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INFO-ATARI16 Digest         Thu,  7 Dec 89       Volume 89 : Issue 769
 
Today's Topics:
                       ATARI sales .. going up?
                      Atracting new Club members
                              C question
                     INFO-ATARI16 Digest V89 #742
            Let's bash something else now (not me, though)
                         Ordering Information
         Seagate 296N with SH204 Host Adapter. Does it work ?
                            Shareware MAC
                       SYQUEST REMOVABLE DRIVES
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Date: 7 Dec 89 15:29:07 GMT
From:
 zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!samsung!cs.utexas.edu!asuvax!hrc!force!covertr@tut.ci
 s.ohio-state.edu  (Richard E. Covert)
Subject: ATARI sales .. going up?
Message-ID: <4748f7bc.14a1f@force.UUCP>
 
In article <8912061600.AA02491@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU>, EESD11O@CALSTATE.BITNET (Ed
 Krimen) writes:
> > apparently the ad campaign is working.
>
> What ad campaign?  The only ads I know about are the Portfolio ads in
> magazines and newspapers and the great Lynx ads in the New York area.  I
> know a few dealers are taking advantage of Atari's co-op advertising,
> but I've only heard about them in Texas and, I think, North Carolina.
 
there aren't any ads in Phoenix either. None in the Sunday Phoenix
Business section. In fact, Computer Works runs a small ad, by themseleves,
but it mentions only the Commodore Amiga and not the Atari ST. So, unless
you knew that CW Sells Atari stuff, you wouldn't even stop by their store.
 
Has *ANYONE* out there in NEtland SEEN a Real Live AD for the ST, either
on TV or in print?
 
Just curious.
 
 
--
 Richard E. Covert (covertr@gtephx)
  (602) - 581-4652
|  AG Communications Systems, Phoenix AZ   |
 UUCP: ?ncar!noao!asuvax | uunet!zardoz!hrc | att?!gtephx!covertr
 
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Date: 7 Dec 89 15:44:11 GMT
From:
 zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!samsung!cs.utexas.edu!asuvax!hrc!force!covertr@tut.ci
 s.ohio-state.edu  (Richard E. Covert)
Subject: Atracting new Club members
Message-ID: <47490535.14a1f@force.UUCP>
 
In article <19367@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu>, SHAWL@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:
> The Lawrence Atari Computer Club (Lawrence, Kansas) meets in the
> public library.  I would recommend trying that since it is
> centrally located, and FREE!!
>
> Steve Shawl
> bitnet:  Shawl@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
 
I left a message on our local Club BBS about moving to a library
and the only response I got back so far (only 2 days) is that maybe
we would be too noisy for a LIbrary. We had a GREAT demo of MIDI
equipment by ROLAND CORP in our November meeting. Roland brought
out a Sales Manager and a Local Sales Rep who were verygood.
 
Anyway, the comment was made that our MIDI demo would have been too
loud. But I said that we should check out the conference room before
making such a statement. Also, by meeting in the Library, we
could have publicized the MIDI Demo thru the inter-library mags
and maybe had some non-members attend.
 
So, I still think that meeting in a library will be a big boast.
 
 
--
 Richard E. Covert (covertr@gtephx)
  (602) - 581-4652
|  AG Communications Systems, Phoenix AZ   |
 UUCP: ?ncar!noao!asuvax | uunet!zardoz!hrc | att?!gtephx!covertr
 
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Date: 7 Dec 89 15:33:54 GMT
From: sun-barr!newstop!texsun!pollux!attctc!chasm@apple.com  (Charles Marslett)
Subject: C question
Message-ID: <10516@attctc.Dallas.TX.US>
 
In article <875@lzaz.ATT.COM>, hcj@lzaz.ATT.COM (HC Johnson) writes:
> In article <8912050802.AA12717@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU>,
 S61304@PRIME-A.POLY-SOUTH-WEST.AC.UK (Rat) writes:
> > (From "The Masked Rat Fink"   "Computing and Informatics Yr4")
> >
> > Question.
> >
> > (This is probably a really silly one to any C wizards, but I'm only a BASIC
> > wizard!)
> >
> > Why wont Sozobon, Lattice or any other C compiler I've tried compile the
> > following, from K&R?
> >
> > main()
> >      $
> >      char fred[] = "Some string constant";
> >      <rest of routine>
> >
> >
> > This has been confusing me for a while, as K&R (surely correct!) would
> > seem to indicate that this is indeed permissible!
>
> NO NO NO
 
Wrong, YES, YES, YES (and the compilers are wrong!)
 
> you can have char *fred[] = "hello";
 
This is not legal, a correct declaration would be:
 
char *fred[] = ?"hello", "this", "is", "Tuesday"?;
 
an array of pointers to strings.
 
> or
> char fred[] = ?'h','e','l','l','o','\0'?;
 
This is legal, and should be identical to
 
char fred[] = ?"hello"?;
 
or
 
char fred[] = "hello";
 
> but not
> char fred[] = "hello";
 
I have hundreds of examples of this code (properly compiling everywhere).
 
> char *fred[] is an array of pointers, the first points to the string "hello"
 
Here braces should be required, though.
 
> char fred[] is an array of chars, 6 in my example.
>
> Howard C. Johnson
 
K&R states that the braces are not required if a string constant is used
for initialization, otherwise, they are (Don't have my copy handy, but I'll
look up page and line if anyone is really interested).
 
