INFO-ATARI16 Digest         Wed, 14 Feb 90       Volume 90 : Issue  204
 
Today's Topics:
                       ATARI ST 520FM for sale
                        Great games on the ST
                          PCDITTO v. PCSPEED
                     Some Atari dealers in Canada
             Tick-tick-tick-CRASH! is not dead in TOS 1.4
                             zoo problems
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Date: 14 Feb 90 19:52:55 GMT
From: max!rosalia@sbcs.sunysb.edu  (Mark Galassi)
Subject: ATARI ST 520FM for sale
Message-ID: <1990Feb14.195255.18204@max.sunysb.edu>
 
First I should point out what the FM is:  it is an Atari 520 ST with
the floppy drive built in, instead of external, and with an RF modulator.
It also has the power supply INSIDE.
 
I bought this in 1989, to replace my old 520, which died, and am
impressed with it, because it does not have all those cables and power
supplies sitting all over the place.  But I ended up not using it
because I use my UNIX PC all the time.
 
I also sell a double sided external drive (so you have a double and a
single).  The double sided drive and the monitor are both older.
 
I have some disks of software, and if you read the net, you will find
a lot of better stuff in various archives.
 
So here is the scoop:  I sell
 
-- Atari 520 ST FM
-- Monitor
-- Internal single sided drive
-- External double sided drive
-- Various disks with PD and commerial software
-- Manuals
 
You pay exactly $400 or best offer for the whole thing, including UPS COD
charges.
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    ?These opinions are mine, and should be everybody else's :-)?
        Mark Galassi            rosalia@dirac.sunysb.edu
        rosalia@mozart.UUCP     rosalia@sunysbnp.BITNET
 
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Date: 14 Feb 90 22:49:07 GMT
From:
 mailrus!cs.utexas.edu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!neat.cs.toronto.edu!omicron.cs.fs
 u.edu!fsucs.cs.fsu.edu!boyd@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu  (Mickey Boyd)
Subject: Great games on the ST
Message-ID: <9002142244.AA20559@fsucs.cs.fsu.edu>
 
Well, I have not heard about any games on this newsgroup for awhile, so
here are some new ones that I have seen that are really good.
 
    1.  North and South:  this one got a higher score than Dungeon Master in
        the british magazine ST Action.  This is significant, those guys are
        very discriminating with their games.  A semi-strategy graphics
        masterpiece, good sound and humorous.  Based on the Civil War.
 
    2.  Blasteroids:  Arcade conversion, very good.  Kind of like "Super
        asteroids meets the transformers."  Pure shoot'em up, perfect for
        someone who has no time for adventures.
 
    3.  Full Metal Planet:  Strategy type wargame, very good graphics,
        extremely good sound.  Futuristic robot ships fighting each other,
        up to 4 players either computer or human.  Really unique, really fun.
 
Disclaimer:  I have no connection to the authors of the above works, nor do
I or anybody I know own a computer store.  These are just great games that
deserve to be bought.
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              Mickey Boyd            |    "Nobody can be exactly like me.
         FSU Computer Science        |      Even I have trouble doing it."
      mail:  boyd@fsucs.cs.fsu.edu   |              - Tallulah Bankhead
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Date: 14 Feb 90 20:40:58 GMT
From: pasteur!zooey.Berkeley.EDU!c162-ee@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (Dan Filner)
Subject: PCDITTO v. PCSPEED
Message-ID: <22099@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU>
 
After all the talk and talk and talk about PC-DITTO II, I felt that maybe
people should take a little notice of PC-SPEED.
 
        As I last heard from Avante-Garde many moons ago, I understood that
PCD-II was NOT going to have an 8088 on it but was instead just some
hardware support for the SOFTWARE emulator. I heard Norton SI claims of the
3 to 4 range.
        On the net it seems people who ordered their PCD2's in advance finally
received the product but found after installation that it was impossible
to get it to work - this being confirmed by AvanteGarde?
        Recently a friend of a friend sold me a PC-Speed which he had been
unable (for lack of tech-spertise) to install in his Mega. I popped out
my CMI accelerator from my 1Mb 520 ST and popped in the PC-SPEED.
Instant Gratification. (almost instant)
        PC SPEED exists. Local stores have them in stock. It works.
I'm currently running MSDOS 3.20 and using one 14mb partition as the PC's
boot drive. It's a small, clean board, with a NEC V30 on it. It mounts over
the 68000 with no soldering other than the one socket - and no main board
mods required - you can take PCspeed out and your ST is back in nearly
original condition.
        Performance : "Speed v0.99" says 3.2 times the speed of an XT.
Not bad. CGA updating on a color screen is slowed by massive graphics updates,
but the processor seems to cook along at a reasonable clip. It works fine
in Mono.
        I DID trash partition D of my HD while installing MSDOS but that's my
own fault - I should have backed it up before using the MSDOS SYS command.
 
