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INFO-ATARI16 Digest         Tue, 10 Apr 90       Volume 90 : Issue  431
 
Today's Topics:
                      Accelerator Board, Where?
                      Amiga/Atari help (2 msgs)
                  GEMINI works on TOS 1.0 (so far).
                   HiSoft Basic Supexec problem...
                               KERMIT!?
                          Molecular graphics
               More packages running under PC-DITTO II
                         Nethack 3 for the ST
           Question about OPUS (by Doug Harrison) and GDOS
                               ST list
                   ST penpals list (Third posting)
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Date: 8 Apr 90 21:32:05 GMT
From: unisoft!bdt!bbs@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU
Subject: Accelerator Board, Where?
Message-ID: <2072@bdt.UUCP>
 
About the status of when a smaller version of PC Ditto II will ship:
 
Probably several months from now, unless they bring back the old version of PC
Ditto II (which was shown at the last WOA Show, and was as big as the 68000
chip), which could do a Norton SI of 3.0...
 
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Date: 10 Apr 90 02:09:12 GMT
From: cs.utexas.edu!asuvax!mcdphx!dover!digital!chen@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu
 (Jinfu Chen)
Subject: Amiga/Atari help
Message-ID: <49b5c9b8.12c9a@digital.sps.mot.com>
 
Can't help to add my two cents. I don't know if anyone else notices, almost in
 any
popular PC magazines, such as Byte, InfoWorld, etc, every once while you will
 see
a letter from an Amiga owner loudly protested a previous article, saying the
 article
forgot to mention about his Amiga already can do so-and-so. It seems these
 people
always feel insecure and need others attention.
 
Now can we just go back each's own newsgroup?
--
Jinfu Chen                  (602)898-5338      |       Disclaimer:
Motorola, Inc.  Logic IC Div., Mesa, AZ        |
 ...?somewhere?!uunet!dover!digital!chen       | My employer doesn't pay
chen@digital.sps.mot.com                       | me to express opinions.
 
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Date: 8 Apr 90 19:38:35 GMT
From: paperboy!snorkelwacker!ira.uka.de!smurf!gopnbg!altger!stasys!fkk@think.com
  (Frank Kaefer)
Subject: Amiga/Atari help
Message-ID: <954@stasys.sta.sub.org>
 
erwinh@solist.htsa.aha.nl (Chaos Conquerer) writes:
 
> I can imagine that you think the Commodore Amiga is much better than the Atari
  ST. Fine with me, maybe you are right (could be). But please stay in
 comp.sys.amiga.
(...)
> But enough of this slagging. The only point I try to make is the following :
> If you are an Amiga owner, an Macintosh owner, any computer whatsoever owner,
> please stay in your own newsgroup, or tell the story from both sides (not a
 simple I dunno!!). If you don't know than don't try to blacken the other
 computer.
 
Well, I must say, I _completely_ agree ! Couldn't have said it better.
 
BTW: Do you all know what nice machine you get, if you install OS-9/68k
     on your ST... worth a try.
 
Cheers,
Frank
---
+--------------------------------+ Darkness all around us
| Frank Kaefer | fkk@stasys.UUCP | We don't close our eyes
|   (Compuserve: 72427,2101)     | No one's gonna ground us
|          (BIX: fkaefer)        | We were born to fly
|     Starnberg, West Germany    | Comin' at us no stopping
+--------------------------------+ Born to amplify    [Carry On - Manowar]
 
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Date: 10 Apr 90 09:39:13 GMT
From:
 snorkelwacker!usc!brutus.cs.uiuc.edu!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!cs325ec@
 tut.cis.ohio-state.edu
Subject: GEMINI works on TOS 1.0 (so far).
Message-ID: <16000047@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
 
        Don't know if you guys know this yet...
 
        My TOS 1.4 is in the mail, so I decided to get Gemini 1.1 and test
        it out.  Gemini.prg won't run, but mupfel and venus work independently,
        so... if you put all the venus and mupfel files into one directory...
        (I put them in C:\Gemini), and you set mupfel.mup to run venus.prg,
        you gen get a working version of the desktop.  I haven't noticed any
        bugs yet (about 4 hours of fooling around) except for the same thing
        that happens in NeoDesk to WERCS... I assume it has to do with the
        autoboot.prg (which runs a GEM app).  I've tried the one that uses
        a .INF in the root directory and one which saves the filename in
        itself (mkboot?), and they both cause WERCS to crash.  If I take it
        out, I can run WERCS... any ideas?  (Yeah, wait for TOS 1.4).
 
        P.S. Are FATSPEED and PINHEAD incompatible when run in the opposite
                order? (i.e. PINHEAD then FATSPEED)
 
        -- Greg
 
 
 
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Date: 10 Apr 90 09:39:00 GMT
From: usc!brutus.cs.uiuc.edu!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!cs325ec@ucsd.edu
Subject: HiSoft Basic Supexec problem...
Message-ID: <16000046@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
 
        I noticed something...
 
                from turbo C:
                        supexec(0xfc00a6L)
 
        performs a reboot of the disk (TOS 1.0) without changing the
        current sync rate (50/60Hz)... but
 
 
                from HiSoft Basic:
                        Supexec(&hfc00a6)
 
        returns 4 bombs (Illegal instruction)
        as does:
                        x&=FNSuper&(0)
                        call loc &hfc00a6
 
        Can someone who knows HiSoft Basic explain why?  I have a friend who            has
 HiSoft basic, but no C compiler, I wrote the first in C, but
        the translation into HiSoft produces unexpected results...
 
