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INFO-ATARI16 Digest         Mon, 16 Apr 90       Volume 90 : Issue  449
 
Today's Topics:
              CALL FOR INFORMATION: Atari parts vendors
                        Cartridge Port Pinouts
                 One world, One CPU, One OS (3 msgs)
                            Phantom Typist
             Subgroups in the comp.sys.atari.st newsgroup
                               Test...
                          UUCP Impelmations
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Date: 15 Apr 90 09:00:54 GMT
From: eagle!ncastellano@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU
Subject: CALL FOR INFORMATION: Atari parts vendors
Message-ID: <17256@eagle.wesleyan.edu>
 
I am interested in purchasing some parts for my Atari 1040ST, such as
the connector which goes from the keyboard to the motherboard and an
experimenter's card for the cartridge slot.  If you know of any
mail-order houses that carry ST parts, please mail me their address
and relevant information (what parts they carry, prices if known.)
Mail directly to me and I will summarize to the net.  If a list of this
information has already been compiled, would someone be kind enough to
mail it to me?
 
                Thanks in advance,
                          nick
 
--
        ncastellano@eagle.wesleyan.edu    ncastellano@wesleyan.bitnet
                Sinkhole!dEADHEAd@mast.citadel.moundst.mn.org
   "We are happy.  (_silence._)  What do we do now, now that we are happy?"
               -Estragon, _waiting for godot_ by samuel beckett
 
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Date: 16 Apr 90 16:29:41 GMT
From: dino!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!m.cs.uiuc.edu!totty@uunet.uu.net
Subject: Cartridge Port Pinouts
Message-ID: <7500016@m.cs.uiuc.edu>
 
        Does anyone have any information on the ST ROM Cartridge port?
        (specifically the pinouts).  The pinouts seem to differ from what
        is indicated in the Abacus Atari ST Internals book.  Also, what
        kind of signals are generated on a read for control purposes?
 
                                                        --- Bri
 
   /                      Brian Totty              o o
  /__  __  o        406 E. Michigan / Apt. 6        o
 /  / /   /             Urbana, IL 61801           \_/  "We have corn in
/__/ /   /             totty@cs.uiuc.edu                Massachusetts too!"
 
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Date: 13 Apr 90 19:37:36 GMT
From: wuarchive!kuhub.cc.ukans.edu!2fjmvery@decwrl.dec.com
Subject: One world, One CPU, One OS
Message-ID: <22857.2625d620@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu>
 
In article <1990Apr13.160323.3616@wam.umd.edu>, dmb@wam.umd.edu (David M.
 Baggett) writes:
> In article <93.26244db9@desire.wright.edu> demon@desire.wright.edu writes:
>>              What does Apple have to lose by liscensing the Mac OS to
>>Commodore and Atari?
>
> They would lose the ability to be incredibly pompus about their OS and
> to sue the hell out of anyone that even thought about imitating it.
> There would be massive layoffs at Apple because they'd have to fire
> most of their laywers, which seem to comprise about 1/2 the company.
>
> :-)  (Just a joke, guys; just a joke!)
>
> Dave Baggett
> dmb@cscwam.umd.edu
 
Actually, Atari and Commodore would be the losers if they adapted the Mac
OS.  There's a lot about the Mac OS that just shows bad design and
decision-making on the part of its designers.
 
Anyone who'd give up the Amiga's unique and fairly efficient OS for one that
has to fake multi tasking becuase it's designers were to dumb to include
interrupts should be shot.
 
Atari owners would have to give up their superior DMA and overall system speed.
 
The Mac OS and its evolution seem to represent a band-aid approach to fixing
flaws they inherited from the start.
 
--Jim Sisul
Flight Research Lab
KU Center for Research
 
Not necessarily the views of my employers.
Hell, my employers don't even know what Macs and STs ARE.
 
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Date: 16 Apr 90 15:08:24 GMT
From: intercon!news@uunet.uu.net  (Amanda Walker)
Subject: One world, One CPU, One OS
Message-ID: <1990Apr16.150824.23060@intercon.com>
 
Children, Children!
 
Let's not get into this argument YET AGAIN, OK?
 
If we all stay in our own sandboxes, we'll all have more fun :-).
 
