Info-Atari16 Digest         Wed, 24 Jul 91       Volume 91 : Issue 404
 
Today's Topics:
               *=- for sale MEGA-4 -=* b/o as of Aug.10
                       Atari Mega 2 ST For Sale
            Atari Twist (Was: Plea for help <-- dead 1040!
                        Audio Players (3 msgs)
                  digittal sample playback question
                     Gemini and .APPs... (2 msgs)
                            Kings Quest IV
                     Laser driver for St-Writer?
                 Magic Shadow Archiver and Audio.MSA
               MiNT library patchlevel 10 now available
                Multisynch and other monitors (Help!)
                       OSI Personal Pascal bug
                     Plea for help <-- dead 1040!
                    Price of New Machines (2 msgs)
                Sticking a 30/60MB drive in my SH204?
                   The BEST Atari mag in the USA...
                        The demise of ST World
                       undlete util for HD????
 
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Date: 23 Jul 91 13:40:55 GMT
From: europa.asd.contel.com!gatech!pitt!cuphub!kar7481@uunet.uu.net
Subject: *=- for sale MEGA-4 -=* b/o as of Aug.10
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
FOR SALE to highest bidder:      MEGA-ST 4
 
with TOS 1.2
 
 
 
 
 
HIGHEST OFFER ACCEPTED AS OF AUGUST 10.
 
 
 
Contact this net address with mail marked "M4-BID"
with your name address and phone (work/home).
 
-Dan Karbowsky
 
 
 
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Date: 24 Jul 91 06:32:38 GMT
From:
 noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!mips!spool.mu.edu!caen!hellgate.utah.edu!c
 sn!ub!acsu.buffalo.edu@arizona.edu (erik t ray)
Subject: Atari Mega 2 ST For Sale
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
A friend of mine is taking offers on his computer:
Vanilla Mega 2 system w/SC1224 color monitor. Computer has original box
and manuals, comes with a bunch of public domain stuff plus WordUp & Fontz,
Dungeon Master (with many powerful saved characters ;-), and about 7 more
games which I don't recall at the moment. Send offers to:
 
grigsby@occs.cs.oberlin.edu
 
and mention this offer in the title. He will ship, cost of such not included
in your offer.
 
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Date: 23 Jul 91 21:38:44 GMT
From: noao!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!utgpu!watserv1!watmath!ljdickey@arizona.edu (L.
 J. Dickey)
Subject: Atari Twist (Was: Plea for help <-- dead 1040!
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
In article <1991Jul23.102843.14723@newcastle.ac.uk> D.C.Halliday@newcastle.ac.uk
 (Dave Halliday) writes:
>In article <1991Jul23.042621.9805@netcom.COM>, yonder@netcom.COM
>(Christopher Russell) writes:
>|>My ST just died.  I never had any real problems before. [...]
>
>Hay, wow this sounds like one of the common faults for early ST's. The quick
>solution is hit the machine well drop it from about 3inches onto a solid
>serface. Perhaps a little more explanation is in order. The earlyer ST's used
>lots of socketed chips and after a while the chips work a little loose, this
>causes some very flaky results much like the ones you are seeing. If the rough
>method of fixing unseated chips doesn't appeal (I don't think it does to me)
>then take the cover off the machine and simply press all the socketed back
>down.
 
Some users reported that the Atari Twist help them.  This is similar to the
three inch drop, because you hold it about that high to do the twist,
but it seems much more gentle to me.
 
        Grip the case firmly at each end.  Twist the right hand toward
        you and the Left hand away from you, flexing the case.  Then
        reverse the directions.  If the chips have not popped out, this
        flexing action might re-establish contact.
 
