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INFO-ATARI16 Digest         Wed, 14 Feb 90       Volume 90 : Issue  203
 
Today's Topics:
          (repost) POOLFIX3.ARC - fix to TOS 1.4 and STe TOS
                Backup-software (cheap = pirate copy?)
                Becoming an Official Atari Developer!
                         Looking for a drive
                        Looking for Assembler
                  Manipulation of Courtroom Evidence
                      Neodesk trashcan accessory
                        Non-PD Music programs
                          PC SPEED problems
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Date: 13 Feb 90 13:21:58 GMT
From: mcsun!unido!laura!hh%trillian@uunet.uu.net
Subject: (repost) POOLFIX3.ARC - fix to TOS 1.4 and STe TOS
Message-ID: <1979@laura.UUCP>
 
Path: trillian
!hh
 
In article <4284@brahma.cs.hw.ac.uk> neil@cs.hw.ac.uk (Neil Forsyth) writes:
>In article <BAMMI.90Jan30155547@dsrgsun.ces.CWRU.Edu>
>bammi@dsrgsun.ces.CWRU.Edu (Jwahar R. Bammi) writes:
>>apratt: how about sending out a binary diffs (a convenient way is to
>>hexdump, and send out context diffs of the hexdumps) from the t1.4
>>image, that fixes these problem, so that those of us with eproms can
>>fix them.
>
>I doubt if Atari are going to buy this idea, nice though it is. I would prefer
>if they started shipping out complete fixed images to subsiduaries now. Just
>like they did with TOS1.6 when they found some real showstopping bugs.
 
Hey, what? Did they? Where can I get them? I hope I need not send my
precious STE to Atari.
 
Snail mail:        | E mail: hh@trillian.informatik.uni-dortmund.de
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D-4600 Dortmund 50 | Computers do not ring!        -Tanenbaum
 
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Date: Wed, 14 Feb 90 21:51
From: "O. Steinmeier"
 <UK14%DKAUNI2.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: Backup-software (cheap = pirate copy?)
Message-ID: <"90-02-14-21:51:56.83*UK14"@DKAUNI2.BITNET>
 
In <8533@pogo.WV.TEK.COM> bluneski@pogo.WV.TEK.COM (Bob Luneski)
writes:
 
> In <"90-02-09-11:06:10.92*UK14"@DKAUNI2.BITNET> O. Steinmeier writes:
 
>>...
>>So, if you know a reliable, fast, cheap (PD or shareware preferred)
>>harddisk backup program, would you send me a message?
 
> So you want it to be fast, reliable, and do everything but wash the
  kitchen sink but you don't want to pay for it????  Typical.
 
I'm a bit surprised about your reaction. A lot of people answered my
request and recommended TURTLE, so I believe it might be really good.
 
It's true: I want to use a *fast* backup-program, because I would
not like to spend several hours on saving the information on my
80 MB-harddisk. I wrote a backup-program myself a few years ago and
it was not very fast (but reliable).
 
It's true: The backup program, I'm looking for, should be reliable.
I hope it will never be necessary to use the backup, but if I need it,
the restore-option should work without problems.
 
It's true: I'm looking for a cheap program. As mentioned before, I
wrote my own program. I also bought two different backup-programs
with my harddisks - both seem to be slow and/or unreliable. Next I
tried to use the BACKUP-command of MS-DOS 4.01 (my PC-SPEED works fine).
It's really fast and seemed to be reliable, but it also has a bug.
It is impossible to save a file which contains a German Umlaut in
it's filename. Instead of storing the file, BACKUP starts to ask
for new disks permanently.
 
It's NOT true, that I do not want to pay for the 'perfect' backup-
program. I only asked for a cheap program. Why should I ask for an
expensive one? A shareware product is not free, so your reproach is
is surprising (I always pay the registration fee, if I use the
program regularily). Why should I buy an expensive program, if
I could get a cheaper one (or a public domain program), which is
as good as a commercial product?
 
