 
INFO-ATARI16 Digest         Fri, 23 Feb 90       Volume 90 : Issue  248
 
Today's Topics:
                  (La)TeX on the Atari ST - SUMMARY
                         Atari ST Sequencers
                       Attention: Johann Ruegg
                            Color and Mono
                         Containing the mouse
             Foreign exchange (was Re: Shareware Policy.)
                     Portfolio developers kit???
                        STe in Canada - Where?
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Date: 23 Feb 90 07:31:50 GMT
From: tahoe!wheeler!mikew@apple.com  (Mike Whitbeck)
Subject: (La)TeX on the Atari ST - SUMMARY
Message-ID: <3615@tahoe.unr.edu>
 
Here is a (very) brief summary of TeX on the Atari ST computer
resulting from my earlier post for info a few weeks ago.
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 From: Jwahar R. Bammi <bammi@alpha.ces.cwru.edu>
 1. software... what, where you got it (how), PD, shareware, cost etc.
        TeX             PD: i ported it
        LateX           PD: i ported it
        metafont        PD: ported by John Dunning
        font files (pk, mf, whatever) PD: from unix TeX dist
        tfm's           PD: part of dist or generate with MetaF
        previewers (and their fonts) PD: at least two of them: I use
                                one by robert stabl
        printer drivers PD: posted here: epson, hp, slm, nec ...
 2. hardware....
        1040, Mega[2,4], amount of memory (if nonstandard): my port
                runs on 1M or larger St. Previewrs require mono monitor
 
        All of the above and more available for FTP on dsrgsun.ces.cwru.edu
        in pub/atari/StTeX
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 From: John R. Dunning <jrd@STONY-BROOK.SCRC.Symbolics.COM>
 1. software... what, where you got it (how), PD, shareware, cost etc.
  Zero cost.  TeX etc, MF, Fontware etc were all compiled up from the
  sources available from Score (and now Science).  There are a couple
  previewers available in source form for the ST.  TFMs, fonts etc were
  compiled up from their MF sources with Metafont.
 
 2. hardware....
  M4, but originally a 520 upgraded to 1M.
    printer used (and any pertinent details-trials in getting it
            to work)
  Panasonic 1081.  Zero trouble.  Just compiled up DVIEPS and off it went.
    comments (bugs, koodoos)
  It all works.  I wish it was faster.
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 From: Bob Waltenspiel <bobw@hpsadpk.hp.com>
 1. software... what, where you got it (how), PD, shareware, cost etc.
     TeX
     LateX
     metafont
     font files (pk, mf, whatever)
 
     printer drivers
 
 
 I bought the discs from Current Notes.  The metafont program would not work
 as shipped.  When asking for help from someone who posted the mention of
 the CN discs they suggested getting MF from an archive.  He even called
 to find out how it worked.  I haven't yet tried it.
 
 2. hardware....
 520 w/2.5M, 60M ICD based harddisk, Deskjet.
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From: Michael Ritzert < mjr@dmzrzu71.bitnet >
        [Ritzert%DMZRZU71.BITNET@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU ]
 
 1. software... what, where you got it (how), PD, shareware, cost etc.
 
System a, Office:
          plain, gplain (German plain) TeX
          tools GmbH, Bonn, FRG
          pk fonts \magstep0 - \magstep5, most LaTeX fonts in font libraries
          universal screen/printer driver by tools GmbH
          supported devices: screen (95 dpi)
                             NEC P6 (360 dpi)
                                 (fonts and printer not installed at present)
                             HP DeskJet (300 dpi)
          price: ?350 DM including a lot of font disks
       comments (bugs, koodoos)
                             TeX is very fast, printer driver is fast
                             but triggers tos1.4 memory pool bug.
                             Screen driver supports high screen resolutions!
                             Cheap commercial TEX, GOOD support by
                             tools, extremly good price/value ratio!
 2. hardware....
          2x Mega4, 2x sh205 (one cabinet with a seagatest 251-1)
          both machines upgraded with Hypercache (16 MHz) and tos 1.4
          both machines standard monochrome (sm124)
          1 HP DeskJet, 1 HP DeskJet+
          Network being installed (Ethernet, PAM's Net, TCP/IP)
          no problems getting the software to work.
 