--
Amanda Walker, InterCon Systems Corporation
--
"Y'know, you can't have, like, a light, without a dark to stick it in...
 You know what I'm sayin'?"     --Arlo Guthrie
 
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Date: 16 Apr 90 15:58:31 GMT
From: ucrmath!lord_zar@ucsd.edu  (wayne wallace)
Subject: One world, One CPU, One OS
Message-ID: <5512@ucrmath.UCR.EDU>
 
In article <1990Apr16.150824.23060@intercon.com> amanda@mermaid.intercon.com
 (Amanda Walker) writes:
>Children, Children!
>
>Let's not get into this argument YET AGAIN, OK?
>
>If we all stay in our own sandboxes, we'll all have more fun :-).
>
>--
>Amanda Walker, InterCon Systems Corporation
>--
>"Y'know, you can't have, like, a light, without a dark to stick it in...
> You know what I'm sayin'?"     --Arlo Guthrie
 
Yes, but then we won't meet anyone new ;-) since programs (for the Amiga)
are out than can convert between Messy-Dos and Amiga and MacNTras---ahem,
Macintosh ;-) it's only logical (when was business ever that way? ;-)
that different systems, ie IBM PS/200 Atari XZ Mac iiYZ and Amiga300,000 will
eventually have file formats close enough, or the same, while retaining their
own distinctive (sometimes infamous ;-) features.
keep hoping, but only for file formats ;-)
 
Wayne
 
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Date: 16 Apr 90 12:34:17 GMT
From:
 swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!uflorida!haven!aplcen
 !jhunix!rick@ucsd.edu  (Eric Ruck)
Subject: Phantom Typist
Message-ID: <4797@jhunix.HCF.JHU.EDU>
 
I don't know if anyone is still following the Phantom Typist thing, but
for the first time in four years of Atari ownership, without changing my
usual software habits in the least for at least 6 mos, I managed to get
it to show it's ugly head (OK, it showed it's ugly head of its own free
will).
 
The interesting thing is that I know exactly what I did differently, and
this definitely suggests a solution.  I was feeling too lazy to use the
mouse, so I went flipping through folders, then around the menu bar of
Word Writer 2 using the Alt-arrow keys.  Didn't take long before the
thing started to go bezerk.  I also noticed that although the keys weren't
responding right, the last two or three characters I typed would appear if
I wiggled the mouse.
 
Anybody come to any conclusions on this thing?  Or is the general consensus
that this is a dead issue?
 
Eric
 
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Date: Sun, 15 Apr 90 22:53 EST
From: JOHNBARNES@ENH.NIST.GOV
Subject: Subgroups in the comp.sys.atari.st newsgroup
 
AS an Internet uswer I'm not sure if my input means anything because of the
differences in the way Usenet and Internet operate.
 
However, I would like to vote for keeping everything in one newsgroup.  I find
that the volume of material that I have to dredge through to extract useful
nuggets is not unduly large.  It is true that we get quite a lot of nonsense
on some topics.  It is, however, easy enough to cut some of it off by sending
the offender a nastygram directly if he gets too obstreperous.
 
In any scheme that is devised there will be a certain number of sociopaths
who will clutter up bandwidth for the sake of seeing their names in print.
 
The people who are sensitive to the bandwidth issue (such as Steve Grimm) are
perhaps being overly tender on the subject.   I think the people who run the
nets (MILnet, NSFNET, etc) know what is going on and are willing to accept
a certain amount of wasted verbiage in exchange for a modest amount of solid
communication.  It seems tru that the Atari newsgroup does a disproportionate
amount of verballizing, but the occasional offender seems to lose interest
fairly quickly.  There is a solid core of people who get real value from the
exchanges and, if we err on any side I think it should be on the side of
excess information rather than shortage.
 
John Barnes - JOHNBARNES@ENH.NIST.GOV
 
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Date: 16 APR 90 10:45:48.45-GMT
From: JADCZYK%FRCPTM51.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU
Subject: Test...
 
THEY are, and now you given THEM a thread...
 
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Date: 16 Apr 90 04:39:04 GMT
From: deimos.cis.ksu.edu!uafhp!uafcseg!bbs00021@uunet.uu.net  (John Bunch)
Subject: UUCP Impelmations
Message-ID: <4068@uafhp.uark.edu>
 
Greeting all.
 
I am looking for a reliable implementation of uucp for the Atari ST
line.  I understand that there are some bbs programs that have uucp
ability, but I would rather something that is usable from the gem
desktop.  I know of mailtruk, but I also need to be able to unbatch and read
news.  If anyone has any info please send all replies to a friends
account listed below.
 
caine@cs.albany.edu
caine@cssun.uucp
 
Thank you.
 
John Bunch.
 
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