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INFO-ATARI16 Digest         Wed, 21 Feb 90       Volume 90 : Issue  241
 
Today's Topics:
                   Booting PC Speed from Hard Disk
                         Bug in TURBO-C V1.0
                             DEAD MAILER
                  GEM programming in Personal Pascal
                              ICD RateHD
                      Make my STe sweat...?????
                         Printmaster For Sale
                            PYRO (2 msgs)
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Date: Wed, 21 Feb 90 16:17:00 EST
From: Greg Csullog <01659%AECLCR.bitnet@ugw.utcs.utoronto.ca>
Subject: Booting PC Speed from Hard Disk
Message-ID: <90Feb21.162149est.58457@ugw.utcs.utoronto.ca>
 
The following describes the sequence I went through to try and get
PC Speed to boot DOS from my SH204 drive (which, incidentally, did not
work).
 
1. PC Speed software installed on drive C: (TOS HDX boot)
 
2. PC_INST.PRG used to assign DOS C: = TOS D:
                              DOS D: = TOS C:
 
3. run PC Speed and boot DOS 3.2 from A:
 
4. format C:/s (this put IO.SYS,MSDOS.SYS and COMMAND.COM on my
   TOS D: partition which PC Speed was told was my DOS C: partition
   (from step 2)
 
5. exit back to GEM and re-run PC_INST.PRG to set boot from HD.
 
6. re-run PC Speed and  ZIP, the system just hangs.
 
What did I do wrong?
 
I am still getting stack overflow messages if I switch menus in dBASE III
Plus too fast (takes more effort than before I resoldered my board socket
but it still happens). Any PC Speed specialists on the NET to address my
problems?
 
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Date: 21 Feb 90 20:47:44 GMT
From: agate!stew.ssl.berkeley.edu!ericco@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (Eric C. Olson)
Subject: Bug in TURBO-C V1.0
Message-ID: <1990Feb21.204744.560@agate.berkeley.edu>
 
roland@cochise.pcs.com (Roland Rambau) writes:
>hcj@lzsc.ATT.COM (HC Johnson) writes:
>->> >    #define MAX  -32768
>->> >    main()
>->> >    ?
>->> >    printf("1: %d\n", MAX);
>->> >    printf("2: %d\n", (int)MAX);
>->> >    ?
>->>
>->> This is not a bug, its a feature.  MAX is not a number, its an expression.
>->> Thus, the evaluation of MAX is a long int.  The first printf only prints
>->K&R specify that constants are int's.  Not a long int.
 
Like I said "MAX is not a number, its an expression."  There is an integer
in the expression (the number 32768).  But there is also an operator (the
unary minus).  This makes MAX an expression, not a number.  Thus the real
question is what does K&R say integer expression are evaluated to?  I
don't have K&R handy, but I believe it says long ints.
 
Eric
ericco@ssl.berkeley.edu
 
Eric
ericco@ssl.berkeley.edu
 
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Date: Wed, 21 Feb 90 15:58:00 EST
From: Greg Csullog <01659%AECLCR.bitnet@ugw.utcs.utoronto.ca>
Subject: DEAD MAILER
Message-ID: <90Feb21.160054est.58402@ugw.utcs.utoronto.ca>
 
RE: my request for Portfolio applic. information, our incoming mailer that
routes digest listings to me is dead. Please direct replies to me directly,
it's the only way I can receive info for the time being. Thanks in advance.
 
 
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Date: 21 Feb 90 07:11:05 GMT
From:
 cs.utexas.edu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!torsqnt!lethe!geac!maccs!johns@tut.cis.oh
 io-state.edu  (Conan the Barbarian)
Subject: GEM programming in Personal Pascal
Message-ID: <25E23F0A.12830@maccs.dcss.mcmaster.ca>
 
 
        I've been doing some GEM programming with Personal Pascal
        and have as of yet not had a problem I was not able to figure
        out after a while with a little help.
 
        However, I've got something here I've never seen before.
 
        My program throws up a menu bar then a window, and everything
        is cool.  I realized I need another window, so I coded it up.
        It compiled fine, and it does put the window on the screen nicely,
        but the mouse pointer and the menu bar seem to interfere with
        each other.  Garbage will be left where the mouse pointer pops
        down a menu, and things like that.  Not a pretty sight.
 
        Has anyone ever come across something like this?  I really wonder
        what I'm doing wrong.
 
        Maybe I should have done this in C. :-)
 
--
"After all is said and done,                       John Schmitt
 a lot more is said than done."                    johns@maccs.dcss.mcmaster.ca
Don't blame anybody for what I say.                SCHMITTJ@SCIvax.mcmaster.ca
 
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Date: Wed, 21 Feb 90 20:30:33 GMT
From: Chris Ridd <RiddCJ%computer-science.birmingham.ac.uk@nsfnet-relay.ac.uk>
Subject: ICD RateHD
Message-ID: <9002212030.aa00488@benjamin.Cs.Bham.AC.UK>
 
I tried the RateHD a day or so ago - it is supposed to determine the speed of
a hard disk *independant* of the OS slowing it down (:-).  Anyway - I tried it
on my Supra, and it gave something like a 40ms access time.  Then I defragged
my root partition (only about 4Megs) and ran it again.  This time, the access
time was only about 36ms!  Has DLII (the defragger used) done something
unexpected to my drive, or has RateHD gone doolally?
 