 
        -- Greg
 
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Date: 7 Apr 90 16:58:24 GMT
From:
 snorkelwacker!ira.uka.de!smurf!gopnbg!tmpmbx!zelator!techno@tut.cis.ohio-state.
 edu  (Frank Dahncke)
Subject: KERMIT!?
Message-ID: <428@zelator.UUCP>
 
mwjester@wsuiar.uucp (Max Jester) writes:
 
>BTW, I haven't tried Uniterm on a 520 - can someone verify that it works
>with that HW setup?
 
 It sure does on mine !
 
                   Frank
 
--
techno@zelator.UUCP
 
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Date: 8 Apr 90 21:29:23 GMT
From: unisoft!bdt!bbs@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU
Subject: Molecular graphics
Message-ID: <2071@bdt.UUCP>
 
About Genesis:
 
Could you describe some of the things you can do with Genesis for the ST, and
tell us about how  you came up with it?
 
Also, what is its status currently?
 
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Date: 10 Apr 90 03:07:47 GMT
From:
 cs.utexas.edu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!utgpu!romwa@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu
 (Royal Ontario Museum)
Subject: More packages running under PC-DITTO II
Message-ID: <1990Apr10.030747.12668@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca>
 
Tonight I ran WordPerfect 5.1 and Quattro Pro under PC-DITTO II
without any major glitches.  Some slight video discrepencies occurred
in the WP install program - it looked like the background scan lines
where shifted up by one.  I got PRINTER.TST to output on my
Roland-1012 fine including tables, equations, and graphics ... how I
wish that WP hadn't abandoned the Atari market.
 
Cheers!
 
Pavneet Arora
...!utgpu!rom!pavneet
 
         or
 
rom!pavneet@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca
 
Royal Ontario Museum
100 Queen's Park
Toronto, Ontario
M5S 2C6
(416) 586-5626
 
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Date: 10 Apr 90 02:17:23 GMT
From: portal!cup.portal.com!buggs@apple.com  (William Edward JuneJr)
Subject: Nethack 3 for the ST
Message-ID: <28745@cup.portal.com>
 
>WHAT WOULD WE DO WITHOUT TERMINATOR?!
 
Probably do without like me *8~(
I don't have ftp access. I think this site don't have the capabilities.
Does The Well allow one to ftp?
 
Ed <non?ftp> June
Fido node 1:133/403
 
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Date: Tue, 10 Apr 90 08:29:43 CET
From: "A. Lotz" <LOTZ%DMRHRZ11.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: Question about OPUS (by Doug Harrison) and GDOS
 
Hello Doug, do you read this?
 
I got a copy of the spreadsheet and charting program OPUS by Doug
Harrison via listserv@uoguelph. After reading the docs i found out,
that there are some programs missing (e.g. the Assigner.prg, which helps
to install GDOS.
Who is working with this program and can help us, perhaps send a complete
version of OPUS?
I am really interested in this program and I'd like to get registered,
but first I want to try it.
 
Greetings     Andreas
 
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Date: Tue, 10 Apr 90 11:03:03
From: "Simon Chappell" <S61304%PRIME-A.POLY-SOUTH-WEST.AC.UK@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
Subject: ST list
 
To those who have subscribed to my list of ST users.
 
I have sent out a couple of copies of this list and would like to know if'
anyone has not yet received a copy. So if you are list-less send me some
Email with your full Email address from the UK and I will try and get it to you!
 
Thank you for listening ....
 
Simon.
 
| Simon Chappell
| BSc(Hons) Computing and Informatics (final year)
| Polytechnic South West (Plymouth)
|
| JANET      S61304@uk.ac.psw.pa     BITNET   S61304@pa.psw.ac.uk
| INTERNET   S61304%uk.ac.psw.pa@nsfnet-relay.ac.uk
 
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Date: Tue, 10 Apr 90 11:04:01
From: "Simon Chappell" <S61304%PRIME-A.POLY-SOUTH-WEST.AC.UK@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
Subject: ST penpals list (Third posting)
 
To *ALL* Atari ST owners worldwide!
 
Are you interested in becoming involved in a snail mail list of ST
users? I know that most of you will be like me and quite happy using
the Email facilities at your site, but spare a thought for us final
year students who will soon be losing all access to such facilities if
the company we join has not got network links!! (Arrgghh, too horrid to
consider!). So to get around this I was wondering if any of you would
like to help me get a list together of interested parties who could then
keep in touch and prevent themselves losing touch with the ST community
at large (this would be especially easy if someone who still had net
access could summarise current topics or forward news and advice!)
 
I'm not thinking of anything major league for the entries on the list,
just sort of name, address, interests and optionally a few lines about
yourself.
 
eg     Simon Chappell.
       s61304@uk.ac.psw.pa (goes away after June)
       51 Amherst Road, Penny-Come-Quick, Plymouth, Devon, PL3 4HJ. UK.
       C, operating systems (UNIX, VMS) & relational databases.
 
This would be roughly what my record would read, so if you are interested
compose something for yourself along the above lines (you can have 5 lines
of text about your self if you want! :-) and send it to me either by Email
(until June) or at the above address (anytime). I am working now on a list
for the UK and when both lists are complete I will Email a copy to everyone
that wants one.
 
I hope that this generates a reasonable level of interest, so don't be shy!
Contact me sooner rather than leter and lets all keep in touch! :-)
 
Regards,
 
Simon
 
| Simon Chappell
| BSc(Hons) Computing and Informatics (final year)
| Polytechnic South West (Plymouth)
|
| JANET      S61304@uk.ac.psw.pa     BITNET   S61304@pa.psw.ac.uk
| INTERNET   S61304%uk.ac.psw.pa@nsfnet-relay.ac.uk
 
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