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INFO-ATARI16 Digest         Thu,  5 Apr 90       Volume 90 : Issue  407
 
Today's Topics:
                    GCR & Stacy & HardDisk access
                       Gemini + dstart.o = BOOM
                             Gulam Hooks
                          KERMIT!? (2 msgs)
                                server
                               TT rumor
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Date: 4 Apr 90 22:53:35 GMT
From: att!drutx!druwy!dlm@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (Daniel L. Moore)
Subject: GCR & Stacy & HardDisk access
Message-ID: <4743@druwy.ATT.COM>
 
in article <1990Apr3.110355.26669@lth.se>, qralph@dna.lth.se (Ralph Haglund)
 says:
> Hi folks,
> Atari desktop was missing), but they couldn't access the hard disk! As they
> know I am scanning the net they asked me to ask - is there any trick involved?
> Also - any info how the hard disk is attached in the Stacy? They said it is
> preformatted, prepartitioned, and no human being except High Priests can make
> any kind of changes there. Info?
 
        One or more of the partitions on the STacy hard disk need to be
converted into Spectre partitions.  Just use the format command on the
hard disk menu when Spectre is started.
 
        If the Spectre can't access the hard disk at all (ie.  not even
from the startup menu) then they need to change the device/subdevice
menu so that the Spectre does NOT access any of the LUN 1 drives, only
LUN 0.  After they change the sub-device menu save the Spectre
configuration and then reboot and try again.  There is (or at least was)
a bug in the STacy hard disk, if it saw a reference to LUN 1 the drive
locked up.  It wouldn't even respond to commands sent to LUN 0.
 
 
                                Dan Moore
                                AT&T Bell Labs
                                Denver
                                dlm@druwy.ATT.COM
 
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Date: 4 Apr 90 19:08:50 GMT
From: mcsun!unido!fauern!fauern!dkhusema@uunet.uu.net  (Dirk Husemann)
Subject: Gemini + dstart.o = BOOM
Message-ID: <2632@medusa.informatik.uni-erlangen.de>
 
dmb@wam.umd.edu (David M. Baggett) writes:
 
>I've noticed that all programs I've compiled with Sozobon C and Dlibs
>instantly die with three bombs if run from within Gemini.  Since even
 
...
 
>Has anybody else experienced this?
 
Yes, me! Couldn't figure out why, but would appreciate any help. I couldn't even
get Sozobon to run ...
 
>Dave Baggett
>dmb@cscwam.umd.edu
 
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Date: 5 Apr 90 05:05:45 GMT
From: maytag!water!ljdickey@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu  (L.J.Dickey)
Subject: Gulam Hooks
Message-ID: <3129@water.waterloo.edu>
 
In article <2172@onion.reading.ac.uk> djd1@csug.cs.reading.ac.uk () writes:
>    I am  writing a text editor, which is to be run from Gulam. One feature
>that the editor has is that it can do shell commands, akin to :!<cmd> in
>vi.  I have managed to achieve this using the SHELLP variable, as described
>in the article by (I think) Leroy Dickey and .. I must apologise, I cannot
>remember his name, but it's the chap who wrote the example program to show
>how to use Gulam hooks in the same article. This article was released with
>version 1.03.04.05 of gulam.
 
Sorry, what you are asking is a little bit beyond me.  The article you
mention may have been by Prof. Mateti, himself.  I have had some small
success with some shell commands and aliases, and this ability has
kept me happy using Gulam.
 
By the way, djd1, I have tried to reach you several times by e-mail,
but, as far as I can tell, have had a lot of failures.
 
                                                Lee
 
--
    Leroy J. Dickey, Faculty of Mathematics, University of Waterloo.
        ljdickey@water.waterloo.edu
        ljdickey@water.UWaterloo.ca     ljdickey@water.bitnet
        ljdickey@water.UUCP             ..!uunet!watmath!ljdickey
 
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Date: 5 Apr 90 04:41:48 GMT
From: cunixf.cc.columbia.edu!cunixa.cc.columbia.edu!cmm1@rutgers.edu
 (Christopher M Mauritz)
Subject: KERMIT!?
Message-ID: <1990Apr5.044148.15716@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu>
 