In my opinion it's ATARI's job to deliver a useful backup program
with their harddisks (the German harddisk-manual only advises
the proud owner to copy important files on disks).
 
By the way: In the last 4 1/2 years, I bought (!!) a lot of
software for my ATARI! I do *not* support piracy (if you meant this)!
And I usually manage  to clean the kitchen sink myself!
 
Thanks to those, who gave me helpful hints. And also thanks to
those, who answered to Bob Luneskis mail (Timothy Roeder (yes, it's
Mr. Steinmeier), H.C. Johnson, etc.) - I appreciated your support!
 
I think we should stop the discussion, it only wastes time and
money (if you would like to continue, email me!).
 
Oliver Steinmeier
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Disclaimer: Everything I wrote might be wrong, even this!
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Oliver Steinmeier                     (UK14@DKAUNI2.BITNET)
Waldhornstrasse 4-8
D-7500 Karlsruhe, FRG
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Date: 14 Feb 90 17:35:13 GMT
From: mintaka!ogicse!blake!ramsiri@think.com  (Enartloc Nhoj)
Subject: Becoming an Official Atari Developer!
Message-ID: <5754@blake.acs.washington.edu>
 
In article <489b42d9.14a1f@force.UUCP> covertr@force.UUCP (Richard E. Covert)
 writes:
>The following are notes about becoming an Official Atari ST Developer in
>
>I called Gail Johnson in early January 1990 to inquire about becoming an
 Official
>Atari ST/TT Developer. I was sent a large envlope withing a week. The envelope
> Richard E. Covert, Lead Engineer of Software Tools Group
> AG Communications Systems, Phoenix AZ   (602) - 581-4652
> TCP/IP: covertr@gtephx
> UUCP: ?ncar!noao!asuvax | uunet!zardoz!hrc | att?!gtephx!covertr
 
 
I had the identical experience recently.. and my opinions
were much the same as Richard's.
 
Frankly, condidering
the state ATARI is in these days...
Seems more reasonable to make the developer's kit
robust, cheap and thorough.
 
ATARI needs to attract as many good developer's
as possible.  All i read regarding developer
support is a great sense of frustration and
resultant indignation.
 
Can ATARI "afford" to be this way?
 
-kevin
ramsiri@blake.acs.washington.edu
 
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Date: 14 Feb 90 20:51:19 GMT
From: brunix!gbs@uunet.uu.net  (Geoff Speare)
Subject: Looking for a drive
Message-ID: <29292@brunix.UUCP>
 
I recently had my ST drive burn out (yahoo), and am looking for a replacement.
I had a single sided, but would be quite happy with a double if the price was
right.  Anyone looking to sell?  Please mail me, or write/call.  My address:
 
Geoff Speare
54 John St.
Providence, RI 02906
 
Phone (401)-521-0864
 
Thanks a bunch,
                Geoff Speare
 
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Date: 13 Feb 90 07:56:44 GMT
From: mcsun!unido!laura!klute%heike.informatik.uni-dortmund.de@uunet.uu.net
 (Rainer Klute)
Subject: Looking for Assembler
Message-ID: <1977@laura.UUCP>
 
In article <9002110802.AA09174@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> AD0834@ALBNYVMS.BITNET
 writes:
>        I am looking for a PD assembler, does anyone know where I could
>find one?
 
Get Jas from the Sozobon C package.
 
  Dipl.-Inform. Rainer Klute      klute@heike.informatik.uni-dortmund.de
  Univ. Dortmund, IRB             klute@unido.uucp, klute@unido.bitnet
  Postfach 500500         |)|/    ...uunet!mcvax!unido!klute
D-4600 Dortmund 50        |\|\    Tel.: +49 231 755-4663
 
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Date: 14 Feb 90 16:40:38 GMT
From: voder!pyramid!wniren@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (Walter Nirenberg)
Subject: Manipulation of Courtroom Evidence
Message-ID: <102034@pyramid.pyramid.com>
 
Hi.  My friend is a 2nd year law student and she is working on a
fascinating project with which she needs a little help.
 