System b, personal:
 
software:
          plain, LaTeX, SliTeX, both English and German
          StTeX for 2 Meg System by J. Bammi
          Metafont (German PD)
          dvist
          at present no printer driver, I am going to build one myself
hardware:
          Hypercache Mega4, overscan (688x480 pxl on sm124)
          GE-soft SCSI hostadapter, Fujitsu m2614 drive (180 MB)
          HP DeskJet+
 
          I have just thrown away my illegal copy of tools' tex. The
          printer driver will be rebuilt. Metafont runs nicely, no
          problems with installation.
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From: Mike Whitbeck < mikew@wheeler.wrc.unr.edu >
 
1. software
        latex, tex, macros: Bammi's port from dsrgsun.ces.cwru.edu
        pictex: TUG ($35) (drawing macros)
        showdvi: dsrgsun.ces.cwru.edu (previewer)
        fonts: J. Longs, + ??? from dsrgsun.ces.cwru.edu
        bibtex: J. Longs from dsrgsun.ces.cwru.edu  (bib database)
                [off and on (more off) I am working on a port of Tib a
                very slick bib database package]
        mkindex: from dsrgsun.ces.cwru.edu (?) index builder
 
2. hardware
        office: Megafile 30 hard disk,
                sm124 (mono),
                1040ST connected (UNITERM) to a SUN 3,
                        these printers are on the Sun's ethernet and I
                        print from the Sun:
                        apple laser writer, imagen (now dead, s-o-kay I like
                        PS better, soon an HPLJ II will be plumbed in )
        home:   same as above EXCEPT sm1224 (color) monitor + Omnires
                emulator, FA_ST ICD 30 hard drive (till it bites the dust).
 
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                          Some ftp sites
 
dsrgsun.ces.cwru.edu       129.22.16.2     Atari TeX stuff (and more)
terminator.cc.umich.edu    35.1.33.8       Atari TeX stuff (and more)
score                      36.8.0.46       TeX stuff
sun.soe.clarkson.edu       128.153.12.3    TeX stuff
science.utah.edu           128.110.192.2   TeX stuff, Hershey fonts
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 ? ___________________________________________________________
 ? |Mike Whitbeck             | mikew@wheeler.wrc.unr.edu    |
 ? |__________________________|__RENO___NEVADA_______________|
 
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Date: 21 Feb 90 18:24:18 GMT
From: att!drutx!druwa!dvac@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (Daniel Vachon)
Subject: Atari ST Sequencers
Message-ID: <4648@druwa.ATT.COM>
 
Scenario: If I was to get a 1040ST, I would want to use it to do some
sequencing in a live situation.....  Is there any sequencing software
available for the 1040ST that would allow us to do the following stuff:
 
* Trigger a sequence externally from another MIDI device such as a
  drum pad, or MIDI foot controller.
 
* Able to have multiple sequences loaded at a time, and trigger them
  individually of each other.  Say for instance the beginning of a tune
  and the ending of a tune have some keys... Trigger the starting sequence
  with one Midi trigger, and trigger the second sequence with a second midi
  trigger.
 
* Have a metronome (click track) type of thing for an earphone monitor for
  the drummer (like 4 or 8 beats before the sequence starts).
 
 
I think the things I have listed above are in the order of importance.... SO,
is there anything out there for the ST that'll do this for me?
 
Please reply in e-mail if you can, and thanks in advance for any help!
 
Later - Dan Vachon -   !att!druwa!dvac
 
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Date: 23 Feb 90 04:23:47 GMT
From: brunix!rjd@uunet.uu.net  (Rob Demillo)
Subject: Attention: Johann Ruegg
Message-ID: <30324@brunix.UUCP>
 
Sorry to all for posting this here, but...
 
Johann Ruegg: because of your address path, my mailer cannot
return a message to you. I have the information you need, please
give me a call at the number below, or email me your phone number.
 
-- Rob
 
 
 - Rob DeMillo                  | Internet: rjd@brown.cs.edu
   Brown University             | BITnet: DEMILLO%BRNPSG.SPAN@STAR.STANFORD.EDU
   Planetary Science Group      | Reality: 401-273-0804 (home)
"I say you *are* the Messiah, Lord! And I ought to know, I've followed a few!"
 
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Date: 22 Feb 90 20:28:12 GMT
From: unhd!psc90!pyr579@uunet.uu.net  (Stephan Cleaves)
Subject: Color and Mono
Message-ID: <1181@psc90.UUCP>
 
Hello,
 
     The are to my knowledge two such programs which allow mono vision
on an ST color monitor. The only one I've ever seen is Omniview, I will
say however that even though it is capable of many tasks, not all software
will work, and it certainly isn't near mono res. Why not just buy a mono
monitor, they are $200, and a Monitor Master switch is $40
This omniview package goes for about 60 - 70 dollars.
 