In article <9004030710.AA10493@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> WJOHNSTO@COLGATEU.BITNET
 writes:
>Hello again:
>
>        Several people responded with very helpful suggestions as to
>places I could obtain software and other remedies for "Atari iso-
>lation". What I need now is some way of downloading what I (presumably
>will be able to) find. Our VAX does not support my downloading
>routines (xmodem and dft, on MI-term); the staff suggest I look into
>KERMIT, which suggests that not everything has changed in recent years.
>
>        Does anyone have any suggestions where I could find a version of
>kermit that would run on my ST (512 K) and on VAX/VMS 5.2? Or suggest
>an alternative? I assume that with only 512K I'm out of the running for
>UUCP and similar stuff...
>
>        Many thanks!
>
>        Michael Johnston
>        WJOHNSTON@COLGATEU
 
Send email to fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu.  He wrote Kermit in the first
place and I believe that Columbia has some sort of port for the ST.  I
have had excellent luck with the implementation of Kermit on Uniterm,
but some people may prefer getting it from the horse's mouth
(no offense, Frank).
 
Chris
 
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cmm1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu   |there's a plan.
(c)All rights reserved.       |
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Date: 4 Apr 90 13:21:38 GMT
From: ncrlnk!ncrwic!wsuiar!mwjester@uunet.uu.net  (Max Jester)
Subject: KERMIT!?
Message-ID: <111.2619ae92@wsuiar.uucp>
 
In article <9004030710.AA10493@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU>, WJOHNSTO@COLGATEU.BITNET
 writes:
> Hello again:
>
>         Several people responded with very helpful suggestions as to
> places I could obtain software and other remedies for "Atari iso-
> lation". What I need now is some way of downloading what I (presumably
> will be able to) find. Our VAX does not support my downloading
> routines (xmodem and dft, on MI-term); the staff suggest I look into
> KERMIT, which suggests that not everything has changed in recent years.
>
>         Does anyone have any suggestions where I could find a version of
> kermit that would run on my ST (512 K) and on VAX/VMS 5.2? Or suggest
> an alternative? I assume that with only 512K I'm out of the running for
> UUCP and similar stuff...
>
>         Many thanks!
>
>         Michael Johnston
>         WJOHNSTON@COLGATEU
 
On the ST end, I would suggest using Uniterm, which includes Kermit, among
other protocols.  I have been using it on a 1040ST connected to a VAX with
VMS 5.2, and have had excellent results with both ASCII and binary files.
 
As for the VAX - ask your system manager; it may already be installed.  If
not, there are a number of versions available; the cheapest way is probably
via a DECUS tape, which is available for a nominal (for a VAX site) fee.
Or he/she may be able to get it from another VAX site locally; there are no
restrictions on redistribution.
 
BTW, I haven't tried Uniterm on a 520 - can someone verify that it works
with that HW setup?
 
Hope this helps.
 
Max J.
 
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Date: Thu, 5 Apr 90 08:31 N
From: "Frits Dumortier/R.U.G." <FD%BGERUG51.BITNET@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
Subject: server
 
Dear Netters,
 
Is there still any server on the net from which files and programs can be
obtained? On BITNET we don't have access to anonymous ftp, but that info
would also be welcome.
 
Please e-mail to me directly, and I will summarize to the net if enough
interest.
 
Greetings,
 
Frits Dumortier
(FD@BGERUG51.BITNET)
 
 
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Date: 4 Apr 90 19:20:09 GMT
From: portal!atari!apratt@apple.com  (Allan Pratt)
Subject: TT rumor
Message-ID: <2122@atari.UUCP>
 
> (Sounds like someone is more than a bit gullible to pass on
> everything that they heard)
 
You admit that this is unbelievable and you don't lend any credence to
the person who told you.  So why post asking for someone to confirm or
deny?  Just assume that anything you don't hear from several sources is
probably false, and things you *do* hear from several sources are
probably false, too. Even things from Atari can be false: I said STe's
might not have SIMM sockets, but that turned out not to be the case.
 
All you do by posting this rumor is create more confusion. Some people
will believe you, which means people like me have to spend time denying
silly things rather than getting useful work done or disseminating
useful information.
 
I know that if I don't go out of my way to deny this rumor (as opposed
to discrediting it), people will pounce on me and say, "He didn't deny
it!" ... So here goes: To my knowledge, the TT will ship under the
Atari name.  However, I'm not Jack Tramiel, or even Sam, and my
knowledge goes only so far.
 
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Opinions expressed above do not necessarily     -- Allan Pratt, Atari Corp.
reflect those of Atari Corp. or anyone else.      ...ames!atari!apratt
 
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