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INFO-ATARI16 Digest         Thu, 25 Jan 90       Volume 90 : Issue  100
 
Today's Topics:
                      Can I program a Portfolio?
                              DUCK31.PRG
                               Ethernet
                FOR SALE: Atari 1040ST & color monitor
                       ST S/ware Rental Places
                       ST with an Amiga Monitor
                        uudecode "short file"
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Date: 25 Jan 90 23:21:10 GMT
From: haven!grebyn!ckp@ames.arc.nasa.gov  (Checkpoint Technologies)
Subject: Can I program a Portfolio?
Message-ID: <14160@grebyn.com>
 
        [ What's all this I hear about a line-eater? ]
 
        OK, the Portfolio seems like a nifty, useful machine.  MS-DOS
compatible, it says (2.11), and a few built-in applications, and RAM
carts.  Good price.  But, see, I'm a programmer, and I'll be wanting to
write my own programs for it, or else I'd just get a Wizard or BOSS or
some such.
 
        So how does one go about programming a Portfolio?
Do I need to buy an expensive development environment and sign up for
developer support programs? Or can I downloads into it using the serial
port, from a regular MS-DOS machine?  And does it *really* run MS-DOS
2.11?
 
        I don't really think this is the "proper" place to post this,
but this is about the only active Atari group I can find.
 
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Date: 25 JAN 90 16:41:31 CST
From: Z4648252 <Z4648252%SFAUSTIN.BITNET@ricevm1.rice.edu>
Subject: DUCK31.PRG
Message-ID: <900125.16412988.013314@SFA.CP6>
 
Hello all,
 
    A few weeks back, I wrote a simple program called DUCK31.PRG and it
is an upgrade to an earlier program written during the early part of
1989.  It is a hard drive bootup program similar to other programs on
circulation in which the computer is reset after a time delay during
bootup.  The reset allows the computer to boot from the hard drive.
    Duck is similar to the other programs but differs in that it
has a delay change feature from within the program rather than via a
text processor.  It seems to be fairly solid and has been used by several
STers who are quite happy with it.
    I have received reports that it is not working with some STs and for
the life of me, I can't figure out why.  Problems are that the program
simply stops its reset process and bumps to the desktop.  The user is
unable to use drive A or B icons.  The problem shows when
a startup disk with DUCK31.PRG inside of A:\AUTO\ is in the computer and
when power is applied to both hard drive and computer.  That is when
Duck is supposed to work, i.e., DELAY then RESET.
    On most other STs, everthing works fine.  There is a delay, the
computer is then reset, and then the hard drive comes up.  The present
ST that doesn't like this program is a 1040ST with a BMS host adaptor.
Duck's pseudocode is simple:
 
READ DELAY VALUE
DELAY
RESET COMPUTER
 
 
    Duck has been tested on a Mega2 ST and Mega4, a 520ST and 1040ST.
Hard drive host adaptors include the unit inside of the SH204, and
the ICD adaptor.  I don't have access to Supra or BMS adaptors.  Because
Duck worked with the Atari and ICD units, I assumed that the program
would work and was ready for release.
    'Nuther clue.  All of the STs which have been successful with
DUCK31.PRG use TOS versions 1.2 and 1.4.  I don't have access to earlier
TOS versions.
    If anyone can provide clues on how programs behave when booted
from powerup from within A:/AUTO/ and when the hard drive is also
given power at the same time, I sure would be appreciative.
    ...just another reason why I wish we had some documentation.  SIGH
    Note that DUCK31.PRG is available at Panarthea and on GEnie.
 
Larry Rymal:  |East Texas Atari 68NNNers| <Z4648252@SFAUSTIN.BITNET>
 
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Date: 25 Jan 90 22:02:45 GMT
From: mcsun!sunic!lth.se!newsuser@uunet.uu.net  (Ralph Haglund)
Subject: Ethernet
Message-ID: <1990Jan25.220245.29940@lth.se>
 
A simple question - I have heard rumors about Ethernet for the Atari ST.
Anyone who can give me some more substantial info? Thanx!
 
