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INFO-ATARI16 Digest         Thu,  8 Feb 90       Volume 90 : Issue  171
 
Today's Topics:
                       All Black Screen Savers
              ATARI 520STFM SYSTEM FOR SALE --- $350.00
                INFO-ATARI16 Digest V90 #169 (2 msgs)
                      Ken@Atari + Turbo C = ???
                             pc ditto II
                            Right Way?????
                       ST S/ware Rental Places
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Date: 8 Feb 90  0:40 -0800
From: Doug Latornell <latornell@mech.ubc.ca>
Subject: All Black Screen Savers
Message-ID: <271*latornell@mech.ubc.ca>
 
There have been some comments recently about potential damage resulting from
the use of screen savers that change the screen to all black.  Could someone
please explain this?  I thought the idea of a screen saver was to preserve
the phosphorous by displaying nothing when the machine is not in use.
 
I've been using Moshe Braner's (sp?) Idle 1.2 for about 2 years now on a
1040ST with a SM124 (monchrome) monitor and have noticed no ill effects.
Am I slowly killing my monitor??
 
Doug Latornell
latornell@mech.ubc.ca
 
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Date: 8 Feb 90 10:49:30 GMT
From:
 snorkelwacker!usc!brutus.cs.uiuc.edu!rpi!pawl17.pawl.rpi.edu!mel@bloom-beacon.m
 it.edu  (Jeremy P. Stewart)
Subject: ATARI 520STFM SYSTEM FOR SALE --- $350.00
Message-ID: <*?64Z+@rpi.edu>
 
    I have an atari 520stfm hi-res. mono system that I would like to sell.
 The system comes with:
 
      - Atari 520stfm
          with DS 720k 3.5" floppy
      - SM124 Monochrome High Resolution monitor
      - Assorted software:
          Several telecommunication programs
          Wordprocessor
          Languages
             (Pascal,Forth,assembler)
 
       - A years worth of Start magazine disks
       - Calculus function graphing and analysis program
       - and other misc. stuff
 
    All this for $350.00!
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    I just bought a new computer and no longer have a need for this
 equipment.  If you are interested, drop me an e-mail line to the addresses
 below, or call (518) 276-4501.
 
                                Sincerely,
                                jeremy Stewart
 
                 mel@pawl.rpi.edu
                gn3w@mts.rpi.edu
 
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Date: Thu, 08 Feb 90 12:23:07 SST
From: "S.Sujarittanonta" <AKISUJAR%NUSVM.BITNET@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
Subject: INFO-ATARI16 Digest V90 #169
 
Ref: Key Pad problems
 
I have the same problem when using TINCAN V3.0 with IBM mainframe to logon
to BITNET all PF keys do not work at all.  I am now stop logon under Spectre
Macintosh mode but using the program called PC INTERCOM. It is quite an old pro
gram but allowing me to config Atari function key to put in my Account No, Pass
word, and other command wich saving a lot of time than keying them in every
time. Only drawback is that this program does not have PCTRANS file transfer
protocol. It got kermit though. I use Kermit to tranfer all Atari files to my
computer. As for the Mac program I will log on with PC Intercom and set every
thing ready for file transfer then quit PC Intercom while still online. Switch
to Spectre and run TINCAN to download Mac program with PCTRANS protocol. It
save time from using Transverter to convert to MFS format. I can just BINHEX it
and unstuff. I also have not try to config PF key for the RedRyder but seems
that many netters are using this Program. Suthipuntha, School of Architecture
                                                      Nat. Univ. of Singaapore
 
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Date: Thu, 08 Feb 90 12:59:45 SST
From: "S.Sujarittanonta" <AKISUJAR%NUSVM.BITNET@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
Subject: INFO-ATARI16 Digest V90 #169
 
REF: Hard disk Miniformatter
 
Hello H. C. Johnson,
Sorry to post it here but I hve tried sending 2 messages to yours both new and
old address but my mails were returned. I can't directly reach you from Sing-
apore.  I am another one who have problem with corrupted HD partition under
Spectre. I shall be most grateful if you will kindly email your MINIHDX, MKFS,
and FSCK.PRGs to me too. I hope that I am not too demanding or greedy.
 
