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INFO-ATARI16 Digest         Fri,  2 Feb 90       Volume 90 : Issue  143
 
Today's Topics:
        In DEFENSE of MAGNAVOX...Where's the Facts??? (2 msgs)
                               SAMPLERS
                          TURBO-C Question!
              wierd...problems and a benign? anti-virus
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Date: 1 Feb 90 14:44:37 GMT
From: dsl.pitt.edu!pitt!cuphub!kar7481@pt.cs.cmu.edu  (Dan
 Karbowsky;AtariEliteOfPghPa bbs412-384-5609)
Subject: In DEFENSE of MAGNAVOX...Where's the Facts???
Message-ID: <3787@cuphub.cup.edu>
 
In article <1990Jan30.182032.26630@agate.berkeley.edu>,
 johnf@stew.ssl.berkeley.edu (John Flanagan) writes:
> If this is the same monitor which was being sold under the Commodore
> nameplate as the 1084 for a while, it is junk.  Ask any 1084 owner
 
WHY is it "JUNK"? maybe you could enlighten me(us) on this...
I have had NO PROBLEMS WHATSOEVER with mine. (It is a year newer than the
Commodore-1084 model that Magnavox made--but for all intents and purposes,
it's the same monitor...)
 
> (like me).  Commodore eventually dropped Magnavox as their manufacturer
> and went back to whoever made their original Amiga monitors (Phillips,
 maybe?).
 
Maybe you should do your research a little better commode-door owner!
 
PHILLIPS CORP. IS THE PARENT COMPANY OF MAGNAVOX!!!
Therefore: If you got a Phillips (mostly in U.K.) monitor, you got yerself
           a Magnavox...
 
I WOULD like it if you would post the "PROBLEMS" you and "OTHERS" had with it
and WHY IT WAS SO "TERRIBLE"...
 
>
> John Flanagan                         Space Sciences Laboratory
> johnf@sag4.ssl.berkeley.edu           University of California
> (...!ucbvax!sag4.ssl!johnf)           Berkeley, CA 94720
> Manners Maketh Man.                   (415) 643-6308
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Date: 2 Feb 90 07:31:45 GMT
From: cs.utexas.edu!usc!brutus.cs.uiuc.edu!rpi!pawl!kudla@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu
  (Robert J. Kudla)
Subject: In DEFENSE of MAGNAVOX...Where's the Facts???
Message-ID: <A124R_@rpi.edu>
 
In <3787@cuphub.cup.edu> kar7481@cuphub.cup.edu (Dan Karbowsky;AtariEliteOfPghPa
 bbs412-384-5609) writes:
(in response to someone saying how terrible the 1084 is)
 
Just to avoid any confusion, I'd like to say right off that you're a
dick. Second, advertising ELITE BBSES!!!!!! in your name is generally
regarded as being juvenile, especially if you're posting to the net
and said ELITE BBS!!!!! is a pirate board. Finally, you should really
take care of that Caps Lock problem. Loose wires can often cause
strange artifacts such as those reproduced immediately below.
 
-> I WOULD like it if you would post the "PROBLEMS" you and "OTHERS"
-> had with it and WHY IT WAS SO "TERRIBLE"...
 
I've got a 1084, and I don't really hate it 'cause it's not a bad
monitor for video work. However, it's got a few problems like
occasionally screwing up interlaced pictures badly by, well,
de-interlacing them. The result is often an unreadable flickery
screen. You wouldn't see this because your machine only does 320x200
in color (IE on a 1084-like monitor). (Unless your ELITE!!! machine is
actually an 8-bit, in which case it's marginally less.) It can be a
pain, in any case.
 
Gotten any rad kuel bitchen new warez lately?
--
Robert Jude Kudla  <kudla@pawl.rpi.edu>
 
                 We foolish and happily hold on to sanity.
 
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Date: 1 Feb 90 12:22:10 GMT
From: mcsun!cernvax!chx400!ugun2b!ugobs!bartho@uunet.uu.net  (PAUL BARTHOLDI)
Subject: SAMPLERS
Message-ID: <539@obs.unige.ch>
 
In article <90012920243630@masnet.uucp>, barry.manning@canremote.uucp (BARRY
 MANNING) writes:
> Anyone out there know of any samplers coming out for the ST that cost a
> fortune NOT 8BIT - but 16bit ie like Replay but 16 bit with midi
> ie you run your sequencer on the st with the sampler in say the
> cartridge port and enter via a cheap cheesy keyboard . I dont wanna buy
> the far east variety at 3g's +++ they are too expensive. Come on you
> smart engineers - if its around 400 bucks - should sell like hot
> cakes. Regards Barry
> ---
 
In ST Computer (germany) september 1989, p171, is an advirtisement for
a 16 bit AS Soundsampler Maxi Plus for 588. DM (about 350$), by
KaroSoft, Juergen Vieth, Biesenstrasse 75, D-4010 Hilden, West Germany.
tel (US?) 21 03 4 20 22.
 