--
Prof Leroy J. Dickey, Faculty of Mathematics, U of Waterloo, Canada  N2L 3G1
Internet:      ljdickey@watmath.UWaterloo.ca
Obsolescent?:  ljdickey@watmath.waterloo.edu     BITNET/EARN: ljdickey@watdcs
UUCP:          ljdickey@watmath.UUCP             ...!uunet!watmath!ljdickey
 
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Date: 24 Jul 91 05:21:10 GMT
From: unhd.unh.edu!oz!k_mullin@uunet.uu.net (Keith J. Mullins)
Subject: Audio Players
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
        Hello,
 
                Is there an audio player that plays a series of
     .snd or converted files?  I have one that plays one at a
     time, but I'm looking for one that will play numerous
     sound files one after the other without reloading between
     them.  Any help would be much appreciated.  Thanks..
 
        
         k_mullin@oz.plymouth.edu
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
--
_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-
 Keith J. Mullins         k_mullin@oz.plymouth.edu
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 
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Date: 24 Jul 91 06:55:18 GMT
From: munnari.oz.au!bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au!uqcspe!cs.uq.oz.au!warwick@uunet.uu.net
 (Warwick Allison)
Subject: Audio Players
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
k_mullin@oz.plymouth.edu (Keith J. Mullins) writes:
 
>               Is there an audio player that plays a series of
>     .snd or converted files?  I have one that plays one at a
>     time, but I'm looking for one that will play numerous
>     sound files one after the other without reloading between
>     them.  Any help would be much appreciated.  Thanks..
 
 
I have written one that loads and plays simultaneously.  I'm not sure
what the transfer rate is from floppy, but from harddisk it works a charm.
The Rhythm Nation sound files are great in succession.  I guess you'd only
have to transfer 10K per second or so - floppies are that fast aren't they?
 
Also, it gives you the option of not calling them .snd files, but renaming
them to .<100HZ> files where eg., bell.80 would play at 8KHz.  Of course,
you can ask it to play them at any speed with command-line options.
 
I will uploaded it to atari.archive as soon as the Holy Trinity is fullfilled
(I'm at home, No-one is on the phone, and I remember).  Before I do, get in
quick and tell me anything else that should be added, considering it is NOT
a GEM application (is there a need for one?)
 
 
Ciao,
Warwick.
--
  _-_|\       warwick@cs.uq.oz.au
 /     *  <-- Computer Science Department,
 \_.-._/      University of Queensland,
      v       Brisbane, AUSTRALIA.
 
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Date: 24 Jul 91 11:24:41 GMT
From: munnari.oz.au!bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au!uqcspe!cs.uq.oz.au!warwick@uunet.uu.net
 (Warwick Allison)
Subject: Audio Players
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
In <2647@uqcspe.cs.uq.oz.au> warwick@cs.uq.oz.au (Warwick Allison) writes:
 
>I will uploaded it to atari.archive as soon as the Holy Trinity is fullfilled
>(I'm at home, No-one is on the phone, and I remember).  Before I do, get in
>quick and tell me anything else that should be added, considering it is NOT
>a GEM application (is there a need for one?)
 
Viola!  I remembered - I've just uploaded it.  Man page and all.
 
Called "mplay.arc" to avoid confusion with Dave's "play" program.
 
And yes, it does load and play well from floppies.
 
Enjoy,
Ciao,
Warwick.
--
  _-_|\       warwick@cs.uq.oz.au
 /     *  <-- Computer Science Department,
 \_.-._/      University of Queensland,
      v       Brisbane, AUSTRALIA.
 
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Date: 23 Jul 91 21:30:57 GMT
From:
 noao!asuvax!ukma!rex!samsung!usc!jarthur!nntp-server.caltech.edu!nntp-server.ca
 ltech.edu!trux@arizona.edu (Flem Snopes)
Subject: digittal sample playback question
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
Hello ST community,
  I wonder if anyone knows anything about how digitized sounds are played back
on an Atari ST.  I have a digitizer for my IBM which produces a file of size
[4000 Bytes for each second of digitized sound].  I want to use these files
with my ST.  Each byte corresponds to one of 256 different voltage levels
to be applied to an analog speaker.  A large difference between two
consecutive bytes produces a loud 'click' and a small difference produces
a small click.
 
  I tried playing a constant tone over the Atari's speaker and setting the
volume (0..15) 4000 times per second, but this has 1/16th the resolution
of my digitized sample and the replay quality is VERY poor.
 
