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INFO-ATARI16 Digest         Sun, 11 Mar 90       Volume 90 : Issue  313
 
Today's Topics:
                            40-Folder Bug
                            Arc.ttp & Unix
                            C++ for the ST
               HP Graphics Terminal Emulation - Request
          PD/shareware Fortran compiler for Atari ST needed
                      SIMMs for the STE (2 msgs)
                Using laser printers with Spectre GCR
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Date: 10 Mar 90 19:12:53 GMT
From: cunixf.cc.columbia.edu!cunixa.cc.columbia.edu!cmm1@rutgers.edu
 (Christopher M Mauritz)
Subject: 40-Folder Bug
Message-ID: <1990Mar10.191253.28239@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu>
 
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Date: 11 Mar 90 22:37:44 GMT
From: eru!luth!sunic!mcsun!ukc!icdoc!gould!zmacu06@bloom-beacon.mit.edu  (F S
 Taylor)
Subject: Arc.ttp & Unix
Message-ID: <ZMACU06.90Mar11223745@tsun1.doc.ic.ac.uk>
 
In article <6851@cps3xx.UUCP> schultzd@frith.egr.msu.edu writes:
 
>   Ok folks, here's the question...
 
Fire away...
 
>  Downloading a 400K file just to de-arc it so I can read the docs
>  is a pain...
 
Certainly is.
 
>  My solution put the arc.ttp program in my Unix machine.  If someone
>  has already translated Atari "arc" to Unix usable, PLEASE let me
>  know!  If not, I would like source code for arc so that my partner &
>  I can make whatever modifications to allow it to run on Unix...
 
Well, I recently pulled arc off the sources archive here at Imperial
College to compile it on a Sun4. The distribution seems to be geared
towards both ST and Unix. (Certainly the Makefile mentions both of
them.)
 
It compiled first time on the Sun4 and is currently working fine.
 
The version is by Howard Chu (hyc@umix.cc.umich.edu)
You can get it from any comp.sources.unix archive (eg. uunet) in
volume15.
 
Hope this helps.
 
Frank.
 
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Date: 12 Mar 90 02:09:29 GMT
From: agate!darkstar!ucscb.UCSC.EDU!sleepy@apple.com
Subject: C++ for the ST
Message-ID: <1775@darkstar.ucsc.edu>
 
Does anyone know of a C++ compiler for the ST?  Preferably V2.0 compatible,
but I'll take what I can get.
 
I saw something once on G++.  Is that GNU C++?  Can I ftp it from somewhere?
 
Thanks much,
Jeff
 
sleepy@ucscb.edu
 
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Date: Sun, 11 Mar 90 19:04:41 EST
From: Dave Davis <ddavis@APG-EMH5.APG.ARMY.MIL>
Subject: HP Graphics Terminal Emulation - Request
Message-ID: <9003111904.aa27202@BRL-VGR.APG-EMH5.APG.ARMY.MIL>
 
        Has anyone seen a graphics HP terminal emulation running on the
ST?  I'm looking for ANYTHING, including a terminal emulator running
under the MAC emulators.  Preferences would lean towards the
inexpensive, such as Uniterm with HP emulation, or a PD terminal
emulator running under Magic Sac (sorry dsmall, Spectre is out of my
price range at the moment...maybe in a year or two!).
 
        I do have the HP alpha only terminal emulator (and would like to
see source for this if it's available).  Any tips on adding graphics
capability would be welcome as well.  Thanks. . .
 
ddavis
ddavis@apg-emh5.apg.army.mil
 
 
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Date: 10 Mar 90 10:56:40 GMT
From: mcsun!hp4nl!nikhefh!t19@uunet.uu.net  (Geert J v Oldenborgh)
Subject: PD/shareware Fortran compiler for Atari ST needed
Message-ID: <802@nikhefh.nikhef.nl>
 
You must mean the 'Real Time Fortran', used among others by UA1 at CERN (the
guys who discovered the W, the Z and damn nearly supersymmetry).  I have only
seen it on a Mac.  It is known here as the 'ghost house'.  We never managed to
get the 'savage' banchmark to run properly - it would not print 2 numbers (1
was OK), but it has many extensions for real time control of equipment.
 
