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INFO-ATARI16 Digest         Mon, 19 Feb 90       Volume 90 : Issue  229
 
Today's Topics:
                         Club pirating orgies
                             FORMDIAL.PRG
                       GNU C, ST cross compiler
                              PCDITTO II
                      Phasar vs Quicken (on DOS)
                Screen Blanker in the style of 'Stars'
                       SID trio sound digitizer
             STuff for sale, hard drive and floppy drive
                Wanted: 520st.. please send me mail...
                     What's a filename.Z archive?
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Date: 19 Feb 90 09:05:58 GMT
From: pacbell!sactoh0!mfolivo@ames.arc.nasa.gov  (Mark F. Newton)
Subject: Club pirating orgies
Message-ID: <2585@sactoh0.UUCP>
 
In article <361@VAX1.CC.UAKRON.EDU>, weaver@VAX1.CC.UAKRON.EDU (weaver) writes:
> In article <2554@sactoh0.UUCP> mfolivo@sactoh0.UUCP (Mark F. Newton) writes:
> >
> >Heck, if you really want to make a difference, don't just write a
> >letter,or make an announcement saying you're clean, the pirate
> >boards just laugh in your face anyway, what do they care?
> >
> >Heck, just infiltrate the bloody organization, and format their
> >hard disk, or palm an indistrial magnet, and run them over the
> >disks... Plant worms, viruses, program new viruses to screw up their
> >systems. Do something, rather than point and hope someone does
> >something.
>
> This is a good way to get yourself prosecuted. A better way would be to get
> the names of the people doing the pirating, the software packages
 
I very much *doubt* that. And by whom? "Oh Mr. DA, I run a BBS full
of illegally copied software, and this guy planted a worm and
formatted my drive..."
 
Yeah, right. Actually, I would rather get some friends of mine, the
torpedo twins, Guido and Tony, to format their system.
 
That would probably be more effective, as pirates have backups of
software, but not many pirates have backups of their faces...
 
Yeah, I'd like to see some dweeb bithead who doesn't have a life
file a complaint against someone who "persuades" them not to post
copyright software.
 
 
--
                             Mark Newton-John
   (ames att sun)!pacbell! \      Sakura-mendo, CA
           ucdavis!csusac! - sactoh0!mfolivo
              uunet!mmsac! /      the good guys!
 
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Date: 19 Feb 90 15:27:40 GMT
From:
 uwm.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!samsung!cs.utexas.edu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu
 !utgpu!barry@lll-winken.llnl.gov  (Barry Lay)
Subject: FORMDIAL.PRG
Message-ID: <1990Feb19.152740.25487@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca>
 
[remarks about my remarks about forms handling ... ]
 
You are right; I meant form_dial().  The application will not receive a
WM_REDRAW message for handle 0 (desktop).  For this reason I usually open a
window which covers the entire desktop work area when I am "drawing directly
on the desktop".  Since there is only one window, and it doesn't have any
sliders, movers, or other such nasty stuff, it isn't very difficult to deal
with.  The only way I can think of to intercept the desktop redraw is to create
your own desktop object and declare it via wind_set(WF_NEWTOP, ... ).  I can't
say that I have ever tried this, but I suspect that it would be more difficult
than opening a big window.
 
Barry
 
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Date: 18 Feb 90 15:39:34 GMT
From: ndsuvm1!mtus5!mccabe@cunyvm.cuny.edu  (Jim McCabe)
Subject: GNU C, ST cross compiler
Message-ID: <90049.103934MCCABE@MTUS5.BITNET>
 
I have recently reviewed some of the information about the ST port of
GNU C and am *extremely* impressed!  I'd like to use the package soon,
but I would prefer to write and compile my code on a Sun, then transfer
the binaries over to my ST later.
 
How difficult would this be?  Will the package compile normally on the
standard Sun C compiler?  Any help would be appreciated.
 
If possible, send me mail directly (to MCCABE@MTUS5.BITNET) since I don't
get the chance to read these groups as often as I like...
 
 
                                                Jim McCabe
                                                MCCABE @ MTUS5.BITNET
 
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Date: 19 Feb 90 17:11:18 GMT
From: cs.utexas.edu!usc!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!jato!whoffman@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu
 (Walt Hoffman)
Subject: PCDITTO II
Message-ID: <2869@jato.Jpl.Nasa.Gov>
 
In article <2749@isc-br.ISC-BR.COM> lawrence@isc-br.ISC-BR.COM (Lawrence Kelly)
 writes:
>In article <2848@jato.Jpl.Nasa.Gov> whoffman@jato.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (Walt Hoffman)
 writes:
>>I received my PCDitto II about 2 weeks ago.  I installed it into my 1meg 520ST
>>and it didn't work.
>
>Can you tell me when you sent in your card so I can estimate when I might get
>mine?  I waited until 10-15-89 to send mine in.  AG is sending the PCD II out
>in the same order the cards were received.
>
>Thanks, lawrence
 
I sent my order in around September 2.  A copy of my order form was packed with
my board and had a number 643 written on it.  That probably was my number in
the queue for my order.  (I don't remember the exact number but it was in the
mid-600's.)  AG encountered problems of their boards not working on all STs
due to differences in timing between machines.  They have a 2-chip fix for it,
and maybe they will install it on yours before they ship it.  That could save
you some time.
 
 
I have a 520ST
with 1 meg and it was quite a job getting it to fit.  I had to cut the center
post off the ST case so I could install it without interfering with the
keyboard electronics.  It does fix but takes some creativity and determination
to find the right spot.  If it works as well as PCditto I only faster, I will
be extremely happy.
 
--
Were these parsnips CORRECTLY MARINATED in TACO SAUCE?
 
