INFO-ATARI16 Digest         Thu, 12 Oct 89       Volume 89 : Issue 514
 
Today's Topics:
                            adding a 68881
               Connecting non-Atari monitors to the ST
                     laser printer vs. hard drive
                            MiniTerm 9.31
                        New Encoding Protocal
                 panarthea archive (was Re: Arc 5.21)
                    PD wordprocs and VT52 emulator
                        Portable Mac vs STACY
                   PORTFOLIO is *not* vaporware...
                               TOS 1.4
              TOS 1.4 features??? (Was Re: Disk Speedup)
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Date: Thu, 12 Oct 89 19:35:02 BST
From: Ian D Hawkins
 <idh%NABLA.ELECTRICAL-ENGINEERING.UMIST.AC.UK@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: adding a 68881
 
Thanks for the replies to my posting asking for 68881 add-on
info.  The machine I intend adding the coprocessor to is a
recent 1040STFM.  It has two ROM chips,  surface mounted GLUE
and MMU chips and the 68000 is positioned below the keyboard
space bar.  It has been upgraded to 2M ram.  I understood a
German company (Lischa Datentechnik,  Hochstrasse 22, 4173
Kerken 2) produced a board that was stuck ontop of the 68000,
it sounded suitable,  I wrote to them but no reply came.  If
any one knows about Lischa & the 68881 please elaborate. I
tried to get a Third Coast CMI accelerator board,  ordered it
in june,  they cashed the cheque,  they still havent sent the
board,  despite having advertised its existance for months.  I
phoned them, they said 'ready in two weeks' .....four weeks
ago.  I am not happy with Third Coast's service.
           In reply to Wolfgang Hecht's enquiry about ST
Fortrans,  the only Fortran I am familiar with is by Prospero.
It is well documented,  has a good debuger, and produces code
that runs 20KWhetstone/s double precision 50KWhetstones single
precision (and 200KWhetstones for both precisions with the
68881).  Both single and double precision use the IEEE floating
point format.  About the only gripe I have against it is the
rather slow compile and link times and the slow editor screen
manipulation (much improved with turbo ST 1.6).
 
idh@uk.ac.umist.electrical-engineering.nabla
Ian Hawkins  (phone 061-200-4769)
Elec Eng
UMIST
Manchester po box88
England
 
 
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Date: 12 Oct 89 20:28:28 GMT
From: grapevine!panarthea!koreth@sun.com  (Steven Grimm)
Subject: Connecting non-Atari monitors to the ST
 
In article <375@loria.crin.fr> domen@loria.crin.fr (Eric Domenjoud) writes:
>It seems that all bytes whose value was 0x0D were removed from
>the executable file ARC.TTP, perhaps by a virus.
 
Sorry, the virus is really CP/M text file format, which ends lines of text
in a CR-LF (0x0D/0x0A).  My bet is that you're on a UNIX system, and something
on there is "smart" enough to convert those end-of-lines to UNIX end-of-lines,
which are simply LF (0x0A).  How are you decoding the program?
 
---
"                                                  !" - Marcel Marceau
Steven Grimm		Moderator, comp.?sources,binaries?.atari.st
sgrimm@sun.com		...!sun!sgrimm
 
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Date: 12 Oct 89 16:02:23 GMT
From: phyllis.math.binghamton.edu!dennis@bingvaxu.cc.binghamton.edu  (dennis
 pixton)
Subject: laser printer vs. hard drive
 
I have a mega-4, atari laser printer, and external hard drive (Supra card).
Apparently when I boot with the laser printer attached it must be turned on;
otherwise I can't access the hard drive.  If I turn the printer off after I
boot I have trouble accessing both the hard drive and the floppy.  It's a
real pain to swap cables to bypass the laser printer.  I talked to a dealer
who said that this was "normal behavior".
 
So:
 
1. Is there any danger to the laser printer if I leave it on while I'm using
the mega?  The system is usually on about 8 hours a day, seven days a week.
 
2. Is there any switch available which will allow me to use the machine
with the laser printer still attached but turned off?
 
3. Is there anything else I can try?
 
--
Dennis Pixton
Department of Mathematical Sciences     (607) 777-4239
SUNY-Binghamton                         dennis@math.binghamton.edu
Binghamton, NY  13901                   dpixton@bingvaxa.bitnet
Dennis Pixton
Department of Mathematical Sciences     (607) 777-4239
SUNY-Binghamton                         dennis@math.binghamton.edu
Binghamton, NY  13901                   dpixton@bingvaxa.bitnet
 
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Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1989 1:34:50 MET
From: LarsErikOsterud <larserio@ifi.uio.no>
Subject: MiniTerm 9.31
 
This is to all users of MiniTerm - All else may abort now !
 
A friend of mine got tired of editing MINITERM.INF in a text-editor and
made a smart program called SETUP to configure MiniTerm....
 
