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INFO-ATARI16 Digest         Thu, 15 Feb 90       Volume 90 : Issue  210
 
Today's Topics:
                           Dave Small (GBS)
                   DISK DRIVES, UNITERM AND TOS 1.4
                     INFO-ATARI16 Digest V90 #201
                        New Atari ST keyboard
                     Some Atari dealers in Canada
                         The 'PHANTOM TYPIST'
                          TOS 1.4 UK Version
                   WordPerfect Educational Discount
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Date: 14 Feb 90 14:18:13 GMT
From: mcsun!goya!colon!jjsf@uunet.uu.net  (Julio Sanchez)
Subject: Dave Small (GBS)
Message-ID: <1615@colon.gmv.es>
 
In article <11830073@hpldola.HP.COM> ritchie@hpldola.HP.COM (Dave Ritchie)
 writes:
>>Anyone got a reliable mail address for Dave Small that I can use from the UK?
>>I have tried 'dsmall@uucp.well' and the long 'un with the 'relay' bit. But
>>my messages keep bouncing. I am trying to contact you Dave!
>
>   You might try 'dsmall@well.uucp' instead.....
>
No, they do it that way in the UK, i.e. everything the other
way around. They have special cars, they have special mailers, too.
His problems must come from some other source.
 
Julio
 
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Date: 15 Feb 90 13:30:29 GMT
From: mcsun!ukc!harrier.ukc.ac.uk!pfg@uunet.uu.net  (P.F.Gisby)
Subject: DISK DRIVES, UNITERM AND TOS 1.4
Message-ID: <3859@harrier.ukc.ac.uk>
 
If you take out a single sided drive and put a double sided drive in
you should take the small adapter board away.  I did with my 1040 drive
and it worked O.K. until I got my mega, and as far as I know it still
is.
 
Help!!!
 Could someone post me uniterm 2.0e please!!!
 
How do you get Atari U.K. to give you tos 1.4 on roms, I already have it
on disk but it takes a while to load it in.  As far as I can see it anly
speeds up the hard drive access (not counting the new dialog boxes).
 
Could you tell me please!!!
 
Pete.
 
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Date: Thu, 15 Feb 90 13:57:19 CST
From: Robert Gambs <S54394GR%ETSUACAD.BITNET@ricevm1.rice.edu>
Subject: INFO-ATARI16 Digest V90 #201
 
Someone asked about the grease under the keys?
 
Someone correct me if I am wrong, but:
   The stuff is lubricant put on the wire handle looking things so that the
keys don't hang or have friction when you strike them.  Only the larger
keys have this (Return, Shift, Alt, Etc)
 
      Robert (S54394GR at ETSUACAD)
 
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Date: 15 Feb 90 16:39:24 GMT
From: mcsun!sunic!dkuug!freja!skinfaxe!jensting@uunet.uu.net  (Jens Tingleff)
Subject: New Atari ST keyboard
Message-ID: <1990Feb15.163924.22221@diku.dk>
 
obryan@gumby.cc.wmich.edu (Mark O'Bryan) writes:
 
>In article <2048@ultb.isc.rit.edu> clf3678@ultb.isc.rit.edu (C.L. Freemesser)
 writes:
>>
>> Well, there aren't any REAL replacement keyboards for the ST.  You can
>> buy those awful spring-things to stiffen up the keyboard, but they don't
>> work.
 
Try a German ST magazine, they're full of it (REALLY).
 
>>
>> I've been kicking the idea around of building a new keyboard with REAL
>> ...stuff removed...
>>
>> How do people feel about such a thing?  I'm surprised it has not been
>> done yet.  From what I hear, quite a few people would like something
>> better than this rubber crap we use now.
 
>Diverse Data Products of Florida (800) 662-8662 is bringing out a $60 box in
>March that allows you to connect any IBM AT style keyboard you like to the
[..]
 
The German magazine mc did a replacement that was 100 % compatible,
way back (say -88 ..). The idea is to
 
        -1 Take a very hard look at the ST circuit diagram,
           note down the keyboard matrix, connections to
           the IOContl etc.
 
        -2 Build a new keyboard matrix with REAL keys, connect
           to original keyboard controller etc.
 
There you are. It involves taking the thing completely apart, though.
You should be able to buy the circuit diagram (The local dealer
here carries it in his catalogue).
 
 
All the boxes that connect to the MIDI port are a loss, in my
opinion, for the reasons noted by Mark. Anyway, is there a way
to get the `both SHIFT keys are pressed' kind of data out from
a PC keyboard and into the ST MIDI/serial port ??????
(I once saw a program that needed this key-combination).
 
I will be adding a new keyboard to my ST (right after the
harddisk and the 2MB exta memory, sigh).
 
        Jens
 
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Date: 15 Feb 90 19:54:17 GMT
From:
 zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!usc!cs.utexas.edu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!utgpu!watse
 rv1!watdragon!tiger!swklassen@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu  (Steven W. Klassen)
Subject: Some Atari dealers in Canada
Message-ID: <20947@watdragon.waterloo.edu>
 
In article <917@uvicctr.UVic.CA.UUCP> rwilson@uvicctr.UVic.CA.UUCP (Richard
 Wilson) writes:
>According to my local Atari dealer, he can lose his dealership if he send's
>machines to the U.S.  Since Canadien Atari computers are not FCC approved, they
>cannot be sold to the U.S.  Please ask your dealer before posting his address,
>he (or of course she) may not want to be bothered by lots of requests for
>STe's that he can't fill.
 
