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Today's Topics:
                          gdos and opus 2.0
                  Help with Sozobon / Cure & thanks
                       Mark Williams C (2 msgs)
                            STE questions?
                       ST S/ware Rental Places
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Date: 22 Jan 90 23:12:47 GMT
From: tahoe!wheeler!mikew@apple.com  (Mike Whitbeck)
Subject: gdos and opus 2.0
Message-ID: <3487@tahoe.unr.edu>
 
I just gave opus 2.0 a try and can't seem to get the caharting
portion to work. The drop down menu is disabled.
 
I have gdos 1.8 installed but the assigner.prg that came with
the opus arc complains mightily. Here is my assign.sys file:
 
path = C:\\AUTO\\               ;Pathname for hard drive set drive id and
;                        path IF REQUIRED IE. C:\GDOS\. IF LEFT ON
;                        THE ROOT DIRECTORY OF THE BOOT DRIVE NO
;                        CHANGE IS NECESSARY
01p screen.sys          ;Default screen
02p screen.sys          ;Low-resolution screen
03p screen.sys          ;Medium-resolution screen
04p screen.sys          ;High-resolution screen
21 fx80.sys
31 meta.sys
 
 
Somewhere I also have a file std.fnt (came with gdos in
athenaII).
 
 
What files do I need to use opus with it's charting feature?
 
If I buy GPLUS+ will I get everything I need (fonts, etc) ?
(What does GPUS+ do for me anyway? what comes in the package?)
 
signed,
        Confused-by-GDOS-in-NV
 
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Date: 18 Jan 90 17:25:23 GMT
From: mcsun!sunic!tut!router!fintuvm.bitnet!t6m-riit@uunet.uu.net
Subject: Help with Sozobon / Cure & thanks
Message-ID: <1038T6M-RIIT@FINTUVM>
 
Thanx ..
 
. everybody who replied to my plea for help with Sozobon (Andreas, Barry,
Gregory, Bill, Steve and anybody else who couldn't reach me in time).
 
As most of you correctly pointed out, PCommand really was the evil part,
probably turning all lower case stuff upper thus ruining the commands.
Should've tried Gulam in the first place but PCommand seemed easier...
Well, you get what you ask for...
 
I didn't quite get the makefile format yet but I guess it'll be found -
at least the stuff works now. I compiled hello.c very successfully and
tried also the quix (comp.sources.atari.st) source - went down OK.
 
 
                                        Thanks again.. see ya!
 
                                                - Jari
 
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Date: 22 Jan 90 20:07:21 GMT
From:
 cs.utexas.edu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!utgpu!watserv1!watdragon!tiger!swklassen@
 tut.cis.ohio-state.edu  (Steven W. Klassen)
Subject: Mark Williams C
Message-ID: <20044@watdragon.waterloo.edu>
 
In article <756@nadia.UUCP> marauder@nadia.UUCP (Stefan Hess) writes:
>Somebody told me that MW has stopped development of MWC on the ST. Does
>anybody know if this is true ? I would hate it if there wouldn't be an
>ANSI version of MWC.
 
I hadn't heard this but I will call them and find out!
I'll post their response.
 
 
 
 
Steven W. Klassen                       +-----------------------------+
Computer Science Major                  | Support the poor...buy fur! |
University of Waterloo                  +-----------------------------+
 
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Date: 22 Jan 90 19:49:23 GMT
From: hpda!athertn!alex@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (Alex Leavens)
Subject: Mark Williams C
Message-ID: <16997@laurel.athertn.Atherton.COM>
 
>Stefan Hess writes:
>Somebody told me that MW has stopped development of MWC on the ST. Does
>anybody know if this is true ? I would hate it if there wouldn't be an
>ANSI version of MWC.
 
When I last called tech support, they told me that the person who was
responsible for the ST version of the compiler had quit and that they
were actively looking for a new compiler person.  There was no indication
that they were not going to support the compiler in the future.  I expect
that there'll probably be a delay in the next release, since it takes
time to hand off something like that to a new person...
 