Another thing occur to me is that would the DISK EXPRESS 1.05 cause any problem
with Spectre HD partition? I use it several time and some time its refused to
verify the partition. Some time it corrupted the desktop and I cannot rebuild
the desktop again.  Is it save to use this program?  Thanks in advance,
                                           Suthipuntha,AKISUJAR@NUSVM
                                           School of Architecture
                                           National University of Singapore
 
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Date: 8 Feb 90 10:40:01 GMT
From:
 zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!brutus.cs.uiuc.edu!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!
 cs325ec@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu
Subject: Ken@Atari + Turbo C = ???
Message-ID: <16000008@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
 
        RE: Note way way back... What is Ken Bad???? doing with
        Turbo C when it's not for sale in the US?
 
        -Greg
 
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Date: 7 Feb 90 10:55:11 GMT
From: eru!luth!sunic!mcsun!unido!laura!exunido!haacke@bloom-beacon.mit.edu
 (Ralf Haacke)
Subject: pc ditto II
Message-ID: <1959@laura.UUCP>
 
>I have been considering purchasing pc ditto II, but I need to know a few
>things first.  What level of IBM graphics does it support (ie EGA, CGA, etc)?
pc ditto II supports CGA, Hercules, Hercules(640x400), ATT and PC monochrome.
 
>Does it read atari joystick ports?
the Atari-Mouse and the serial PC-Mouse are supported by pc-ditto II
 
>Is there going to be a PC Ditto III in the near future?
I think: NO!
 
Dieter Fiebelkorn
 
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Date: 7 Feb 90 10:38:37 GMT
From: eru!luth!sunic!mcsun!unido!uniol!schwuchow@bloom-beacon.mit.edu  (Michael
 Schwuchow)
Subject: Right Way?????
Message-ID: <1679@uniol.UUCP>
 
gefagan@uokmax.uucp (Geoffrey Edward Fagan) writes:
 
>In article <25C9E532.8848@paris.ics.uci.edu> wngai@ics.uci.edu (Wayne Ngai)
 writes:
>>Can anyone of you people out there tell me the answer to the following
>>brainteaser???
>>
>>      Ok, you are in a Jungle and it is getting dark. You must find
>>your way out of the jungle.  In the Jungle lived two tribes, one tribe
>>is good and always tells the truth while the other tribe is bad and
>>alway tells lies.  You are on a dirty path and came upon a Y-intersection.
>>Right in front of you is a sign pointing right and reads "This way to
>>Safty------->".  Behind the sign is a native, You can only ask him
>>one question with a yes or no Answer to determine if the native is telling the
>> truth or lie and determine which way is the right way out of the jungle.
>>Remember you are Allow to ask only one question and it must have a yes
>>or no anwer.
>>
>>If you have an answer, please tell me by sending it through e-mail!!
>>Thank you!
>>
>>Wayne
>>
>>wngai@Paris.ics.uci.edu
 
>Ok, grab the native.  Grab your elephant gun.  Place the business end of the
>gun against the skull of the native.  State "I need to know if this path
>leads to safety and I'm gonna take you with me to find out." Finally, ask,
>"Do you suggest the left path?"
 
>Geoffrey Fagan (gefagan@uokmax.uucp)
 
I have a better solution:
Look at your map and choose the way , which is safe.
Beside you can try to chat a little about cultur, society, and logic with
the native. Although it might be boring only to hear always 'yes' or 'no'.
 
Michael
 
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Date: 8 Feb 90 03:54:12 GMT
From: rochester!kodak!nelson@pt.cs.cmu.edu  (Bruce Nelson)
Subject: ST S/ware Rental Places
Message-ID: <2322@kodak.UUCP>
 
In article <28201@brunix.UUCP> rjd@cs.brown.edu (Rob Demillo) writes:
>The reason I can say this is because I have attended ST User Group
>meetings in three different communities. In all three cases, the
>scene is entirely the same: a brief meeting is held, some software
>is demoed, then what can only be described as an orgy of software
>piracy begins. Its mallicious, its organized, and its massive.
 
Please stop by a meeting of the Atari Computer Owners of Rochester, NY.
You will see a group of dedicated Atari owners teaching newcomers how
to use their machines, a groups of users talking about the latest
Atari "gossip", demos of the newest programs, talks by developers, dealers,
and "experts", and, NO PIRACY!
 
Our club, as do many other groups, has a strict policy against software piracy
in any form. Swapping of commercial software is prohibited at our meetings
and on our bbs.
 
You will never see an "orgy of software piracy" at an ACORN meeting.
 
Bruce Nelson
President, Atari Computer Owners of Rochester, NY
 
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