INFO-ATARI16 Digest         Thu,  9 Nov 89       Volume 89 : Issue 625
 
Today's Topics:
                  Amiga/ST WordPerfect retraction...
                 Mega with TOS 1.4 crashes! (2 msgs)
                   Memory upgrades, HDs, CPU cases
                   questions, questions, questions
                         TCP/IP and Atari ST
   Trying to read an Atari St Gem-Dos disk on a Mac SE using FD/HD
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Date: 09 NOV 89 10:38:07 CST
From: Z4648252 <Z4648252%SFAUSTIN.BITNET@ricevm1.rice.edu>
Subject: Amiga/ST WordPerfect retraction...
 
    I earlier wasted some net space regarding the Amiga and ST versions
of WordPerfect in which I said that the Amiga version did not support
pull down menus and accessories.
    My source of information for the Amiga version was from an Amigoid
who, I'd guess (a no no for such discussions), probably does not like
WordPerfect for the Amiga, and probably doesn't like it for any other
system, for that matter.  Anyway, the Amiga version has pull down
menus and key equivalent commands, just like the Mac and ST.
    Regarding accessories for the Mac and ST on WordPerfect as compared
to the multi-tasking environment for the Amiga and to a lesser extent,
the Mac via Multi-Finder.....  Accessories may or may not be
multi-tasking, depending upon their function.  They may freeze the host
program from running or may not freeze it.  This applies for both the
Mac and the ST.
    Of course the Amiga system can run another program, such as a
spreadsheet, while in WordPerfect, but this is not the same as
the 'handy' collection of accessories located in one convenient
area of the menu bar.  Of course we STers would love to be able to
run the spreadsheet at the same time as WordPerfect without either
program freezing, but that just is not the TOS way, no matter how
we massage everything via Revolver or the other switchers.
    Anyway, before more misconceptions come from this end, WordPerfect
for any system, including the ST and the Amiga, is an excellent
product from an excellent company.  Join the Revolution...if you have
WordPerfect, support it!  WordPerfect will certainly support you.
 
Larry Rymal:  |East Texas Atari 68NNNers| <Z4648252@SFAUSTIN.BITNET>
 
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Date: 9 Nov 89 15:02:44 GMT
From:
 mailrus!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!utgpu!watmath!watdragon!tiger!achowe@tut.cis.oh
io-state.edu  (anthony howe)
Subject: Mega with TOS 1.4 crashes!
 
[...]
>Messages from James Allen (of FAST Technologies) on Genie have
>recommended replacing 74ls373 chips with 74as373 chips, and if
>you still have problems, start swapping MMU chips (especially if
>you have one labeled "imp").
>
>dgc
 
Are the MMU chips generic and commerically available or are they
Atari Custom Brand?
 
- ant
 
 
  achowe@tiger.waterloo.edu     | "It is hard to make the world go away
   _     -|-|_   _              |  when it has decided to notice you."
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Date: 9 Nov 89 14:58:34 GMT
From:
 mailrus!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!utgpu!watmath!watdragon!tiger!achowe@tut.cis.oh
io-state.edu  (anthony howe)
Subject: Mega with TOS 1.4 crashes!
 
[...]
>The solution appears to be to remove to 'weak' 74LS373 chips and replacing
>them with stronger 74AS373 chips.  My machine will probably go for a trip
>to have this work done (in addition to a RAM upgrade) I'll let you know
>what happens.
>Peter Szymonik
 
Does anyone know how many of these chips are on the machine and what
their location names are?
 
- ant
 
 
 
  achowe@tiger.waterloo.edu     | "It is hard to make the world go away
   _     -|-|_   _              |  when it has decided to notice you."
  (_\ |\| | | | (_) |\| \/      |  - Spock's World
                     ___/       |                        disclaimer...
 
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Date: Thu,  9 Nov 89  11:45:43 EDT
From: BAILEYS%FSU.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU
Subject: Memory upgrades, HDs, CPU cases
 
I have seen several requests for information about memory upgrades, I
thought I would share this with y'all.  I received some neato junkmail
about a month ago from an outfit in Texas called Tech Specialties.  As
far as I can tell, they are an ST only group, and they print a damn nice
catalog.  Offered within are:
 
        1.  Various memory upgrades, seperated by different versions of
            ST models.
        2.  Clocks.
        3.  HD kits, in tower, monitor stand, and desktop style cases.
        4.  CPU cases, in various formats.
        5.  Misc. stuff, including a drop in upgrade for the Megafile HDs,
            SCSI adapter, floppys, and extended Keyboard cables of various
            lengths.
 