 
 
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|--alex | alex@Atherton.COM |  Caution!  Falling Opinions, next 6 miles   |
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Date: 19 Jan 90 00:51:31 GMT
From: mcsun!ukc!newcastle.ac.uk!turing!q1cbw@uunet.uu.net  (D.C. Halliday)
Subject: STE questions?
Message-ID: <1990Jan19.005131.16601@newcastle.ac.uk>
 
Question 1.
 
Are  the SIMM modules in the STE of a standard type, as I have seen an
ad for SIMM modules for these machines ...
 
Amstrad,AST,DELL,EPSON,EVEREX,HP,INTEL,IBM,SUN... etc of the following
types.
 
                 Memory X bits     Speed
                 ---------------------------------
                    256Kx8   100ns or 80ns
                    256Kx9   100ns or 80ns or 60ns
                    1Mx8     100ns or 80ns or 70ns
                    1Mx9     100ns or 80ns or 70ns
                    4Mx8     80ns
                    4Mx9     80ns
 
So  which  of  these are of use and how can I mix them. I know the STE
has four SIMM slots. I think the 520STE (yes ATARI UK are  shipping  a
520  version)  has  boards in all slots (is this 128Kx8 ?). To install
these I assume it is simply a case of plug in and go.
 
Question 2.
 
I  have heard that the STE can access more memory than the ST. 8mb was
quoted by a person at Third Coast. Is this  correct?  Does  this  meen
that each of the SIMM slots is a seperate bank? Could I put 4 cards of
4Mx8 and get 16M of memory? So how does TOS 1.6 access its memory?
 
Question 3.
 
A  FOFT  (friend  of  a friend tale) has it that there are already two
versions of the STE. One for the 520STE and one 1040STE. Is this true?
If so why the difference?
 
The  STE is a great machine and deserves to do well, anxiously looking
forward to the TT. Keep up the good work Atari.
 
Dave H.
 
(d.c.halliday@newcastle.ac.uk)
 
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Date: 23 Jan 90 00:15:42 GMT
From:
 zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!aplcen!haven!uvaarpa!murdoch!
 astsun8.astro.Virginia.EDU!gl8f@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu  (Greg Lindahl)
Subject: ST S/ware Rental Places
Message-ID: <1990Jan23.001542.7493@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
 
In article <26232@brunix.UUCP> rjd@cs.brown.edu (Rob Demillo) writes:
>
>OK, Greg...you're a great guy. You'll *never* "borrow" software,
>then copy it for yourself to keep. I'll accept that.
>
>My accepting that fact from you is a *far* cry from condoning a
>place taht "rents" software.
 
Fine. So don't say that *every* place that rents software should be
run out of business because of the actions of a few.
 
That's all I ask. I won't respond to the rest of your posting because
it was a rehash of old arguments, except for this:
 
>You want to test out the product? Do it in the store. If you want to
>"test it out" for several days, that's several days worth of use you
>have placed on the product. If you are going to do that, why not
>send away for a products'  demo copy? If its a large package, they
>are sure to have something, if its a small package - you're just
>out of luck, aren't you?
 
Not all products have demo versions. Maple does not, it is a large
package, and it costs large amounts of money. It's stupid to tell
me I cannot demo Maple for several days in my own home just because
you're scared I'll steal it. If a friend had Maple and were willing
to lend it to me for a few days I bet you'd think that was bad
too?
 
>...but, as I said earlier, because you're a great guy, doesn't
>me you can claim that software rental places haven't hurt the software
>market...
 
I never said that. I said software rental as a concept is not bad, and
that while some software rental places are pirate havens, it is not
necessarily true that all are.
 
I hope this discussion ends here. We are repeating ourselves, and you
are missing my point.
 
 
 
Greg Lindahl
gl8f@virginia.edu                                  Astrophysicists for Choice.
 
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