My 2c worth on the other 2:
Absoft: fast, extensions, very sloppy syntax checking, no GEM interface worth
        speaking of (but who does GEM in Fortran?), cheap, no support.
Prospero: integrated environment (without 'make' and no way to hook mine in),
        slow, good debugger, good hooks to GEM, a bit more expensive.
 
Geert Jan van Oldenborgh (writing big numbercrunching programs on the ST)
 
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Date: 12 Mar 90 02:32:51 GMT
From: stpeter!cmcmanis@sun.com  (Chuck McManis)
Subject: SIMMs for the STE
Message-ID: <132824@sun.Eng.Sun.COM>
 
In article <2069@atari.UUCP> apratt@atari.UUCP (Allan Pratt) writes:
>Here we go again: Standard SIMM Reply #1:
>
>The SIMMs are there mainly for the cost and space savings on the PC
>board, not so you can add memory to your machine.  Sometimes we use
>SIPs, not SIMMs, and they're soldered right into the board! Don't rush
>out and buy a 520STe expecting to be able to upgrade it.
 
Allan, your a reasonable guy, where did you get this reply? You make it
sound like Atari Corp is not interested in doing anything to make
its customer's lives any easier. Why not ? You might consider suggesting
to your management that it is a "feature" in the opinion of your potential
customers that they can upgrade the memory of their machine. This "feature"
costs about 0.28US$ and yields quantifiable customer satisfaction.
 
I think this is a symptom of a bigger problem. However, a thousand mile
journey begins with but one step.
 
 
--Chuck McManis
uucp: ?anywhere?!sun!cmcmanis   BIX: cmcmanis  Internet: cmcmanis@Eng.Sun.COM
These opinions are my own and no one elses, but you knew that didn't you.
"If it didn't have bones in it, it wouldn't be crunchy now would it?!"
 
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Date: 12 Mar 90 02:47:27 GMT
From: stpeter!cmcmanis@sun.com  (Chuck McManis)
Subject: SIMMs for the STE
Message-ID: <132825@sun.Eng.Sun.COM>
 
In article <4592@brahma.cs.hw.ac.uk> neil@cs.hw.ac.uk (Neil Forsyth) writes:
> Unless Atari say so officially then nothing is guaranteed.
 
Hmm, "As-is" Software might be the name of a successful software business. :-)
Is it possible to even write software with what Atari has said "Offically" ?
Can someone detail the canonical list of things that Atari has said
"officially"?
 
Lets see :
        The DevKit - Ok, but not all of it is applicable to the ST.
        How to parse command line arguments.
        What to use to avoid the 40 folder bug.
 
My impression is that most of what Atari say's officially is what you can't
do and not what you can do. Maybe that is part of the problem no?
 
--Chuck McManis
uucp: ?anywhere?!sun!cmcmanis   BIX: cmcmanis  Internet: cmcmanis@Eng.Sun.COM
These opinions are my own and no one elses, but you knew that didn't you.
"If it didn't have bones in it, it wouldn't be crunchy now would it?!"
 
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Date: 12 Mar 90 02:42:54 GMT
From:
 zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!uflorida!stat!fsu!prism!ccast
 vf@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu  (That's Mr. Bucko to you)
Subject: Using laser printers with Spectre GCR
Message-ID: <6890@hydra.gatech.EDU>
 
A friend of mine has a pretty good Spectre GCR setup on his Mega 2, and
would like to add a laser printer. Does anyone have any suggestions on one
that works well? It would be ideal to be able to print directly from the
application without having to exit to download postscript files or some such.
I don't think one that could only be hooked up via serial port would be
good since we have an Apple LaserWriter at work that for various reasons
had to be hooked with RS232 and big files just take to long to transmit to it.
I notice some printers have SCSI ports, and I've heard these are for the
storage of extra fonts.  But are these ports also useable for Atari DMA access?
 
I have heard rumours of Dave Small supportin AppleTalk in his next release
and am wondering if maybe he shouldn't just wait for that. Then he could
probably pick up a LaserWriter Plus somewhere cheap and hook it up that way.
 
--
Vincent Fox (That's Mr. Bucko to you)
Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332
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Internet: ccastvf@prism.gatech.edu
 
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