So he can't send a computer to the U.S.  Does this mean that he can't sell
to an American who has come north to purchase a computer?  I doubt it.
(I've never yet been asked to prove that I'm a Canadian).
 
Steven W. Klassen                       +-----------------------------+
Computer Science Major                  | Support the poor...buy fur! |
University of Waterloo                  +-----------------------------+
 
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Date: 15 Feb 90 13:30:34 GMT
From:
 mcsun!ukc!axion!masalla.fulcrum.bt.co.uk!beta.its.bt.co.uk!jvt@uunet.uu.net
 (John Trickey)
Subject: The 'PHANTOM TYPIST'
Message-ID: <8D0_&*@masalla.fulcrum.bt.co.uk>
 
In article <1990Feb13.114858.5081@bath.ac.uk> exspes@bath.ac.uk (P E Smee)
 writes:
>
>I heard rumours some time ago that this was a side-effect (maybe or maybe
>not intentional) of an early PD program called UHRLI.ACC, which when
>selected would put a small digital clock display inside a tiny window.
>I certainly have not seen the problem since I bought a cheap digital
>watch to hang beside the computer, and stopped using UHRLI.  May just
>be coincidence, though.
>
 
I am afraid it probably was coincidence.  I've just caught onto this
topic which is currently of great interest to me as last night I had
just this sort of problem while using TIMEWORKS.
 
As far as I am aware, these disks have never been anywhere near any other
software (except 1stWord) as I always switch off before using business
progs.  I do not have a hard disk so I suspect the problem is not viral.
However, I am going to try to reproduce the problem and also check out
the floppies.
 
The symptoms I had were-
        Selection of menu items required slight mouse movement after
        the click to take effect.
        Keyboard strokes also required slight mouse movement for the
        character to be displayed.
 
Any tips/help etc would be appreciated, preferably by e-mail as I
cannot always guarantee to read the net within our 3 day expiry.
Equipment is 1040 STe.
 
John.
 
--
 
John Trickey                      British Telecom IT Systems.
jvt@its.bt.co.uk                  ..!mcsun!ukc!axion!its
G4REV @ GB7SUT                    Voice: +44 21 333 3369
 
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Date: 15 Feb 90 12:12:57 GMT
From: mcsun!ukc!edcastle!hwcs!neil@uunet.uu.net  (Neil Forsyth)
Subject: TOS 1.4 UK Version
Message-ID: <4429@brahma.cs.hw.ac.uk>
 
In article <9002091008.AA17166@decwrl.dec.com> HEIDEN@KBOMFG.enet.dec.com
("Matthias Heiden, Advanced System Process Development  09-Feb-1990 1107")
writes:
>In article <4336@brahma.cs.hw.ac.uk>, eru!luth!sunic!mcsun!ukc!edcastle!hwcs!
> neil@bloom-beacon.mit.edu I wrote:
>
>> Well I now have TOS 1.4 ("Great! Perhaps he'll stop moaning now"),
>> I actually had to send Atari UK the blank EPROMs to get it which I guess
>> beats anyone elses sob story. Do you think if I send them some chips and
>> solder they could make me a TT :-)
>
>       Which address did you send your EPROMs to ? Can only registered
>       developers use this service ?                   Matthias Heiden
 
I wrote (many many times!) and phoned (..!) to
 
        Atari Corp. (UK) Limited
        Atari House
        Railway Terrace
        Slough
        Berkshire
        SL2 5BZ
 
But I think only registered developers are supposed to get it at this time.
Despite that some non-developers have got a copy!
 
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Date: 15 Feb 90 19:18:23 GMT
From: pewter!jburka@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu  (Jeffrey C. Burka)
Subject: WordPerfect Educational Discount
Message-ID: <35964@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu>
 
Yes, WordPerfect does have an 'education discount' on ST WordPerfect...
 
It costs $99, and is identical to the normal commercial version in all
ways except the color of the binder (and, in fact, I bought my educational
package just as WP was hitting the shelves 2+ years ago, and have the
standard binder!)
 
You can order directly from WordPerfect (you'll need an order form, available
from WP or from some computer stores) and you need to be able to show a
valid school ID.
 
WP's address is:
        288 West Center Street
        Orem, Utah  84057
 
The phone number for the atari support divison is 1-800-321-3271.
 
The order form for the educational version is fairly generic (it lists all
platforms; you check off the one you want) and should be available at just
about any computer store.  I got my order form from an Amiga dealer.  When
I was looking for another order form several months later, I ran into trouble.
I went into one IBM-based computer chain (Entre, in the DC area) and was told
that WP didn't have a discount program (HAH!).  The next store I tried told
me that they could sell me the educational version, but they refused to give
me an order form!  (This was an ST store, and I needed the IBM version of the
program).  Finally, another ST store gave me an order form.
 
Good luck
 
Jeff
 
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