Stephan Cleaves PSC (pyr579@psc90.UUCP)
 
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Date: 23 Feb 90 04:36:28 GMT
From: samsung!cs.utexas.edu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!utgpu!barry@think.com
 (Barry Lay)
Subject: Containing the mouse
Message-ID: <1990Feb23.043628.13028@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca>
 
I wish to keep the mouse cursor within a specific rectangle on the screen.
I am sure that I am just missing something, but I can't find any GEM calls
which will set the cursor to a particular position.  If I can do that, I can
keep an eye on the location of the mouse as returned by evnt_multi() and
adjust as necessary.  I am sure that this is possible because GEM does it
when animating the scroll boxes for windows.
 
Barry
 
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Date: 22 Feb 90 22:34:25 GMT
From: mcsun!sunic!nuug!ifi!ifi.uio.no!kjetilho@uunet.uu.net  (Kjetil Torgrim
 Homme)
Subject: Foreign exchange (was Re: Shareware Policy.)
Message-ID: <2631@ifi.uio.no>
 
Rainer Klute writes:
 
>   What shall I do with the cheque? I shall not take it to a
>   bank to receive the money. They will charge me at least
>   about DM 17 (ca. US$ 10)! Instead: I shall send it to my
>   Postgiroamt. They will perform something called "simplified
>   foreign cheque draw in" (my attempt to translate office
>   german into english, sorry). This costs only DM 0.80!
 
I agree with him that this is an easy way of transfering money.
However, if both parties have postal giro accounts (or whatever
they are called in English), this is absolutely free, and
the currency of the cheque doesn't matter at all. Even the postage
is free!
 
Even if the receiver hasn't got an account, the fee is only
1/5 of what a bank charges. He will then receive a cheque from
a well-reputed bank, like Lloyds in the UK, I believe.
 
I've always wondered why payment by postal giro isn't more
popular. Isn't this system available in UK, USA, France etc.?
I know that it is in the Scandinavian countries.
 
To sum up -
 
IF have_account%=TRUE THEN
  PRINT account_number% : REM We all benefit!
ELSE
  IF FNsystem_available THEN
    PROCget_account
    PRINT account_number%
  ENDIF
ENDIF
 
(Pascal-, C-, BCPL-enthusiasts etc. will have to mail me to get
an alternate version of the above code :-)
 
BTW - I'm sorry, but I won't try to send you any money, because I
don't even know what arcgsh is! Perhaps that's self-evident to other
people... :-)
 
   ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
  //  Kjetil T. Homme  // "I always read between the lies" //
 //  Norway           // (Goodman Ace)                    //
///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
 
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Date: Thu, 22 Feb 90 21:59:00 EST
From: Greg Csullog <01659%AECLCR.bitnet@ugw.utcs.utoronto.ca>
Subject: Portfolio developers kit???
Message-ID: <90Feb22.222234est.58748@ugw.utcs.utoronto.ca>
 
The entrepeneur that I said was looking for info on programming the Portfolio
called Atari USA. When the call was answered, he requested that he not be put
on hold because of the very long distance he was calling but, guess what,
hold city!! When someone finally fielded his call, he was advised to call the
800 line for info. After he explained that this line was not reachable from
Canada, he was transferred to, supposedly, a tech support person. Again he
was advised to call the 800 line and again he explained why he could not.
 
He related his request about developing equipment with the Portfolio as a
controller and was told that a developer's kit existed. He was further told
that codes were to be written on a standard PC and ported to the Portfolio.
When he asked for details the tech person said that he had none, he had only
heard about the package.
 
C'mon Atari, if you want to sell computers then support legitimate requests
for info. Does a developer's package exist or not? If so, what about a part
number to order it. Has anyone on the net seen the package?
 
I would appreciate it if someone from Atari who accesses this net would pass
my posting onto a tech div. of Atari so that this matter can be clarified.
Let's see how Atari stands behind its product with support.
 
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Date: 22 Feb 90 23:05:46 GMT
From: zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!samsung!hubdub!ain1496e@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu
Subject: STe in Canada - Where?
Message-ID: <18603.25e4704a@merrimack.edu>
 
 
  I remember seeing somethint about th STe being available in Canada.
 
  If this is true can people mail me the name/address of dealers in Canada
  that have the STe and if available the price (specify us or canadian dollars)
 
                   Thanks for any info
 
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