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INFO-ATARI16 Digest         Sun,  4 Feb 90       Volume 90 : Issue  153
 
Today's Topics:
                      All BBS's speak English??
           Atari's Quarterly Results ($5.4 Million Lost) :)
      Atari 1040ST w/two monitors for sale (repost, lower price)
                          Full Color STacey
                     MicroEMACS 3.10.......where?
                     MicroEMACS 3.10 Cursor/Bell
       Spectre GCR--SoundMaster questions--Hard Drive questions
                         The 'PHANTOM TYPIST'
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Date: 3 Feb 90 18:54:58 GMT
From:
 zephyr.ens.tek.com!tektronix!psueea!qiclab!m2xenix!randy@beaver.cs.washington.e
 du  (Randy Bush)
Subject: All BBS's speak English??
Message-ID: <565@m2xenix.UUCP>
 
The new version of Fido, 12s, and the upcoming (17 March) version of Opus are
multi-lingual.  There are utilities to translate all commands, prompts, etc.
into most languages.  I do not believe any of the test crew for these have yet
tried languages that use extended character sets, e.g.  Finnish, so that may
reveal bugs.
 
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..!uunet!m2xenix!randy   randy@m2xenix.psg.com   (Randy Bush)
 
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Date: 4 Feb 90 10:15:25 GMT
From: earthquake.Berkeley.EDU!kawakami@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (John Kawakami)
Subject: Atari's Quarterly Results ($5.4 Million Lost) :)
Message-ID: <34112@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU>
 
In article <485d8c5b.14a1f@force.UUCP> covertr@force.UUCP (Richard E. Covert)
 writes:
>
>well, once again Atari Corp has shown how much it cares about the
>USA market by releasing its new products overseas first. I really wonder
>just how committed Atari corp is to the USa market anyway??
 
1.  I didn't know there was a sea between the USA and Canada.
2.  I think Atari ships to other countries first because Atari diddles
    too long figuring out how to market the machines here.  The Atari
    has a serious identity crisis.
2a. I don't think shipping to other countries is such a bad thing, especially
    if the dollar is weak elswhere.
 
 
>
>So, I am happy that the STe isn't Vaporware but it just joins the group of
>other Atari products that have never been sold here in the USA. Like th
>entire line of PC clones, the TT, and now the STe. Geez, when will Atari
>ever learn that the USA is not some hick third world country?
>
>
 
I was always under the impression that most ST/Megas are sold in 1st
world countries like W Germany, Great Britan, Canada, and France.
 
 
 
John Kawakami       kawakami@earthquake.berkeley.edu
                    ucbvax!earthquake.berkeley.edu!kawakami
                    take-a-right-up-the-hill-then-a-left-on-leroy
 
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Date: 4 Feb 90 06:49:48 GMT
From:
 elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!rpi!pawl19.pawl.rpi.edu!dorian
 @decwrl.dec.com  (Dorian S. Garson)
Subject: Atari 1040ST w/two monitors for sale (repost, lower price)
Message-ID: <*83XV#@rpi.edu>
 
Subject says it all.  Please buy my ST.
 
  First $599 takes the whole enchilada.
 
Buyer pays shipping.
 
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Date: 29 Jan 90 16:12:57 GMT
From: ucsdhub!hp-sdd!hp-pcd!hpmcaa!patrick@ucsd.edu  (Patrick Hawke)
Subject: Full Color STacey
Message-ID: <760016@hpmcaa.mcm.hp.com>
 
To see a full color picture of the STacey look in the February issue
 
of Electronic Musician.   Page 20  -  STacey 4
 
Question: Does the Display really look that good?  It looks Backlit.
 
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Date: 4 Feb 90 07:33:53 GMT
From: bucsb!harryk@CS.BU.EDU  (_harryk)
Subject: MicroEMACS 3.10.......where?
Message-ID: <246@bucsb.UUCP>
 
        Oppps! It seems I screwd up with the previous article..anyway, I'd like
to find out where is MicroEMACS 3.10 stored (I can ftp anywhere in the US)....
Sorry, if this has been asked before....I haven't noticed it!
 