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Date: 25 Jan 90 17:32:14 GMT
From: att!cbnewsh!rc@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (richard.chan)
Subject: FOR SALE: Atari 1040ST & color monitor
Message-ID: <7678@cbnewsh.ATT.COM>
 
FOR SALE:
 
Atari 1040ST with
    TOS 1.0 & TOS 1.4 switch ($100 value)                  $450.00
 
SC1224 color monitor                                       $250.00
 
or BOTH for $650.00.
 
Call John at (212) 233-6194 before 4:30PM.
 
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Date: 25 Jan 90 22:25:32 GMT
From: brunix!rjd@uunet.uu.net  (Rob Demillo)
Subject: ST S/ware Rental Places
Message-ID: <26747@brunix.UUCP>
 
In article <2713@cunixc.cc.columbia.edu> ia4@cunixd.cc.columbia.edu (Imran
 Anwar) writes:
>In article <26640@brunix.UUCP> rjd@cs.brown.edu (Rob Demillo) writes:
>>I *can't* think of an analogous example because there *isn't* one.
>>The only one that comes close is in the record industry. When I was
>
>I think piracy is an issue that threatens the movie/video industry also. Yet
>there are video rental places all over the place.
>
>>My point is that piracy continues. Software rental places would
>>"legitimize" piracy in the minds of people who already think its
>>ok.
>
>Same logic applies to video rentals I think.
>
 
I still maintain that it does not. It takes time (2-3 hours) and great
expense (a second VCR) to record movies. Most movies also have copy
protection schemes that do not interfer with the viewing, but produce
non-perfect copies contain image wavering and sound dropout.
(As opposed to software copy protection, which
is a hassle for computer users to deal with.)
 
Movie theft continues, but not to the same degree. A video pirate cannot
easily mass produce or copy films without a great deal of equipment or
time. A software pirate can literally mass produce 100's of copies
of software an hour.
 
Furthermore, legislation in the video industry is *also* taking place.
Two years ago, JVC tried marketing a two cassette (one play one play and
record) VCR...they were "asked" to remove the model from their VCR
line.
 
 
 - Rob DeMillo                  | Internet: rjd@brown.cs.edu
   Brown University             | BITnet: DEMILLO%BRNPSG.SPAN@STAR.STANFORD.EDU
   Planetary Science Group      | Reality: 401-273-0804 (home)
"I say you *are* the Messiah, Lord! And I ought to know, I've followed a few!"
 
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Date: 25 Jan 90 22:09:49 GMT
From: silver!stowe@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu  (stowe)
Subject: ST with an Amiga Monitor
Message-ID: <33967@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu>
 
In article <1892@gmdzi.UUCP> focke@gmdzi.UUCP (Stefan Focke) writes:
 
>It is possible to connect a 1084 to a 1040. The only thing you need is a
>cable with a Scart connector for the 1084 and a monitor plug for the ST.
 
But what pins go with what?  I also know of someone who wants to do this...
 
Details, please...  Thanks!
 
 
 
 
 
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stowe@silver.ucs.indiana.edu                    At night the Ice Weasels come.
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Date: 25 Jan 90 16:26:30 GMT
From: att!dptg!lzsc!hcj@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (HC Johnson)
Subject: uudecode "short file"
Message-ID: <1240@lzsc.ATT.COM>
 
In article <26645@brunix.UUCP>, rjd@cs.brown.edu (Rob Demillo) writes:
> I realize this gets brought up every so often, and I used to
> know the answer (honest!),  however...
>
> What is the "short file" error message during a uudecode a
> symptom of? I know that I line has to be either added or
> subtracted, but that's as far as my memory will let me recall.
>
I posted a bunch of stuff uuencoded on the ATARI.  It had a <CR> and <LF>
at the end of each line.  uudecode and uud could handle the data, but kept
complaining of no 'end'.  Removing all the trailing <CR> solved th problem.
 
 
Howard C. Johnson
ATT Bell Labs
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att!lzsc!hcj
hcj@lzsc.att.com
 
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