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INFO-ATARI16 Digest         Thu,  4 Jan 90       Volume 90 : Issue   12
 
Today's Topics:
                       Atari ST PD ham software
                           Genlock inquiry
                            Shareware MAC
                          SLM804 / HP LJIIp
                                  TT
                     USEnet on GEnie...a followup
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Date: 4 Jan 90 17:49:29 GMT
From: fox!portal!atari!mn@apple.com  (Mike Nowicki)
Subject: Atari ST PD ham software
Message-ID: <1923@atari.UUCP>
 
  Two good sources of public domain ham radio/swl software for the
Atari ST ---
 
 
Atari Microcomputer Network
John Adams, KC5FW
17106 Happy Hollow
San Antonio, TX 78232
USA
 
 
ASTUR (Atari ST Users on Radio)
GEERAERT Michel
W. Elsschotlann 21
B-8460 Kokijde
Belgium
 
 
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|  Michael Nowicki   N6LUU      Atari Corp,Sunnyvale CA     /TT/UNIX/X team  |
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|  char *disclaimer="  Views expressed are my own, not my employer's";       |
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Date: 4 Jan 90 15:27:24 GMT
From: att!dptg!lzsc!hcj@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (HC Johnson)
Subject: Genlock inquiry
Message-ID: <1207@lzsc.ATT.COM>
 
In article <3228@lmrc.uucp>, hassinger@lmrc.uucp writes:
> In article <678@alias.UUCP>, rhardock@alias.UUCP (Ron Hardock) writes:
> > I am interested in trying out some desktop video on
> > either an Amiga, or an Atari TT (or an Atari ATW).
> ...
> > Secondly, it would also be nice if such a system could
> > mix two video signals (from two VCR's) into one.
> > The computer could perhaps control how the mixing is done.
>
> I think in general you are going to find this one is hard, assuming you mean
> mixing the signals as opposed to grabbing a frame.  The outputs of the two
 VCRs
> need to be synchronized before they can be combined the same way the Amiga has
> to be synchronized with an external video signal before its output can be
> combined with it (e.g. Genlock).  The customary way to do this with two VCR
 
Yes, there is a Genlock for MEGA ?24?, and its expensive.
 
I have seen vidi-st at work and it looks promising for many applications.
In my case I am trying to produce "reasonably interisting" home vidio work.
 
Vidi_st can save many frames, and substitute portions of one frame with another.
Also its output can (should be) input to cyber studio.  This software can
record single frames on Smart SONY VCRs and Cameras.
 
If this works, I'll let you know.
 
Howard C. Johnson
ATT Bell Labs
att!lzaz!hcj
hcj@lzaz.att.com
 
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Date: 5 Jan 90 02:35:29 GMT
From: rochester!kodak!elmgate!jdg@rutgers.edu  (Jeff Gortatowsky CUST)
Subject: Shareware MAC
Message-ID: <1183@elmgate.UUCP>
 
In article <89122619395637@masnet.uucp> greg.trice@canremote.uucp (GREG TRICE)
 writes:
>Yes I have, lots of it. What you don't realize is that just because
>Apple needed 128k of code, and N man-years of work doesn't necessarily
>mean that the task at hand needs that. Depending on the skill - and more
>important - insight - of programmers, the same task may result in
>solutions that are very different in code size and time taken. I have
>examples at hand of functionally identical programs, one of which is
>twenty times the size of the other. And the large one probably took
>fifty times as long to debug. I've never disassembled a Mac ROM, so I
>can't give any views on the quality of the code therein, but knowing (a)
>how slow a Mac is and (b) that some at least of the code was written in
>Pascal (probably by some structured programming fetishist) I suspect
>that most of the code is pretty awful.
 