        So - my question is, why is everyone still concerned with PC-Ditto II
when PC Speed exists? Is there some superior feature of PCD2 that I
didn't hear about? Does PCSPEED threaten to format my HD at random times?
 
Anyway, PCSPEED seems great to me and PCDITTO seems like vapor-ware or even
worse, a real product whose only function is to destroy working ST's???
 
Dan Filner
c162-ee@zooey.berkeley.edu
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of course I have no ties to either PCD2 or PCSPEED 's parent companies...
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Date: 14 Feb 90 22:29:46 GMT
From:
 pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!usc!cs.utexas.edu!jarvis.c
 sri.toronto.edu!utgpu!watserv1!watdragon!poppy!ljdickey@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu
 (Lee Dickey)
Subject: Some Atari dealers in Canada
Message-ID: <20919@watdragon.waterloo.edu>
 
In article <917@uvicctr.UVic.CA.UUCP> rwilson@uvicctr.UVic.CA.UUCP (Richard
 Wilson) writes:
 
>According to my local Atari dealer, he can lose his dealership if he send's
>machines to the U.S.  Since Canadien Atari computers are not FCC approved, they
>cannot be sold to the U.S.  Please ask your dealer before posting his address,
>he (or of course she) may not want to be bothered by lots of requests for
>STe's that he can't fill.
 
Who is asking the dealer to "send" anything.  I think we are talking
about walk-ins here.  My dealer did not ask if I intend to take
my machine to the US.  I know of another who may have contributed
to the current shortage of Mega ST2's in the US by purchasing there
and carrying with him to a third country.
None of these activities are illegal, nor should they endanger the
status of a dealership.
 
 
Good grief.
    L. J. Dickey, Faculty of Mathematics, University of Waterloo.
        ljdickey@water.UWaterloo.ca     ljdickey@water.BITNET
        ljdickey@water.UUCP             ..!uunet!watmath!water!ljdickey
        ljdickey@water.waterloo.edu
 
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Date: 14 Feb 90 09:22:23 GMT
From: mcsun!unido!infbs!tubsibr!hafer@uunet.uu.net  (Udo Hafermann)
Subject: Tick-tick-tick-CRASH! is not dead in TOS 1.4
Message-ID: <1990Feb14.092223.6082@tubsibr.uucp>
 
csbrod@medusa.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Claus Brod ) writes:
 
>The bug also occurs in TEMPUS 2.0, so it's not a proprietary GST bug.
 
Add Calamus to the list.  Calamus likes to crash for all sorts of
reasons, but yesterday it definitely was the phantom typist. (Including
the effect that you had to move the mouse slightly to get the system
to react to keys and/or menu selections.)
 
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Date: 14 Feb 90 21:32:28 GMT
From:
 zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!neat.cs
 .toronto.edu!omicron.cs.fsu.edu!fsucs.cs.fsu.edu!boyd@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu
 (Mickey Boyd)
Subject: zoo problems
Message-ID: <9002142131.AA19798@fsucs.cs.fsu.edu>
 
In article <9221@cbnewsm.ATT.COM>, wao@cbnewsm.ATT.COM (william.a.oswald,alc,)
 writes:
>Has anyone on the net successfully unpacked a zoo file
>(anything.zoo) using any of the available zoo programs?
>I have down loaded several .zoo files using XMODEM and
>KERMIT and have tried to unpack them using several ZOO
>programs (booz for example). Nothing works. I always
>get a CRC error.
>
>Thanks
>Bill wao@cbnewsm.att.com
>     wao@aloft.att.com
 
I have done so.  I first used booz to unpack zoo.ttp, which I drive using
Arcshell 2.?.  Worked fine for me, perhaps xmodem and kermit are the problem.
 
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              Mickey Boyd            |    "Nobody can be exactly like me.
         FSU Computer Science        |      Even I have trouble doing it."
      mail:  boyd@fsucs.cs.fsu.edu   |              - Tallulah Bankhead
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