This program is now posted to panarthea and will be available soon....
With this program it should be "piece of cake" to setup MiniTerm...
 
 Lars-Erik  /  ABK-BBS +47 2132659  /   ____ ______ ________________________
  Osterud  /  larserio@ifi.uio.no  /   /___    /            The norwegian ST
__________/ ______________________/   ____/   /   Klubben,  user association
 
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Date: Thu, 12 Oct 89 10:06 CDT
From: STIBOREK@vaxb.acs.unt.edu
Subject: New Encoding Protocal
 
In a letter on  9 Sep 89 20:21:16 GMT
Antony A. Courtney of:
agate!helios.ee.lbl.gov!lbl-csam.arpa!antony@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU
(Antony A. Courtney)
Writes:...
>Don't believe everything you read.  There are any number of sights out
>there on bitnet which have to pass through very old IBM hardware.  This
>old IBM mainframe hardware does NOT use ASCII, but rather an older
>standard called EBCDIC.   There are, however, plenty of EBCDIC<-->ASCII
>converter programs.  Unfortunately they do not always agree on which
>characters are which.  I have seen this happen enough times to know
>that  uuencoding does not work for absolutely EVERY sight on EVERY
>network.  Uuencoding just works on enough sights that nobody complains.
>Especially since nobody wants to have to clean up after IBM.
 
>If you are still stuck or want more information about this, there was a
>solution found by a programmer (and friend of mine) for the Tandy color
>computer which transferred files across just about any network you can
>think of(they use a fileserver on an EBCDIC computer).  If you like,
>I can send you more information on who to talk to about getting a
>protocol which will work for you.
 
[ excuse the public message all ]
To Antony:
    I would be very interested in such a protocol to send files, we
have narrowed down the problem to a 'brain-dead' gate along the route.
If such a protocol would go through this gateway then the problem
would be solved.  I tried to e-mail you directly but failed, if
possible send me e-mail.                __     ___    __   __  _   __  __
                                       / / / / /  /  /-/  / / / | /_  /_/
and thanks...                         /_/ /_/ /  /_ /  / / / /_/ /_  /  |
=>|John STiborek|UNTvax.BitNet|STiborek.Vaxb.acs.UNT.Edu.ARPA|Outlander|<=
 
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Date: 12 Oct 89 20:21:46 GMT
From: att!occrsh!uokmax!kllove@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (Kenneth L Love)
Subject: panarthea archive (was Re: Arc 5.21)
 
In article <34517@grapevine.uucp> koreth@panarthea.ebay.sun.com (Steven Grimm)
 writes:
>It's come to my attention that several people don't have Arc 5.21 and don't
>know where to get it.  It is available from the panarthea archive service.
>If you've never used the service, send a mail message containing the word
>"help" to archive-server@panarthea.ebay.sun.com for more information.
>---
>"                                                  !" - Marcel Marceau
>Steven Grimm		Moderator, comp.?sources,binaries?.atari.st
>sgrimm@sun.com		...!sun!sgrimm
 
 
Does anyone have an address for the panarthea.ebay.sun.com archive?  My site
doesn't seem to have it listed in the hosts file.
 
                                            Kenneth Love
 
ps.  Anybody ever notice that ST & TOS stand for Star Trek and The Original
     Series, respectively?  Was this a total coincidence or was Atari trying
     to get some Trekkers ?Trekkies, whatever!? to buy the ST?
 
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Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1989 12:37 EDT
From: Greg Csullog <01659%AECLCR.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: PD wordprocs and VT52 emulator
 
1. PD wordprocs
 
The attitude that it is nuts to pay more than $100 for software is the
reason why there is not the same level of quality in much of the STware as
there is in Macware. As I said on the NET before, if you want good codes,
with good support, you have to pay for it UNLESS you find individuals like
Simon Poole (UNITERM author) who develop exceptional PD codes. Strange as it
may be, lots of people want to make money selling software; if they cannot,
be prepared for a machine that has a limited selection of good codes.
 
2. VT emulator
 
Forget the EMULATOR.ACC and get Simon Poole's UNITERM. UNITERM is the best
ST emulator for the price (free). IMHO, it's the best at any price (no
flames please).
 
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Date: 12 Oct 89 16:47:22 GMT
From: matthews@umd5.umd.edu  (Mike Matthews)
Subject: Portable Mac vs STACY
 
In article <462a4b3d.14a1f@force.UUCP> covertr@force.UUCP (Richard E. Covert)
 writes:
>Ok, now weill I didn't go to the WAACE Atari fest last weekend, I heard that
>the STacy on display at the show was the same old prototype that Atari has
>been showing for months!! It wasn't even a production model.
 