What makes you think the "code" that apple has written is awful? Just speed?
In that event (no pun), the Mac's of new (SE 30, cx etc) are MUCH faster than
any ole' ST in "raw horespower". But, a Mac + clocks at some 7.xx mhz, not
enough for a noticable difference. In disk i/o, there is a definite advantage
in the ST as DMA (direct memory access) is applied to the task. Screen i/o?
The MAC is doin' a WHOLE lot more work than is "visible" to you. And is as
well MUCH more versitile in what can be done. In that "128k of rom" are over
800 functions. Did you know the Mac has fixed point built in to the rom?
Did you know it has a float library in rom for dealing w/ tiny float values?
+ or - 2 to 30 decimal places. Did you know it has a VERY handy clipboard
for use w/in virtually ALL applications?. Did you know the O/S is extensible?
Da's TRULY multitask. W/ Multifinder, the whole machine multitasks (cute too!)
Apple is supposed to release System 7.0 shortly, which, supports virtual
memory (w/ HD's, over Appletalk etc) and a TON of other features. The Mac
as a "whole" is just a fascinating little gizmo! My only beefs w/ apple is
pricyness (which atari has emulated in the Mega's), and lack of "cheap" color.
(although I'd imagine that'll change too shortly). In adition, the Macs one
of the few "real" games in town. It's widely used in buisiness, it has GOBS
of software available both commercially & Public Domain (over 2 gigabytes
easily PD). Still thats Penuts compared to IBM. It would seem your bashing
a machine w/o exactly knowing any facts. I love my atari, its a fascinating
box. But, realistically it is not in the same league as PC's, Mac's, and
recently Amiga's too. Don't be blinded by names & jargons, but, if you must
at least pick a name that beleives in the computer user.
 
 
 
 
--
Jeff Gortatowsky-Eastman Kodak Company  .....rochester!kodak!elmgate!jdg
(use uuhosts or such to find path to rochester)
Eastman Kodak makes film not comments.  Therefore these comments are mine
not theirs.
 
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Date: 4 Jan 90 22:28:51 GMT
From:
 cs.utexas.edu!samsung!caesar.cs.montana.edu!ogicse!emory!hubcap!ncrcae!ncrlnk!n
 crcce!young@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu  (Todd Young)
Subject: SLM804 / HP LJIIp
Message-ID: <1821@ncrcce.StPaul.NCR.COM>
 
>In article <1990Jan3.230651.561@mentor.com> dclemans@mentor.com (Dave Clemans @
 APD x1292) writes:
>>
>> 1. Is there a PostScript board for the HP LJ IIp? If not, is there a slot
>>    in this printer for a PS board?
>>
>There is a "slot" for a postscript board in the IIp, but nothing is
>available yet.  The rumors I hear say that it is to be available sometime
>in the first half of 1990.
>
>dgc
 
How about a postscript emulator for the HP LJ2 ?? Pacific Page 2.54 appears
to be a low cost alternative. Retail cost os $695.00. Ram requirements are
2.5 meg. This product is reviewed in the Jan. issue of Byte magazine.
This product simply plugs into the one of the printer cartridge slots,
and is selectable through the standard printer controls.
 
Pacific Data Products
6404 Nancy Ridge Road
San Diego Ca. 92121  (619) 552-0880
 
--
Todd Young                    young@stpaul.ncr.com
NCR Comten, St. Paul, MN
 
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Date: 4 Jan 90 20:58:18 GMT
From: imagen!atari!towns@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (John Townsend)
Subject: TT
Message-ID: <1926@atari.UUCP>
 
in article <5176@blake.acs.washington.edu>, ramsiri@blake.acs.washington.edu
 (Enartloc Nhoj) says:
>
> It's been 4 solid months since the
> Dusseldorf "announcement" of the TT
> on August 25th, 1989.
>
> Today is more than 30 days beyond the ATARI policy
> of Show and Deliver.  Can anybody in
> Europe tell us non-Europeans that
> you have indeed purchased a TT from
> a dealer?
>
> -kevin
> ramsiri@blake.acs.washington.edu
>
> PLEASE.. NO WARS on this one.. this is an
> honest to goodness simple question.
 
The TT computer system is still under development by Atari. When the product
was shown, we stated projected delivery dates of 1st Quarter 1990. Check
your watch, the first quarter just started.
 
-- John Townsend                                ames!atari!towns
   Atari Corp, Systems Test
 
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Date: 4 Jan 90 20:56:26 GMT
From: imagen!atari!towns@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (John Townsend)
Subject: USEnet on GEnie...a followup
Message-ID: <1925@atari.UUCP>
 
in article <23792@brunix.UUCP>, rjd@cs.brown.edu (Rob Demillo) says:
>
> Here's an interesting sidenote:
>
> I was on GEnie last night, attending the Atari ST RT discussions.
> (Every Wednesday night at 10:00 pm EST). I brought up the
> USEnet->GEnie transfer topic. Most people didn't know it
> existed, and those that did were *glad* that it stopped.
> It seems that the USEnet messages were saturating the Atari ST
> section. (Too much info, too fast.) People found they
> couldn't keep up, even for the few days (hours?) it was operating.
>
 
The USEnet UPLINK wasn't in the ST Roundtable. It was located in the
Gadgets by Small RT. Most of the ST users didn't even know about it.
 
-- John Townsend                                ames!atari!towns
   Atari Corp, Systems Test
 
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