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INFO-ATARI16 Digest         Sat, 17 Feb 90       Volume 90 : Issue  221
 
Today's Topics:
                    Anyone know about MT C-shell?
                           Dave Small (GBS)
                             FORMDIAL.PRG
                      graphics file translators?
                         Make my STe sweat...
                  PageStream 1.8 virus (not a rumor)
                          Shareware Policy.
                  Supra Modem 2400 and more for sale
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Date: 17 Feb 90 18:27:32 GMT
From: cs.utexas.edu!uwm.edu!carroll1!dnewton@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu  (Dave
 Newton the Late)
Subject: Anyone know about MT C-shell?
Message-ID: <1222@carroll1.cc.edu>
 
In article <20967@ditka.UUCP> rcb@ditka.UUCP (Roy Bixler) writes:
>So, I only know what the advertisement said about MT C-shell, which was
>that it is multi-user, multi-tasking, runs GEM programs and as an
>option, UUCP is available.  Sounds good (maybe too good).  Is it really
>multi-user, multi-tasking? I doubt this because someone told me that he
>didn't think the Motorola 68000 chip had memory protection mode and, in
>light of that, it would be impossible for a 68000 to run multi-user.
 
   Well, MT C-shell is at the least multi-tasking, I believe it was written
with the Micro-RTX multi-tasking OS extension, which I know for a fact is
multi-tasking.  As to whether or no the C-shell is inherently multi-user,
that I don't know, but if it can multi-task, it can support another user if
you write the code.
   The 68000 has user and supervisor modes, but this has nothing to do with
multi-tasking.  Any microprocessor can multitask, just look at MP/M (a
multi-user, multi-tasking C/PM thing).  It ran on a Z80, which didn't have
much of anything.
 
--
David L. Newton                 |           uunet!marque!carroll1!dnewton
(414) 524-7343 (work)           |              dnewton@carroll1.cc.edu
(414) 524-6809 (home)           |           100 NE Ave, Waukesha WI 53186
 
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Date: 17 Feb 90 18:13:56 GMT
From: well!dhawk@apple.com  (David Hawkins)
Subject: Dave Small (GBS)
Message-ID: <16232@well.sf.ca.us>
 
jjsf@gmv.es (Julio Sanchez) writes:
>    ritchie@hpldola.HP.COM (Dave Ritchie) writes:
>>>Anyone got a reliable mail address for Dave Small that I can use from the UK?
>>>I have tried 'dsmall@uucp.well' and the long 'un with the 'relay' bit. But
>>>my messages keep bouncing. I am trying to contact you Dave!
 
>>   You might try 'dsmall@well.uucp' instead.....
 
Hmm, maybe we need a monthly posting of Dave Small's email address?
                               ;-)
 
dsmall@well.sf.ca.us
 
which is a registered domain.
 
later, david
--
David Hawkins - dhawk@well.sf.ca.us - ?apple,pacbell,hplabs,ucbvax?!well!dhawk
There are two insults no human being will endure: that he has no sense of
humor, and that he has never known trouble.  -- Sinclair Lewis, "Main Street"
 
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Date: 17 Feb 90 14:51:46 GMT
From: motcsd!motsj1!mcdchg!chinet!saj@apple.com  (Stephen Jacobs)
Subject: FORMDIAL.PRG
Message-ID: <1990Feb17.145146.3857@chinet.chi.il.us>
 
I didn't follow right away, but now maybe I understand.  It's the nature of
dialog boxes that the program state is different after using one.  Sometimes
the state is unstable (perhaps there's a new working copy of a string which
needs to be validated and moved to the permanent string).  Sometimes the
display needs to be changed (consider choosing different display sizes in a
page layout program).  It's very tempting to assume that these functions will
only be needed after a redraw is requested at the end of a dialog.  If FORMDIAL
suppresses that, and if those functions are folded into the redraw code,
confusion would result.  The problem is one that becomes acute in multitasking:
anything may change under you without notice, at any time.
                                   Steve J.
 
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Date: 17 Feb 90 21:09:22 GMT
From: zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!rpi!leah!deo358@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu  (Damon
 Osgood)
Subject: graphics file translators?
Message-ID: <2557@leah.Albany.Edu>
 
Can anyone point me in the direction of a PD program to
translate TIFF files into something readable by Publishing Partner,
such as DEGAS or .TNY (whatever THAT is...)?
 
Thanks,
 
 
Damon Osgood
SUNY Albany
 
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Date: 17 Feb 90 20:10:00 GMT
From:
 zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!samsung!umich!caen.engin.umich.edu!chrisl@tut.cis.ohi
 o-state.edu  (Chris Lang)
Subject: Make my STe sweat...
Message-ID: <48b40bcb.8e5a@xr4ti.engin.umich.edu>
 
In article <1990Feb16.214425.8758@sun.soe.clarkson.edu>
 opielask@clutx.clarkson.edu writes:
>Anyone in Europe or Canada have programs that will take
>advantage of the STe's new features?
 
Am I missing something crucial, or does this not belong in rec.games.frp?
 