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Date: 19 Feb 90 16:30:38 GMT
From:
 snorkelwacker!usc!cs.utexas.edu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!utgpu!romwa@tut.cis.ohi
 o-state.edu  (Royal Ontario Museum)
Subject: Phasar vs Quicken (on DOS)
Message-ID: <1990Feb19.163038.27471@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca>
 
Does anyone have any comparisons on small personal finance programs?
I would like to go for Phasar for the ST, but Quicken has received rave
reviews, and more importantly is half the price of Phasar.  If I get
Quicken I would run it under PC-DITTO.  (Interface isn't too bad
either.  I think they are using the C-Worthy library).
 
advTHANKSance
 
Pavneet Arora
...!utgpu!rom!pavneet
 
         or
 
rom!pavneet@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca
 
Royal Ontario Museum
100 Queen's Park
Toronto, Ontario
M5S 2C6
(416) 586-5626
 
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Date: 19 Feb 90 18:00:59 GMT
From:
 zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!samsung!cs.utexas.edu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!neat.cs
 .toronto.edu!omicron.cs.fsu.edu!fsucs.cs.fsu.edu!boyd@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu
 (Mickey Boyd)
Subject: Screen Blanker in the style of 'Stars'
Message-ID: <9002191801.AA09666@fsucs.cs.fsu.edu>
 
In article <9002170705.AA25353@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU>, SOCS18@vaxb.york.ac.UK
 (Vision Newspapers) writes:
 
>.....stuff deleted about a neat screen saver he wrote
>
>It's an accessory written in assembler, but I could attempt to post a uuencoded
>version of the ARChive, if anybody is interested. (I can't access the .binaries
>group...)
>
>Mat
>***********************************************************************
>* c/o Dept. Computer Science   * "Baldrick, fetch me a turkey _so    *
>* University of York           * big_, you'd have thought its mother *
>* Heslington                   * had been rodgered by an Omnibus"    *
>* York                         *                                     *
>* YO1 5DD                      * JANET : SOCS18@uk.ac.york.vaxa      *
>***********************************************************************
 
I am very interested.  Please send me a copy, I can attempt to post it to
the binaries group for you (if I can?!?).
 
--
 
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              Mickey Boyd            |    "Nobody can be exactly like me.
         FSU Computer Science        |      Even I have trouble doing it."
      mail:  boyd@fsucs.cs.fsu.edu   |              - Tallulah Bankhead
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Date: 19 Feb 90 09:32:35 GMT
From:
 zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!samsung!aplcen!jhunix!ins_bac@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu
 (Ajay Choudhri)
Subject: SID trio sound digitizer
Message-ID: <4278@jhunix.HCF.JHU.EDU>
 
I picked up the sharware article on building a digitzer(sound) for the MAC
published and designed by the SID Trio, and its relatively cheap(20$)
I have been goosing about cartridge port projects and I think this is perfect.
Anyone care to adapt this to an ST??
I'd really like to do some sound digitizing but The STREplay cartridge price
doesn't warrant it.
anyone have a design+software worth gabbing about??
 
Well its worth a try
 
-Ajay
 
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Date: 19 Feb 90 17:19:46 GMT
From: shlump.nac.dec.com!lowlif.dec.com!gilliam@decwrl.dec.com
Subject: STuff for sale, hard drive and floppy drive
Message-ID: <8483@shlump.nac.dec.com>
 
In article <26987@cup.portal.com>, Xorg@cup.portal.com (Peter Ted Szymonik)
 writes...
>For Sale:
>---------
>
>ICD FaST 50-meg hard drive  $575
>Or buy them both for $675!  I'm selling these guys because I find
>myself using Spectre GCR and SuperCharger a lot and I'd like to
>have a removable hard drive so I can have one platter for each type
>
>Thanx
>Pete
>GEnie:  DIPLOMACY-1
>CIS:    72637,2272
>UseNet: xorg@cup.portal.com
 
You're using SuperCharger? Did you purchase it in the U.S.? If so, when and
what did you pay? Could you comment on its features, installation (DMA port
plug-in?), documentation etc. Are you daisy-chaining it off the DMA port? If
so, what are the restrictions? Have you used other PC emulators? How does it
compare? I know it's available in Europe. The last I heard from Talon
Technologies it was supposed to go through FCC testing in February 90.
 
---
Mason Gilliam
                (INTERNET,UUCP) gilliam@star.enet.dec.com
                (UUCP)          ...!decwrl!star.enet!gilliam
                (INTERNET)      gilliam%star.enet@decwrl.dec.com
---
 
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Date: 19 Feb 90 16:59:02 GMT
From: usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!rpi!image.soe.clarkson.edu!rob@ucsd.edu
 (Rob Logan)
Subject: Wanted: 520st.. please send me mail...
Message-ID: <1990Feb19.165902.2434@sun.soe.clarkson.edu>
 
I need a st anything to run a RC flight sym... sooner the better.
 
                        Rob
 
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Date: 19 Feb 90 15:54:44 GMT
From: tramp!millert@boulder.colorado.edu  (MILLER TODD C)
Subject: What's a filename.Z archive?
Message-ID: <17138@boulder.Colorado.EDU>
 
OK, I'm sure this has been answered before in this newsgroup, so please forgive
 me.  (I only got my ST 4 days ago) Anyway, I was going to ftp some stuff from
 wuarchive.wustl.edu and I noticed that all the archives ended with a .Z
 extender.  What do I need to unarc these type files? (I've got ARC and ZOO).
 Any help  would be greatly appreciated.
                              Thanks in advance.
                                                 -Todd
 
+------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
|                 Todd Miller - millert@tramp.Colorado.EDU                     |
|Some get stoned, some get strange.  Sooner or later it all gets real. Walk on.|
+---------------------------------\Neil Young/---------------------------------+
 
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