   Chris
 
-- Chris Ridd, Computer Science, Birmingham Uni, UK -- RiddCJ@Cs.Bham.Ac.Uk --
 
"'It's going to look pretty good, then, isn't it,' said War testily, 'the One
Horseman and Three Pedestrians of the Apocralypse.'" - Sourcery
 
(The new, improved sig! Or it was until I added this line...)
 
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Date: 21 Feb 90 21:12:28 GMT
From: cosc10hv@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov  (Paul Sears)
Subject: Make my STe sweat...?????
Message-ID: <5621.25e2afdc@elroy.uh.edu>
 
In article <27176@cup.portal.com>, Bob_BobR_Retelle@cup.portal.com writes:
> AAron nAAs asked:
>>Anyone in Europe or Canada have programs that will take
>>advantage of the STe's new features?
>
> Bob Brodie from Atari US showed us a 4 Meg STE this weekend, and showed two
> programs for it...
>
> One was a "bouncing ball" demo from Australia, with not so great graphics
> (it was designed for a 50hz PAL system, so they might have been great, but
> we didn't get to see them that way), and some really great sound by way of th
> PCM digital sound output of the STE.... (AXEL-F from Beverly Hills Cop in
> stereo...!)
>
> The other was a game written by Atari's game division in Chicago... it was
> a "River Raid" kind of thing called "Whitewater... (Something or Other)"
> and came on two disks.. the first disk booted, started up the music and then
> rather imperiously demanded, in a digitized voice, "DISK B...  DISK B..."
>
> While Bob declared, rather frankly, "I wouldn't buy this game," several peopl
> who had a chance to play it at the MACE user group meeting said it wasn't bad
> in fact, there were several requests for copies. (Unfortunately it won't run
> on anything other than an STE...)
>
> When asked, Bob said Atari has no current plans to market the game.  Someone
> at the meeting did mention another commercial release of a game for the STE,
> whose title escapes me though, at 3AM....
>
>>P.S.  My STe is Serial number 310, bought in Canada, and label
>>        says that its a US machine!!
>
> Bob told us that what happened to the US STE was that it failed its FCC type
> acceptance tests.  While they redesigned the internal shielding, they shipped
> the already assembled units to Canada for sale there... thus the "U.S."
> label on the unit purchased in Canada....
>
> BobR
>
 
I am new on this  newsgroup.  I have an Atari 520ST upgraded to 1 meg.  I am
aware of the new products that Atari is planning on releasing but this STe is
new to me.   I have only heard of the TT and the Stacey Laptop - unless the STe
is the same as the Stacey....  Someone give me some info...
 
Paul Sears
COSC10HV@Elroy.Uh.Edu
 
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Date: 21 Feb 90 21:32:45 GMT
From:
 elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!rpi!image.soe.clarkson.edu!kle
 hr@decwrl.dec.com  (Thomas J. Klehr)
Subject: Printmaster For Sale
Message-ID: <1990Feb21.213245.9465@sun.soe.clarkson.edu>
 
I have an unused version of Printmaster for the Atari ST that
I have no need for.  If anyone is interested in it, let
me know.
 
Tom
 
--
Thomas J. Klehr
 
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Date: 21 Feb 90 19:27:13 GMT
From: zephyr.ens.tek.com!orca.wv.tek.com!pogo!bluneski@uunet.uu.net  (Bob
 Luneski)
Subject: PYRO
Message-ID: <8589@pogo.WV.TEK.COM>
 
in <25E2519B.5818@paris.ics.uci.edu> Earl Hood writes:
 
>       I got pyro.prg and it works fine and does not seem to conflict
>with any of my programs.  But the problem is that it takes 9 minutes
>of wait for it to activate.  Does any body out there know if it can
>be adjusted to different times or if the program is set with this time.
 
There is an ehanced version of PYRO on genie that allows you to
configure the timeout delay. I now prefer PRYO.PRG to STARSTRK.ACC
because 1) it doesn't seen to interfere with anything the way STARSTRK
does 2) it's an autofolder prg not an acc 3) it's configurable and
4) it's better aesthetically.
 
If there is sufficient interest I can post the configurable version
of PYRO to the binaries.
 
____________________________________________________________________________
  Bob Luneski
  Diamond Back Support Hotline:  bluneski@pogo.WV.TEK.COM
                                 Genie: B.LUNESKI1
 
  The opinions expressed herein are my own and in no way reflect the
  opinions of Tektronix, Inc.
 
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Date: 21 Feb 90 22:18:25 GMT
From:
 zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!samsung!cs.utexas.edu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!neat.cs
 .toronto.edu!omicron.cs.fsu.edu!fsucs.cs.fsu.edu!boyd@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu
 (Mickey Boyd)
Subject: PYRO
Message-ID: <9002212218.AA12834@fsucs.cs.fsu.edu>
 
In article <8589@pogo.WV.TEK.COM>, bluneski@pogo.WV.TEK.COM (Bob Luneski)
 writes:
>
>If there is sufficient interest I can post the configurable version
>of PYRO to the binaries.
>
>____________________________________________________________________________
>  Bob Luneski
>  Diamond Back Support Hotline:  bluneski@pogo.WV.TEK.COM
>                                 Genie: B.LUNESKI1
 
I am interested.  I am sure others are too.
 
 
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