Basically, she is investigating the impact of recent computer
graphics technology advances on the use of video and photographs as
courtroom evidence.  As many of you may know, it has been possible
over the past few years to manipulate photographs and videos at
a bit-level using new generations of graphics computers.  The results
are that you can completely alter what these media display.
 
A somewhat recent example is a past National Geographic
magazine where the editors actually moved some scenery closer together
on the cover photo to make everything fit in the small space available.
This was done using some expensive computer equipment which digitized
the picture enabling them to manipulate the photo so well that the
modifications were completely undetectable.
 
To take this further, the equipment to do this type of work has been
very expensive in the past.  Now, with machines like the Amiga and the
Atari ST, anyone with a few thousand dollars can do this kind of work.
 
Photos and videos are still admissable as courtroom evidence in most
situations.  However, with these new "advances", can we trust these
forms any more?  Think of the impact..a criminal could possibly be
let loose based on a photo showing someone else perpetrating the crime.
Newspapers and TV networks could change what the public sees.  We're
talking about a tremendous potential for "disinformation" to quote
our wonderful government (by the way, isn't that a fancy word to mean
"to lie"?).
 
So.  What we need is information of a technical and intellectual
nature pertaining to this topic.  Is there software available for
these inexpensive machines to enable average people to do this?
Has anyone seen examples of this kind of manipulation?  etc.
 
Thanks in advance and please cc replies to my mail address:
 
wniren@pyrtech.pyramid.com
 
Walter Nirenberg,
Pyramid Technology,
(415)335-8730
 
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Date: 12 Feb 90 14:58:11 GMT
From: mcsun!unido!gmdzi!focke@uunet.uu.net  (Stefan Focke)
Subject: Neodesk trashcan accessory
Message-ID: <2015@gmdzi.UUCP>
 
Hello,
 
can anyone tell what this accessory is good for?
 
Thanks
 
    Stefan
 
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Date: 14 Feb 90 17:33:42 GMT
From: matthews@umd5.umd.edu  (Mike Matthews)
Subject: Non-PD Music programs
Message-ID: <6122@umd5.umd.edu>
 
In article <7388@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> g4r@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Drew Burnett)
 writes:
>
>  Ok, since no one can recommend a good PD-ware music program to play .sng
>files, can anyone recommend any music programs that will play .sng files?
>-------------------------------------------------------------
 
Yeah, how about Music Studio?  :-)
 
There was a PD .sng file player, but it wasn't very good.
 
This is assuming we're talking about Music Studio .sng files; I seem to remem-
ber there being another program that used .sng as its extender.
 
Mike
 
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Date: Wed, 14 Feb 90 21:54
From: "O. Steinmeier"
 <UK14%DKAUNI2.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: PC SPEED problems
Message-ID: <"90-02-14-21:54:30.71*UK14"@DKAUNI2.BITNET>
 
In <90Feb14.070736est.57736@ugw.utcs.utoronto.ca> (Issue #199)
Greg Csullog reported some problems with his PC-SPEED (the
letter is too long to reprint it here).
 
The problem which occurs when you type too fast, sounds familar.
You should not use the MS-DOS KEYB-program. The keymap-installation
is done by PC-SPEED itself (choose your keyboard in PCS_INST).
Also you should not use any MS-DOS tools to change the
repeat-rate of your keyboard. I hope these hints will help you.
 
I can send your info to Hansjoerg Sack, the developer of PC-SPEED,
but I guess it would be useful for him to know something about
your computer model. You can email this information directly to me.
 
Oliver
 
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Disclaimer: Everything I wrote might be wrong, even this!
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Oliver Steinmeier                     (UK14@DKAUNI2.BITNET)
Waldhornstrasse 4-8
D-7500 Karlsruhe, FRG
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