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INFO-ATARI16 Digest         Fri,  9 Feb 90       Volume 90 : Issue  181
 
Today's Topics:
                          3.5" disks needed!
                              Geneology
                         Hard drive question
                          SAMPLING/RECORDING
                       ST S/ware Rental Places
                       TOS io redirection bugs
                Wierd and Wacky Power Supply Problem.
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Date: 9 Feb 90 16:04:32 GMT
From:
 zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sunybcs!uhura.cc.rochester.edu!ur-valhalla!moscom!tmb
 @tut.cis.ohio-state.edu  (Tom Bellucco)
Subject: 3.5" disks needed!
Message-ID: <2013@moscom.UUCP>
 
Help!!  For the past couple years, I've been buying bulk 3.5" DSDD disks from
MEI/MicroCenter.  I've bought THOUSANDS of disks from them, starting when they
were $1 per disk.  Now they are $.45 per disk and they are shit.  Out of each
200 I buy, at least 50-75 of them won't format DS.  I figure they are just
using SS disks (because the SS disks are the same price).  Back when the
disks were from $.70 - $1 each, they were great disks and it was a great deal.
Now it sucks having to return disks only to get more bad ones.  Some of these
disks have "marks" (look like scratches) across the media that I just wonder
is doing to my drive.
 
I need to find a place that sells bulk DSDD disks, GOOD disks at a good price.
I buy, on the average, 100 a month.
 
And to think, Computer Shopper says MEI is the people's choice for best value.
HA!  They haven't responded to my letters.  When I call, they always ask what
kind of computer I have, then tell me to send them back to be cheerfully
replaced.  I want them to be good the first time!
 
Anyone with recommendations, please mail me.  Thanks.
 
--
 Tom Bellucco - moscom!tmb@cs.rochester.edu  or  ?...?!rochester!moscom!tmb
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Date: 9 Feb 90 22:46:18 GMT
From: unsvax!uns-helios!blake@uunet.uu.net  (RAWLIN BLAKE)
Subject: Geneology
Message-ID: <1225@unsvax.NEVADA.EDU>
 
In article <1272@lzsc.ATT.COM> hcj@lzsc.ATT.COM (HC Johnson) writes:
>I am looking for a good geneology (family tree) program.
>Anyone out there use one or more of them, and if so, what
>are your opinions of:
>       ease of entry
>       ability to edit or add to existing entries
>       outputs
>
>Thank you
 
 
The best package I am aware of is PAF from the LDS church.  Not only
is it very powerful, but it has a excellent manual, and is CHEAP!!
 
PAF may be ordered from:
 
Salt Lake Distribution Center
1999 West 1700 South
Salt Lake City, UT 84104
 
1-800-537-5950   (credit card orders)
 
Price is $35.00 including shipping and handling
 
PAF is available in Macintosh and MSDOS (both 3.5" and 5.25" formats)
Specify disk size when ordering.
 
The manual for this package is excellent. However, if you have any
questions there are phone numbers in the front of the manual to call,
or you could look up the local Family History Library (Center) in your
phone book under Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.  If they
are anything like the center here (Las Vegas), the volunteers there
will know of people who can answer just about any question you can
think of.
 
If you have any more questions, or need more help in acquiring the
package please feel free to contact me again and I will help you in
any way I can.
 
        Rawlin Blake     <blake@nevada.edu>
 
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Date: 9 Feb 90 22:51:44 GMT
From: portal!portal!cup.portal.com!Henry_Burdett_Messenger@apple.com
Subject: Hard drive question
Message-ID: <26768@cup.portal.com>
 
    Earlier replies speculate on the Supra 20 internal configuration.
 