                                                        Thanks in Advance
                                                        HARRY KARAYIANNIS
 
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Date: 4 Feb 90 07:27:15 GMT
From: bucsb!harryk@CS.BU.EDU  (Harry Karayiannis)
Subject: MicroEMACS 3.10 Cursor/Bell
Message-ID: <245@bucsb.UUCP>
 
In article <B#3Y4*@masalla.fulcrum.bt.co.uk>
 chrisl@masalla.fulcrum.bt.co.uk.UUCP writes:
>I've just compiled up MicroEMACS 3.10 on my ST (Using MWC), and at first
>I thought all was hunky-dory. Then I went and used it on another machine which
>happened to have the monitor sound turned up (mine's turned down 'cos I don't
>like keyclick). Imagine my surprise when, every time the cursor was XOR'ed,
>a sound like a chiming bell was emitted. Not the normal beep/click sound, but
>a *really* annoying bell sound. I then tried it on my own machine with the
>sound turned up, and it does exactly the same. I hate it!
>
>Has anyone else experienced this? If so, what the heck causes it? I can't
>see anything obvious, and I've certainly never come across it in the
>documentation anywhere. All help gratefully received.
>
>Thanx in advance,
>
>-Chrisl.
>--
>               "Time is an illusion. Lunchtime doubly so."
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 -
>Chris Parkin Lilley, CS1.2, BT Fulcrum, UK
 chrisl@uk.co.bt.fulcrum
 
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Date: 4 Feb 90 15:12:36 GMT
From: matthews@umd5.umd.edu  (Mike Matthews)
Subject: Spectre GCR--SoundMaster questions--Hard Drive questions
Message-ID: <6080@umd5.umd.edu>
 
In article <900203.14554087.021491@SFA.CP6> Z4648252@SFAUSTIN.BITNET (Z4648252)
 writes:
>Hello Spectre GCRers,
>
>    I've some questions egarding SoundMaster and hard drive backup.  First
[stuff deleted 'bout sounds; the reason the sounds are played at a faster rate
 on the ST is because the monitor's refresh rate is faster.. not sure if there
 really is a way to get sounds to come out correctly]
 
>    My final question is in regard to hard drive backups.  Is there a
>program similar to Turtle for the Mac that will work with Spectre GCR?
[...]
Well... there is a commercial product called DiskFit that I hear is really
good.  I don't have it, nor have I ever used it (there was supposed to be a
shareware version of it, but its origins were flaky so I deleted it Just In
Case).  I've been scanning (sorta) the Mac anonymous ftp sites, and have found
a few pd/shareware backup programs, but none seem to fit the bill (they either
take 2 hours for 20 megabytes (YUCK!) or don't quite know how to get the total
files on disk.. maybe they don't like HFS, I dunno).
>
>Larry Rymal:  |East Texas Atari 68NNNers| <Z4648252@SFAUSTIN.BITNET>
 
Mike (matthews@umd5.umd.edu)
 
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Date: 04 FEB 90 10:48:43 CST
From: Z4648252 <Z4648252%SFAUSTIN.BITNET@ricevm1.rice.edu>
Subject: The 'PHANTOM TYPIST'
Message-ID: <900204.10484196.021631@SFA.CP6>
 
    There has been an increasing amount of talk about the 'phantom
typist' on the ST, in which the computer appears to slow down and
whatever characters are stored in the keyboard buffer, appear, albeit
slowly.  Some programs which have keyboard commands, such as WordPerfect
can have work saved when you see this happen by pressing the save file
command, typically <S>.  It may occur a minute later (!!!! grrr) but it
will occur.
    This was reported on GEnie back in 1987, denied by Neil Harris and
questioned by John Towns.  Well, no doubt, the phantom typist is so
incredibly difficult to duplicate.  I was able to get it to appear
regularly in Flash only to find that WordPerfect and WordWriter could
do it also after I bought those packages.
    Ok, this is an old bug or design flaw.  Denial of it won't make it
go away.  Neither will bashing Atari or Atari's engineers.  What is
needed is for everyone who encounters it to immediately (!!!) write down
what was done to cause the phantom to show and post what happened.  Isolation
is the problem on this phantom, not scapegoating.
    Several reports might allow Ken, John, or Allen to zero in better on
the theory of how the Phantom Typist shows.
    I've two areas of question about the subject.  The first one is the
ST keyboard itself.  Certain keyboard combinations will trigger a function
key.  Very obnoxious especially when it is 3:00 am and one begins fat-fingering
keys.  YAWN
    The second one is with Spectre GCR.  I have had (twice, but in a year
time frame) the Phantom Typist to show in Spectre GCR.  Behavior is
identical to his showing up in the ST, i.e., characters stored in the
keyboard buffer appear very slowly, including keyboard commands.
    Hope this helps (???!!!)
 
Larry Rymal:  |East Texas Atari 68NNNers| <Z4648252@SFAUSTIN.BITNET>
 
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