing the major problem with the poolfix4. The choice
of "poolfix4" implies that it is the next version of "poolfix3" and since
poolfix3 came from Atari, people will assume poolfix4 also came from Atari.
I'm sure that some people would be confused by this and go to Alan Pratt for
support/questions/whatever... I don't think it matters how pompous and
obnoxious the original post was.  If the original name was "POOLPTCH" or
something like that, I bet nobody would have complained at all (unless of
course it didn't work).
 
---jb
 
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Date: Wed, 9 May 90  16:49 BST
From: Vision Newspapers <SOCS18%vaxb.york.ac.uk@NSFnet-Relay.AC.UK>
Subject: Professional GEM
 
If you can't access Terminator, Tim Oren's GEM articles are available from
the Lancaster PD server.
 
This is a UNIX machine at Lancaster University, UK and its JANET numerical
address is 000010403000 (UK.AC.LANCS.PD, I think). Although it's a UNIX
machine, it runs a hybrid shell that will accept most popular commands.
The ST stuff is kept in micros/atari, with a full index in micros/atari/index
 
You can pull stuff across to your own site via FTP.
 
Hope this helps,
 
Regards,
Mathew
 
(Mathew Lodge; JANET: SOCS18@uk.ac.york.vaxa)
 
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Date: 7 May 90 20:22:14 GMT
From:
 usc!snorkelwacker!ira.uka.de!smurf!gopnbg!altger!doitcr!salyko!freak@ucsd.edu
 (Alexander Reinelt)
Subject: Re-using a Megafile
Message-ID: <1312@salyko.cube.sub.org>
 
MALCOLM@tower-vax.city-poly.ac.UK writes:
 
 
>3.  30MB isn't much, and the ST238R isn't fast, so at some point in the
>    future I'll probably want to swap it for a bigger/faster unit (or add
>    a second drive).  What will I need to know when choosing which drive
>    to buy?
 
Well, I don't know much about hardware, but I can tell you about this
point. It is possible, and not a bad idea, to put a second drive into
the megafile 30 and on the hostadaptor of it. (Hope you get my
english...)
 
Well, there are lots of people in the atari.ger.fido (Fido Nets Atari
Board in germany) who discussed this problem some time ago. I myself
want to put a new, second drive in my megafile, as soon as i got the
money. I think about 60 MB, 3,5" and RLL.
Well, the hardware in the megafile is in some way ready to accept a
second unit ! I can't tell you exactly, but there shurley many people
out who know...
 
The software is the other prob - AHDI is, as far s I know, not prepared
for a second unit. And it has some bugs besides that point ...
I use CBHD SYS. This is a very nice hard disk driver. It is based on the
AHDI and rerwritten and very improved by a german called CLAUS BROD.
He wrote aa nice and good book about floppies, harddisks etc on the st
and inculded a disk within the book. This driver allows you without any
problems to access a second unit in the megafile 30 or to boot from the
partition you want (up to 12 are possible i think)...
 
Well, overall its a great thing. Claus Brod is unfortunately no more
contactable via usenet, but maybe I could help you a bit...
 
c u, Freak
 
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 :     Freak happens to be Alex Reinelt from Munich/West-Germany     :
 #  contact:  freak@salyko.cube.sub.org  ((Fido-adress is altering)) #
 : 
 ! Life is a full time occupation - why let it be a situation vacant ?
 :...........................................(Rupert Hine/Thinkman)..:
 
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Date: 7 May 90 20:23:33 GMT
From:
 usc!snorkelwacker!ira.uka.de!smurf!gopnbg!altger!doitcr!salyko!freak@ucsd.edu
 (Alexander Reinelt)
Subject: Signum, gemini and AMCGDOS
Message-ID: <1313@salyko.cube.sub.org>
 
As far as I know, you need Signum Version 2.01 to run it with Gemini and
activated AMCGDOS. But I haven't checked it out myself yet...
Otherwise you only can press "shift" while loading amc...
 
c u
Freak
 
 .....................................................................
 :     Freak happens to be Alex Reinelt from Munich/West-Germany     :
 #  contact:  freak@salyko.cube.sub.org  ((Fido-adress is altering)) #
 : 
 ! Life is a full time occupation - why let it be a situation vacant ?
 :...........................................(Rupert Hine/Thinkman)..:
 
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Date: Wed, 9 May 90  16:54 BST
From: Vision Newspapers <SOCS18%vaxb.york.ac.uk@NSFnet-Relay.AC.UK>
Subject: ST World (UK)
 
If you're not interested in UK computer magazines, and ST World in
particular, then press n now.
 
 
 
Regular readers of comp.sys.atari.st may recall that ST World (UK) and
Europress (ST User) recently merged to form Interactive Publishing, and I
suggested that it wouldn't be long before things changed...
 
Today I received a letter from Interactive publishing, together with the
Programmer's Clinic that I submitted at the end of last month. The letter
says that:
 
        "Both ST World and Atari ST User are now produced by the same
editorial team.. ..the magazines are to be relaunched with a brand new
look.
 
        "One of the changes being made... ...is the transfer of your
Programmer's Clinic feature from the pages of ST World onto the Cover Disk
of Atari ST User. The Cover Disk will contain its own magazine..."
 
I'm not very happy with the way they've cut and changed the last clinic to
fit on the cover disk. I can understand the desire for a smaller clinic, but
it's just the way they've changed the article, and the fact that they didn't
consult me.
 
ST World will now be quarterly, and "more of a buyers guide". I don't know
what will happen to subscribers to ST World, given that they've now got a
subscription to a totally different magazine.
 
Regards,
 
Mathew Lodge
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Date: 7 May 90 19:22:04 GMT
From:
 usc!snorkelwacker!ira.uka.de!smurf!gopnbg!tmpmbx!einoed!utopia!neon!woju@ucsd.e
 du  (Wolfgang Jung)
Subject: Test
Message-ID: <1069@neon.UUCP>
 
maranion@motcid.UUCP (Apolonio Maranion) writes:
 
>Test...
 
YOUR test was received at NEON......
 
 
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