    I have a Supra 10 and it is a Xebec Owl (integrated drive) connected
    to Supra'a DMA-SCSI adapter. And the 10 is older than the 20. My
    guess would be that it is an integrated drive.
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Henry B. Messenger                    henry_burdett_messenger@cup.portal.com
 
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Date: 9 Feb 90 21:43:08 GMT
From:
 pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uwm.edu!carroll1!dnewton@t
 ut.cis.ohio-state.edu  (Dave Newton the Late)
Subject: SAMPLING/RECORDING
Message-ID: <1176@carroll1.cc.edu>
 
In article <90020906104235@masnet.uucp> barry.manning@canremote.uucp (BARRY
 MANNING) writes:
:Anyone really knowledgeable out there know if there are yet any
:inexpensive samplers coming out with a spec. as follows:
:  1.  16 bit A/D/A conversion.
:  2.  Driven by ST midi port
:  3.  Sequencer to St midi port to sampler.
:  4.  8 RCA outputs
:  5.  500 dollars
:  6.  Supports a database of sound files on an ST drive
:The 8 bit just dont do the job.
 
   Umm, not quite yet.  I should think it will be awhile before this happens.
 
--
David L. Newton                 |           uunet!marque!carroll1!dnewton
(414) 524-7343 (work)           |              dnewton@carroll1.cc.edu
(414) 524-6809 (home)           |           100 NE Ave, Waukesha WI 53186
 
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Date: 9 Feb 90 22:20:23 GMT
From: hpl-opus!hpnmdla!hpsad!randyh@hplabs.hp.com  (Randy Hosler)
Subject: ST S/ware Rental Places
Message-ID: <750048@hpsad.HP.COM>
 
  I used to belong to a users group in this area (Santa Rosa, CA) and there
was no piracy allowed there either.
 
However, drifting a little further, I have some questions about UGs.
 
Specifically, how much does your UG charge for PD disks?  This group
would charge $5 for members and $10 for non-members to buy a PD disk.
 
Is this typical?  Mail order disks can cost this much.  I would think
that UGs would benifit the user a little more as far as PD prices are
concerned.
 
----
Randy Hosler
 
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Date: 9 Feb 90 18:50:52 GMT
From: mcsun!unido!sbsvax!roeder@uunet.uu.net  (Edgar Roeder)
Subject: TOS io redirection bugs
Message-ID: <2712@sbsvax.cs.uni-sb.de>
 
In article <BAMMI.90Feb6182843@curie.ces.CWRU.Edu>, bammi@curie.ces.CWRU.Edu
 (Jwahar R. Bammi) writes:
> In article <9001301152.AA03348@freya.dmswwu-ether> ONM07@DMSWWU1A.BITNET
 (Julian Reschke) writes:
> dale:
>    > 2 is a tty.  If is IS, then Fforce() it to -1 to attach it to the
 console.
> Julian:
>    But this will fail if you try to redirect handle 2 to PRN:! Correct me if
>    I'm wrong...
>
> thats correct, but dales suggestion is still fine. its isatty() that
> needs to be fixed up, so that it does'nt think that PRN: isatty().
 
Here are my two cents:
What if the user wants to redirect handle 2 stderr to the serial port (AUX:)?
Since this is the default assignment for this handle it will be difficult to
manage this case too.
I had two applications for this. Some time ago i wanted to debug a full screen
editor (not emacs :- ) and have sent the debug output to a PC clone. I needed
this output while i was testing the program, not later. Therefore i could not
use a file. The second application needs to redirect all standard handles
(stdin, stdout, stderr). It's a program to run eg. games in a mailbox (for
example nethack). Then stderr IS a terminal, but not the console. And the
mailbox user will not like to play on the console screen (unless he/she is
clear-sighted :-) or sitting before the console).
 
> --
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> domain: bammi@dsrgsun.ces.CWRU.edu
> GEnie:        J.Bammi
 
        - Edgar
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Date: 10 Feb 90 01:01:12 GMT
From: usenet.ins.cwru.edu!picasso!pietrzak@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu  (John
 Pietrzak)
Subject: Wierd and Wacky Power Supply Problem.
Message-ID: <1990Feb10.010112.20560@usenet.ins.cwru.edu>
 
In article <9002090802.AA05355@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> AMEIJ@vax.oxford.ac.UK (Jan
 Ameij) writes:
>
>Long live the European Third World (insult copyright RC, 1990!)
>
>Jan Ameij
 
   Now, don't go thinking everyone on this side of the pond is just like RC -
not everyone can be quite as adept with the repartee. ;-)
 
   J P         pietrzak@ces.cwru.edu
 
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