  I know that impressive digital replay is possible on the ST, any ideas
how?
 
Thank you,
-trux
(trux@through.ugcs.caltech.edu)
--
****************************************************************
* Flem Snopes                                                  *
* Dabney 1-58       " From childhood's hour I have not been    *
* Caltech             As others were--I have not seen          *
* Pasadena, CA        As others saw--I could not bring         *
* 91126               My passions from a common spring-- "     *
*                                                              *
* trux@swedish.chef.bork.bork.bork.ugcs.caltech.edu            *
****************************************************************
 
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Date: 24 Jul 91 01:12:34 GMT
From:
 noao!ncar!asuvax!ukma!rex!samsung!dali.cs.montana.edu!rpi!news-server.csri.toro
 nto.edu!bonnie.concordia.ca!ccu.umanitoba.ca!umhagma1@arizona.edu (Dr.
 Phrancinstyne)
Subject: Gemini and .APPs...
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
Excuse my stupidity, but what are (and how do you use) .APP files?
That's all that Gemini comes as and it confuses me.
 
Also, Gemini is only supposed to work with TOS 1.02 or greater.  I'm
really not sure what TOS version I have.  I tried using TOSVERS.PRG and
it told me that I have TOS 1.0.  It could be correct but I'm unsure.
I have a 520STfm which had an old single sided floppy built in.
 
Can anyone give me info?
 
Thanks.
Brett
umhagma1@ccu.umanitoba.ca
 
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Date: 24 Jul 91 04:00:27 GMT
From:
 noao!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!sun-barr!lll-winken!iggy.GW.Vitalink.COM!widener!dsin
 c!unix.cis.pitt.edu!rjast1@arizona.edu (Robert J Anisko)
Subject: Gemini and .APPs...
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
In article <1991Jul24.011234.12997@ccu.umanitoba.ca> umhagma1@ccu.umanitoba.ca
 (Dr. Phrancinstyne) writes:
>Excuse my stupidity, but what are (and how do you use) .APP files?
>That's all that Gemini comes as and it confuses me.
>
>Also, Gemini is only supposed to work with TOS 1.02 or greater.  I'm
>really not sure what TOS version I have.  I tried using TOSVERS.PRG and
>it told me that I have TOS 1.0.  It could be correct but I'm unsure.
>I have a 520STfm which had an old single sided floppy built in.
 
  APP files are basically the same thing as PRG files (you runthem the
same,etc).  Look at your DESKTOP.INF file, and notice that the line
with *.PRG and the line with *.APP are virtually identical...
 
  As for your TOS version, it probably is TOS 1.0.  You could
either upgrade to 1.4 (recommended) or I believe use the VENUS
file instead of GEMINI (very similar, but I think with a couple
options missing)...
 
                                        Robert Anisko
                                        rjast1@unix.cis.pitt.edu
 
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Date: 24 Jul 91 04:29:25 GMT
From: munnari.oz.au!metro!macuni!suna!ahendo@uunet.uu.net (Ashley Henderson)
Subject: Kings Quest IV
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
Does anyone know how to satisfy the ghost baby and get behind the waterfall
in Kings Quest IV ? I've tried for ages and I'm stuffed if I can.
 
    thanks in advance .
 
 
--
  _-_|\       ahendo@suna.mqcc.mq.oz.au
 /     \      Computing Services,                 My opinions are mine.
 \_.-._/<---  Macquarie University,               Worthless,crazy and even
      v       Sydney, AUSTRALIA.                  stupid, but MINE.
 
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Date: 23 Jul 91 21:34:43 GMT
From:
 bonnie.concordia.ca!nstn.ns.ca!morgan.ucs.mun.ca!garfield!carlos@uunet.uu.net
 (Carlos Borges)
Subject: Laser driver for St-Writer?
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
Where can I find a laserjet or postscript driver for ST-Writer (version
4.1) ?
--
\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
C. Miguel Borges             |||        Memorial University of Newfoundland
carlos@garfield.cs.mun.ca    ||| ATARI  St. John's, Newfoundland
an630@Cleveland.Freenet.edu / | \       Canada.
 