Charles Marslett
chasm@attctc.dallas.tx.us
 
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Date: Thu, 7 Dec 89 11:16 CST
From: RAI'S EVIL BOY FRIEND <BD6%MKVAX1.DECNET@MSUS1.BITNET>
Subject: INFO-ATARI16 Digest V89 #742
 
Questions ???
     I wanted to know if it is possible to get a hard disk interface for
a segate 40 meg MFD drive. If so, how much and where.  And Would I have any
problems with it working with my atari ???
     I was also wondering if anyone was planing on getting rid of a HD.  Like
someone want a new bigger faster toy for chiristmas, but need to sell the old
one first.  Cause I am looking to add a HD to my atari ???? (Cheep ?)
     I also wanted to know about, and where to get, the Apple ][e emulator. ??
(Note: I have limited ftp access, this is hopefully going to change Friday ?)
     And their was something about TCP/IP, can I get a copy for the atari.
     What about that eprom TOS, is it avable ? Can someone send me more info on
it ????
     More quesions, what about good chip prices.  (I think they should have a
run up - down on the bottom of all computers screens so I can get an acurte and
current quote on chip prices )
     Does someone have a list of all archive sites ??
     Lastly, I would like info on becomming an registered atari programmer, is
their such a thing ?
 
 
     Sorry for all the questions at once but I sort of let them get backed up
and the just finaly come out.
 
          Thanks
 
     My address is : (I think this should work, things here are differnt)
          bd6%mkvax1@msus1.bitnet
     Thanks again
 
 
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Date: 7 Dec 89 14:57:24 GMT
From: helios.ee.lbl.gov!ncis.tis.llnl.gov!blackbird!news@ucsd.edu  (News System
 Account)
Subject: Let's bash something else now (not me, though)
Message-ID: <1441@blackbird.afit.af.mil>
 
Let's lighten up on Rich Covert.  It seems we seem to spend a lot of BW on
bashing him.  I'm sure he has gotten whatever messages we have tried to send.
And even if you still think he deserves it, it's getting old.
 
So, let's pick another target ... let's see we've done Atari, Rich, an
occasional Amiga user, IBM (let's keep up this one up), Ken B. (poor taste
on this one; bitting the hand that feeds you and all that, you know),
can't do Commies right now ... gee, I'm dry right now.
 
Hey!  Why don't we do something constructive.
 
Naaaaah!
 
:-)
 
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 Bill Hodges                    |  Me?  People who speak for the Air Force get
 bhodges@blackbird.afit.af.mil  |  paid a lot more than I do! I just work here.
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Date: Thu, 7 Dec 89 12:50 EST
From: FRACHEL@umiami.Miami.EDU
Subject: Ordering Information
 
Can someone please give me ordering information for the Spectre GCR and
PC-Ditto II
 
Such as phone numbers or addresses to call to order them.
 
Thanks.
 
Frank Rachel
Bitnet:Frachel@Umiami
 
 
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Date: Thu, 7 Dec 89 07:45:23 -0800
From: heiden@kbomfg.enet.dec.com (Matthias Heiden, Advanced System Process
 Development  07-Dec-1989 1642)
Subject: Seagate 296N with SH204 Host Adapter. Does it work ?
Message-ID: <8912071545.AA01645@decwrl.dec.com>
 
        Sorry if this has been answered before but ...
        Did somebody succeed in getting the  famous Seagate 296N drive
        to work with the SH204 host adapter?
        What was the transfer rate and was it possible to boot from the
        harddisk? ROM Revision # ? Driver software (ICD, Supra) ?
        Thanks for answers of any sort.                Matthias Heiden
 
 
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Date: 7 Dec 89 15:17:50 GMT
From: cs.utexas.edu!asuvax!hrc!force!covertr@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu  (Richard E.
 Covert)
Subject: Shareware MAC
Message-ID: <4748eda1.14a1f@force.UUCP>
 
In article <4476@druwy.ATT.COM>, dlm@druwy.ATT.COM (Dan Moore) writes:
>
>       No company has decided that the time and expense (at least one
> year, at least 10 or 20 programmers, plus lawyers, and Apple will
> sue when you get done) is worth the expected return.
>
>
>
>                               Dan Moore
>                               AT&T Bell Labs
>                               Denver
>                               dlm@druwy.ATT.COM
 
Dan, I thought that I read about a company that wrote a Mac Toolbox clone
for the IBM PC. supposedly, any C code that strictly adhered to the Mac
Toolbox rules could be recompiled on an IBM PC. And with suitable PC
hardware (color monitor, mouse, or whatever), the application program
would execute identically on the PC as on the Mac.
 
Now, if the ENTIRE PC market isn't big enough to warrant such a mac Toolbox
clone, than maybe the USA Atari ST/TT market is! :-) :-) :-)
 
Anyway, I read about this about a year ago, but haven't heard any more.
So, either the product didn't exist or Apple simply bought the company.
 
Someone could make a good profit by simply STARTING a Mac Toolbox clone,
and than selling out to Apple Corp!! :-) ? :-(
 
 
 
--
 Richard E. Covert (covertr@gtephx)
  (602) - 581-4652
|  AG Communications Systems, Phoenix AZ   |
 UUCP: ?ncar!noao!asuvax | uunet!zardoz!hrc | att?!gtephx!covertr
 
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Date: Thu, 7 Dec 89 09:47:56 EST
From: "Gerry Greenberg: 315-443-5378"
 <MAXG%SUVM.BITNET@CORNELLC.cit.cornell.edu>
Subject: SYQUEST REMOVABLE DRIVES
 
Does anybody out there have a Syquest removable drive hooked up to their
machine? or know the address/phone
of Syquest?  This might be the way to go for a hard drive
system...Maybe putting off getting a hard drive for so long might
actually pay off?!
Thanks,
Gerry
maxg@suvm   (bitnet)
ggreenbe@rodan.acs.syr.edu   (internet)
 
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