I personally have never heard of a Stacy4 with 4 megs of RAM and an internal
hard drive, until I saw it at the Fest.
There is some problem with the local editor and what terminal type it thinks
I'm using, so some of the lines from your old message seem to have disap-
peared.  Your definition of Vaporware is... well, not what I would consider
OK.  The STacy isn't vaporware.  It is unavailable.  Vaporware means, to me,
the product doesn't exist in any form.
 
>P.S. so, where was the TT, 1040STe, CD ROMs, PC DITTO II?? Did Atari
>have the TOS 1.4 EPROMs for sell at the show?? Did Atari, the company,
>show anything NEW at the show??
The TT etc. were absent (I'm a little upset at that too).  Atari wasn't there
to sell anything (they seldom, if ever, SELL anything at a show, just demo
stuff).  The new stuff they showed, aside from the STacy4, was the Portfolio
and a Megafile 60 (not very exciting, but it IS new).
>
>Nope. I thought not.
Since you yourself said you werne't there, I wish you'd stop making statements
that would require your presence to verify them.
 
>I, for one, am just waiting for Jim Allen to develope his 68030 board for the
>Mega ST. I hear that he might even add more memory to it. And maybe better
>color graphics!! Heck, maybe Jim Allen (designer of that wonderful product
>Turbo16!!) can do what Atari has failed to do:
>	Design a 68030 computer and market it!!!
>
I'd rather have a computer designed for an '030.  The Mega is too closed an
architecture to allow any good to come from putting an 030 in there (compared
to a real 030 machine).
>I heard that Jim Allen was at the WAACE show. Did anyone talk to Jim??
>Richard Covert
 
If I didn't now better, I'd say someone else wastrying to type into this
document. <sigh>
 
One question I wish you'd ask yourself is this:
  what good is all this complaining doing?
 
Mike Matthews
 
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Date: 12 Oct 89 22:40:04 GMT
From: imagen!atari!towns@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (John Townsend)
Subject: PORTFOLIO is *not* vaporware...
 
in article <891011.18574418.070054@SFA.CP6>, Z4648252@SFAUSTIN.BITNET (Z4648252)
 says:
>
>
>     With all the usual talk of "Atari's blown it again, etc., ad nausem"
> from many on this net, including myself, it might be refreshing to know
> that product is arriving, at least in this little neck of the woods, this
> IBM and Mac world that I live in.
>     At our university, I saw two Portfolios that just arrived.  One was
> at the bookstore labeled to go to the legal school and the other is going
> to the sports department.
>     To top it off, if you call 1-800-443-8020, you will not only get a
> nice lady answering with "Portfolio Hotline" but she will quickly tell
> you where your quickest dealer is.  To be frank, I was so flabbergasted
> at the professionalism that I forgot to ask if I could have ordered a
> Portfolio via the same number.
>     I did retain enough mental capabilities to ask if I could have some
> material for the Portfolio.  "Why yes.  What is your address?"  I actually
> remembered my address.
>     Anyway, I think the door is beginning to open.
>
> Larry Rymal:  |East Texas Atari 68NNNers| <Z4648252@SFAUSTIN.BITNET>
 
As for your question, yes! You can order Portfolio from the same line as
you called for information or you can order it from any of the speciality
dealers that are currently carrying the product.
 
For your closest Portfolio dealer, call the toll free 800 number listed
above.
 
As for the service, thanks for the comments.. I will pass them along to
the tired Portfolio Group (Boy are they busy!)..
 
-- John Townsend				ames!atari!towns
   Atari Corporation, Technical Support
 
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Date: 12 Oct 89 22:44:27 GMT
From: uucp@eddie.mit.edu  (Jon Drukman)
Subject: TOS 1.4
 
OK, I know everyone is going to be sick to their stomachs at seeing
this question, so do us all a favor and reply by MAIL only.
 
What new features does TOS 1.4 offer?  I have the Mega ROMs in my
souped-up 520ST (double sided drive and 1 meg memory expansion).
How much does it cost and where would it be preferable to get it
from?  I got the Mega ROM upgrade from a dealer on six chips, which
I popped in myself in 10 minutes.
 
Basically, is it worthwhile doing this upgrade?
 
 
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Date: 12 Oct 89 17:42:52 GMT
From: att!watmath!watcgl!electro!carlo@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (Carlo Sgro)
Subject: TOS 1.4 features??? (Was Re: Disk Speedup)
 
In article <1725@atari.UUCP> jansen@atari.UUCP (Mark O. Jansen) writes:
>I'd recommend you get Rainbow TOS, for this and lots of other reasons.
 
Well, what are those reasons??  I've seen a LOT of discussion about 1.4 but
I still haven't seen a summary of its new features and how to use them.  Is
this asking too much (honest question!)?
 
 
--
 
Carlo Sgro                             ... but does Bo know nuclear physics?
watmath!watcgl!electro!carlo
 
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