 In refference to number 4, these guys are offering an upgrade to 1040's and
520's in which you can get the motherboard and drive put into a METAL case,
similar in size to the Mega's (with more room for expansion), and put the
keyboard into another case, and connect the two, thus having a sexy two
piece computer (an alternative to getting a Mega, if you are so inclined).
The keyboard case is roughly the same size as a Mega's, and uses the
original keyboard from the 1040/520.  Pretty neat!
 
Another thing I liked was the info printed within the catalog.  They did a
good job explaining why they designed there stuff the way they did, and I
learned quite a bit about both memory boards and HD's from it.  There
(whoops)  Their address is:
 
      Tech Specialties
      909 Crosstimbers Street
      Houston, TX  77022
      Tel: (713) 691-4527/8  Fax:  (713) 691-7009
 
My catalog is dated 02-13-89, hope these guys are still around.  I heartiy
recommend getting this catalog, just the info it contains is worth a stamp.
 
 
 
Bob Marley
 
Disclaimer:  I am in no way connected with Tech Specialties.  I haven't
             even bought anything from them, but would damn sure like to!
 
 
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Date: 8 Nov 89 19:26:54 GMT
From: rochester!rit!ultb!clf3678@pt.cs.cmu.edu  (C.L. Freemesser)
Subject: questions, questions, questions
 
In article <1723@quiche.cs.mcgill.ca> depeche@quiche.cs.mcgill.ca (Sam Alan
 EZUST) writes:
>
>In response to the fellow who was interested in terminal programs,
>I use a program called ST-TERM, written by Matthew R. Singer.
>The version I have is 3.7b. I am not sure if it is the most recent,
>but it  is not very old.
>
>St-term used to be commercial, and I bought a copy then, but since has
>gone public domain, so anyone can take it. It supports an excellent
>phone dialer (you can dial numbers in sequence until it gets through to
>one of them) , keeps track of passwords and user numbers, baud rates,
>etc.
>It also supports 10 transfer protocols including SEALINK and ZMODEM.
>terminal emulation: vt100 and vt52 ONLY
 
I was not aware that ST TERM had been released into the Public Domain.
As a FoReM ST SysOp, I do know that ST TERM comes ONLY on the FoReM
disk.  It is intended to be run from inside of FoReM by the SysOp.
 
Last I heard, it was NOT Public Domain, but was not commercial either.
I'll check with the other FoReM SysOps I know and see what they say.
 
 
 
Chris Freemesser, Rochester Institute of Technology :BITNET:%clf3678@RITVAX
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Date: 7 Nov 89 00:58:00 GMT
From:
 cs.utexas.edu!wuarchive!texbell!attctc!tlsi!p0.f3107.n124.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Don.We
eks@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu  (Don Weeks)
Subject: TCP/IP and Atari ST
 
Is there any chance any of you would know of a TCP/IP program with
Telnet and FTP for the ST. I would prefer that it communicate out the
serial port to a modem using SLIP.
                             Thanks in advance.
                                 Don Weeks
 
 --- Ned 1.00
 
 
 
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Date: 7 Nov 89 00:48:00 GMT
From:
 cs.utexas.edu!usc!brutus.cs.uiuc.edu!wuarchive!texbell!attctc!tlsi!p0.f3107.n12
4.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Don.Weeks@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu  (Don Weeks)
Subject: Trying to read an Atari St Gem-Dos disk on a Mac SE using FD/HD
 
Peter,
  I do this all the time. SE/30->Atari and back. I do have to preformat
  the disks in DOS format before hand. In this way both the MAC and ST
  can read/write the disks. I think that there might be a couple of
  public domain programs that will format the Atari disks with the DOS
  directory structure.
                            Hope this helps.
                                   Don Weeks
 
 
 --- Ned 1.00 s
 
 
 
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