 - Chris
----
Chris Lang    University of Michigan, College of Engineering
home: 4622 Bursley             work: National Center for Manufacturing Sciences
      Ann Arbor, MI  48109           900 Victors Way, Suite 226
      (313) 763-1832                 Ann Arbor, MI  48108
chrisl@caen.engin.umich.edu          (313) 995-0300
"I hate quotations.  Tell me what you know."  - Ralph Waldo Emerson
 
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Date: 16 Feb 90 16:18:09 GMT
From: cs.dal.ca!silvert@uunet.uu.net  (William Silvert)
Subject: PageStream 1.8 virus (not a rumor)
Message-ID: <1990Feb16.161809.16602@cs.dal.ca>
 
In article <9906@ttidca.TTI.COM> woodside@ttidcb.tti.com (George Woodside)
 writes:
>In article <28923@brunix.UUCP> rjd@cs.brown.edu (Rob Demillo) writes:
>...[edited]...
>>This is directly from the horse's mouth, as it were...the statement
>>was issued by SoftLogik, Inc. to the ST Report. It the statement it
>>is refered to as the "key virus." (Anyone hear of this?) Any of the
>>anti-virus programs should take care of it, but Soft Logik is,
>>of course, exchanging disks if you are nervous.
>
>The "KEY" virus is the most widespread virus in the USA. That is
>because it displays no symptoms, it only spreads. It represents
>two dangers:
>1) It spreads to every disk that passes through the ST while the
>virus is active, thus wiping out existing executable boot sectors
>on disks which must have them. This can render a disk which must
>be self-booting useless.
>
>2) It is called the "KEY" virus because, once installed in a
>system, it checks every passing disk for a "KEY" value in the
>boot sector. If it locates one, it will cause the execution of
>whatever code is on that disk, even if the machine is not being
>powered up or reset at the time the "KEY" disk is located. There
>have been no episodes of a "KEY" disk being located reported, to
>date. That doesn't mean they don't exist. That only means that
>I haven't heard of them, or the victim of whatever the "KEY" did
>was not aware of the cause (which is quite likely, if such an event
>has occurred).
>
>Every virus killer I've seen (or written, of course) will eradicate
>this virus.
>
>--
>* George R. Woodside - Citicorp/TTI - Santa Monica, CA *
>* Path:       woodside@ttidca                          *
>*   or:       ..!?philabs|csun|psivax?!ttidca!woodside *
 
 
--
Bill Silvert, Habitat Ecology Division.
Bedford Institute of Oceanography, Dartmouth, NS, Canada B2Y 4A2
UUCP: ...!?uunet,watmath?!dalcs!biomel!bill
Internet: bill%biomel@cs.dal.CA         BITNET: bill%biomel%dalcs@dalac
 
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Date: 16 Feb 90 16:11:33 GMT
From: cs.dal.ca!silvert@uunet.uu.net  (William Silvert)
Subject: Shareware Policy.
Message-ID: <1990Feb16.161133.16110@cs.dal.ca>
 
In article <1969@laura.UUCP> klute@heike.informatik.uni-dortmund.de (Rainer
 Klute) writes:
>>Back to one of the initial problems, Rainer -- how do we in Canada get a
>>shareware registration fee to you. (I don't even know what the account
>>number you refer to in your ARCGSH messages is for!)
>
>Money transfer should not be any problem at all for
>huge amounts of money are shoveled around the world permanently
>within a few minutes.
>
> .....
>
>To transfer money to me you should take the information above,
>walk to your bank and ask the clerk how to do it. They are the
>experts, they really should know. I would like to hear
>how/whether you succeeded!
 
I run into this problem frequently, since I go to a lot of foreign conferences
and they often specify that the registration fees are to be transferred to a
Postgiro account.  If you are transferring several thousand dollars this is
great, but it is not the way N. Americans transfer funds, so if you go to any
bank I have tried you will find that the handling fee is much larger than the
usual shareware payment.
 
Basically we use cheques and money orders, sent by mail.  This seems to be the
cheapest method by far.  If anyone else has info on sending money to foreign
countries (outside Canada and the US that is), please post it.
--
Bill Silvert, Habitat Ecology Division.
Bedford Institute of Oceanography, Dartmouth, NS, Canada B2Y 4A2
UUCP: ...!?uunet,watmath?!dalcs!biomel!bill
Internet: bill%biomel@cs.dal.CA         BITNET: bill%biomel%dalcs@dalac
 
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Date: 17 Feb 90 17:40:11 GMT
From:
 uc!nic.MR.NET!thor.acc.stolaf.edu!agnes.acc.stolaf.edu!movold@tut.cis.ohio-stat
 e.edu
Subject: Supra Modem 2400 and more for sale
Message-ID: <11324@thor.acc.stolaf.edu>
 
I am selling...
 
Supra Modem 2400:  $90
Digisound ST (sound digitizer for Atari ST):  $50
GTS-100 drive: $135
 
also, software such as Interlink ($15) and quite a few games ($8-$15)
 
        -Erik
 
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