This seems to be what you want, and also what I want!  At least it is in
my wish list since about a year (I saw the ad earlier).
 
Now a question again to the net: has any one used such a nice beast and
could report on it.  (i am nostly interested in the hardware, not so much
with the soft to use it.)  Forth for that is GREAT !
 
                                 Paul Bartholdi,  Geneva Observatory
                                        bartho@cgeuge54.bitnet
 
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Date: 1 Feb 90 17:00:39 GMT
From: mcsun!unido!ztivax!tumuc!guug!pcsbst!@uunet.uu.net  (Roland Rambau)
Subject: TURBO-C Question!
Message-ID: <1990Feb1.170039.14207@pcsbst.pcs.com>
 
joep@tnosoes.UUCP (Joep Mathijssen) writes:
 
->I'm trying to compile 'BISON' on my ST using the TURBO-C compiler. After
->a few changes the compilation was successful, but the linker still gives
->some weird errors.
 
->     "16 bit PC relative overflow"
 
->How can I solve this problem without changing compiler? Is there
->an option that I don't know.
 
There is a suitable option, but don't expect me to remember its name.
 
->Or SHOULD I use another compiler? The only one I'm prepared to use
->is the GCC-compiler. But will this compiler work correct on an 1MB atari.
 
No, TC is (very) okay.
 
 
--
             I know that You believe You understand what You think I said, but
             I'm not sure You realize that what You heard is not what I meant.
 
Roland Rambau
 
  rra@cochise.pcs.com,   ?unido|pyramid?!pcsbst!rra,   2:507/414.2.fidonet
             I know that You believe You understand what You think I said, but
             I'm not sure You realize that what You heard is not what I meant.
 
Roland Rambau
 
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Date: 1 Feb 90 12:26:29 GMT
From: cs.utexas.edu!usc!srhqla!quad1!ttidca!woodside@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu
 (George Woodside)
Subject: wierd...problems and a benign? anti-virus
Message-ID: <9465@ttidca.TTI.COM>
 
In article <4072@jhunix.HCF.JHU.EDU> ins_bac@jhunix.UUCP (Ajay Choudhri) writes:
...[edited]...
>Secondly, I have no clue where the damn thing came from but I seemed to have
>caught a virus..or anti-virus...
>I suspect I got it off a local bbs from a .MSA file of TeX
>when I boot-up, I get the message that this is an antivirus and it beeps and
>flashes when it encounters a disk with an executable boot sector.
>Well I have controlled the infection to only 3 disks but I would rather
>just have the AV gone.
 
From your desription, this sounds like one I am familiar with.
 
The good news is, it won't harm you. The bad news is, it does spread
just as fast as any other virus.
 
It lives in boot sectors, and installs itself in system memory when you
boot up with an infected disk. It will then spread itself to every disk
with a non-executable boot sector that passes through your ST until the
next reset or power off/on. Of course, if the disk in drive A has the
virus at that time, it gets reloaded, and continues to spread. It gets
to everything, including disks you format. I know of no way you could
have become infected except having booted your system with an infected
disk in drive A. I have not yet seen any programs which install this
(or any other) virus. They must be in the boot sector of the disk in
drive A at power up or reset to get installed, and start spreading.
 
To get rid of it, safely, you need to erase it from the boot sector of
every disk that has it. Any good virus killer will do this, without
harming the data on the disk. The tricky part is, you have to get your
system booted up without the anti-virus before you can start cleaning
it off. Since it signs on, and does not survive resets, that should't
be too difficult.
 
If you don't have a virus killer, get one. You will find them in the
archives here, on PD disks from most vendors, and in user group
libraries. My latest is still a week or so from distribution, but you
may not want to wait that long. Older versions of mine (VKILLER) will
recognize and destroy this anti-virus. The anti virus you have will
continue to spread until you get it off every disk. If just one copy
survives, sooner or later it will probably get installed, and then
spread again.
 
 
 
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* George R. Woodside - Citicorp/TTI - Santa Monica, CA *
* Path:       woodside@ttidca                          *
*   or:       ..!?philabs|csun|psivax?!ttidca!woodside *
 
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