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INFO-ATARI16 Digest         Mon,  8 Jan 90       Volume 90 : Issue   21
 
Today's Topics:
    [No longer about] Changing Rez:  What we _really_ want to know
                               DEAD ST
                           Genlock inquiry
                  Genlock inquiry (How many colors?)
                   LHARC sources on Sys V (2 msgs)
                           Metafile problem
                        PageStream PostScript
                         Physbase vs Logbase
                           rainbow tos roms
                     STAR NX10 AND TIMEWORKS DTP
                        too late for Lynx ...
                         Wanted: Unix Windows
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Date: Sun, 7 Jan 90 10:14 EST
From: John R. Dunning <jrd@STONY-BROOK.SCRC.Symbolics.COM>
Subject: [No longer about] Changing Rez:  What we _really_ want to know
Message-ID: <19900107151403.1.JRD@CORD.SCRC.Symbolics.COM>
 
    Date: 5 Jan 90 21:14:09 GMT
    From: imagen!atari!apratt@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (Allan Pratt)
 
    In article <2009@sbsvax.UUCP>, roeder@sbsvax.UUCP (Edgar Roeder) writes
    stuff about using the terminate handler.
 
    This "hacker's approach to terminate handling" is one of the scariest
    things I have ever seen.
 
Perhaps, but it seems hardly surprising, given Atari's policy of not
making the official documentation readily available.
 
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Date: 8 Jan 90 14:29:27 GMT
From: mcsun!ukc!axion!masalla.fulcrum.bt.co.uk!igb@uunet.uu.net  (Simon
 Raybould)
Subject: DEAD ST
Message-ID: <WMLKD~@masalla.fulcrum.bt.co.uk>
 
I have been trying to fit an expansion into my atari ST 520STFM.
I de-soldered all of the holes, soldered in the sockets, soledered in
the 16 capacitors, and added the three resistors. I then checked the
ST only to find that it won't boot. I have since removed the sockets and
the capacitors and the three resistors, but still no boot.
 
I have had a hunt around with a logic probe and all seems to be functioning.
The only thing that I did notice is that the 2 of the 3 extra lines from the
MMU are being held high, whilst the third is pulsing in much the same fasion
as the original 9 lines. Does anyone know if these two lines from the MMU
should be held high or if they should be pulsing.
I have been advised that this is probably a solder wisker between two address
lines or two data lines or between an address line and a data line. I have
searched for this but have had no luck.
 
The processor will sometimes stop altogether, with its HALT line low. When
reset, it will go again for a while and then HALT. Could this be caused by
a sloder whisker ??
 
If this is wrong then is my MMU blown ??
I am talking abaout the MMU side of the resistors that go to the DRAMs.
The resistors are not in place as they are not in the standard 520STFM,
so these connections go the the MMU and nowhere else !!.
I beleive that only one of these three lines are needed to access the second
512K of RAM.
 
Any help here would be much appreciated.
 
 
S.J.R
 
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Date: 8 Jan 90 16:13:37 GMT
From: news@ncsuvx.ncsu.edu  (Hal G. Meeks)
Subject: Genlock inquiry
Message-ID: <1990Jan8.161337.7597@ncsuvx.ncsu.edu>
 
In article <90006.203352SML108@PSUVM.BITNET> SML108@PSUVM.BITNET writes:
>In article <90006.120601JKT100@PSUVM.BITNET>, JKT <JKT100@PSUVM.BITNET> says:
>>
>>In article <678@alias.UUCP>, rhardock@alias.UUCP (Ron Hardock) writes:
>>>
>>> I am also unsure of what computer platform to choose.
>>> Beside the Amiga, other choices I can see are:
>>> - Atari STE/TT        (provides a color palette of 4096),
>>> - Atari ATW   (provides 16 million simultaneous colors),
>>
>>Maybe, but just take one look at the tiny amount of software that
>>supports this hardware when compared the the rapidly growing Amiga
>>libaries, and you might change your mind rather quickly.  :-)
>>
>Sheesh, another commode head.
No need to call anyone names, really. Bad form.
 
>when are you guys going to realize
>that Apple is the enemy, with the lion's share of the pie, whilst
>you split hairs over the crumbs?
A/V Video, a reasonably decent trade publication that a friend has written
for (TV*Text review for one), recently placed the Amiga at having a clear
dominance of the desktop video market, based on reader replies. Somewhere in
the neighborhood of 47%, I believe. Apple is currently slogging it out with
the rest of the contenders. I would never underestimate Apple's ability to
change this in the future, however. Also, take note of the "FM-Towns" that
are currently the hot thing in Japan. NTSC compatable, with built in CD-V
units. All they need is a reasonable operating system ;-)
>I'd put out the rest of my non-existent wad and buy security with
>the Mac II.
Currently, I believe the Amiga offers considerably more for the doller than
the MacII, if you are interested in certain applications. It works well in
non-broadcast enviroments (cablecasting is okay). You don't really need to
spend $10,000+ if you are working with SVHS, or older 3/4" equipment, if all
you want are titles, and simple animation capability. Believe me, there are
a lot of people who fit into this catagory.
>
>Scott Le Grand  "If you like peanuts, you'll LOVE Sci-Fi!"
 
--hal
 
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Date: 8 Jan 90 17:29:14 GMT
From:
 zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sunybcs!sybil.cs.Buffalo.EDU!jmpiazza@tut.cis.ohio-st
 ate.edu  (Joseph M. Piazza)
Subject: Genlock inquiry (How many colors?)
Message-ID: <15584@eerie.acsu.Buffalo.EDU>
 
In article <90006.120601JKT100@PSUVM.BITNET> JKT100@PSUVM.BITNET (JKT) writes:
>Whoa there.  Yes, the Mac II has a 16 million color palette, but the
>output only handles 256 colors simultaneously, not all 16 million.
 
        Gee, MINE can show all 16 million -- I assume it's 16; my Control
Panel just says "millions."  :-)  The 256 figure is true for Apple's
Extended High-Res Display Video card.
 
>Yes, you may be able to expand this capability, but it will cost you
>a LOT.
 
        Depends on what you mean be "LOT."  Apple's card goes for about $450
discounted.  The Raster Ops 264 I have was $796.  So for only $350 more you go
from 8 bits to 24 bits.
 
        Of course for the same $796 I can get an Amiga 500 and a few extra
goodies.  As for my Mac IIx at work, I don't mind the higher price:  I didn't
pay for it.  :-)
 
        What I'm pointing out is that 24 bit color is not so very
far from reach.
 
        Extra Credit:  How about putting an Amiga on a NuBus board and
sticking it in a Mac II?
 
Flip side,
 
        joe piazza
 
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