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Date: 23 Jul 91 19:20:09 GMT
From: mnemosyne.cs.du.edu!isis.cs.du.edu!jbunch@uunet.uu.net (John Bunch)
Subject: Magic Shadow Archiver and Audio.MSA
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
Hello,
 
I would like to try out audio on terminator, but it is in an lzh
archive and is MSA'ed.  I have no problems un-lzh'ing it, but cannot
for the life of me get it from the MSA file to disk....  I have tried
numerous times to no avail.  I would really like to try this program.
Would anyone be willing to just arc/lzh the disk without MSA for me?
 
John.
--
John B Bunch              *  I don't want the world, I just want your
771 Madison Ave Apt.2e.   *     half....     -TMG
Albany, NY 12208          *                     jbunch@isis.cs.du.edu
 
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Date: 24 Jul 91 03:37:11 GMT
From:
 noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!usc!rpi!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!helios.physic
 s.utoronto.ca!julian!ria.ccs.uwo.ca!ersmith@arizona.edu (Eric Smith)
Subject: MiNT library patchlevel 10 now available
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
I've uploaded the source code and binaries for the patchlevel 10 of
the MiNT library to atari.archive, in the mint directory. There are
a *lot* of changes from patchlevel 8; most are cosmetic (removing
various compiler warnings) but there are some significant bug fixes
as well.
 
Most notable of the fixed bugs was one in open(); the old version was
passing the "mode" argument unchanged to Fopen. This was a *very* bad
thing to do; in fact, only the lower 2 bits (O_RDWR, etc.) should
be passed. It doesn't matter (much) in the current version of MiNT,
but it could cause very severe problems in future versions of MiNT.
I would strongly suggest that you recompile all your MiNT programs
with the newer library (or at least with a fixed open()) so that
the transition to MiNT 0.9 won't be quite as painful :-(.
 
Other changes include drastic changes to the include files to handle
prototypes more easily, and to improve portability to other compilers.
I've also incorporated many of the changes to the "standard" gcc
library that Jwahar Bammi has been maintaining (thanks, bammi!).
--
Eric R. Smith           ersmith@julian.uwo.ca   ersmith@uwovax.bitnet
 
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Date: 23 Jul 91 18:56:06 GMT
From: rti!mozart!snoret@mcnc.org (Rick Tatem)
Subject: Multisynch and other monitors (Help!)
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
First of all, I want to say thanks to those of you kind enough
to send replies to my Video Key inquiry.  Your help is greatly
appreciated!
 
Anyway... Does anyone have any (reasonable) suggestions,
recommendations, tips, leads, etc. on a good multisynch
or other compatible monitor for a 1040STf?  I am on a
budget, but I don't fancy the idea of two monitors in my
tiny, cluttered home computing area.
 
Are gray-scale multisynchs any good? What makes and models
offer the most reasonable compromises between quality and
price?  Since I have an Apollo DN3500 at work (only B+W, but
great resolution), I'm not necessarily confined to color, but
would like to have all three resolutions available to me.
(But I'd like to have colors... I just would like to be able
to retain ownership of my major limbs and organs :)
 
If this info has been posted in the past, or in FAQ, please
forgive me.  I'm still really new to the net, and until
later next month, don't have ftp access to the archives.
If you'd like, you can reply directly to my e-mail address,
or to the net if it's worthwhile.
 
Thanks a whole helluva lot in advance!
 
        Rick
 
--
     /\
    |  |      Rick Tatem
    |  |      snoret@unx.sas.com
   /|  |\
 
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Date: 23 Jul 91 17:42:47 GMT
From:
 noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!convex!texsun!digi!crichmon@
 arizona.edu (Charles Richmond)
Subject: OSI Personal Pascal bug
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
I believe I have found a but in my Personal Pascal V2.0
compiler.  Since Optimized Systems Software (OSI) is no
longer in business, does anyone still support this compiler?
Can anyone direct me to the people in Germany who actually
wrote this compiler?
 
Please respond as soon as possible, because I may not have
this account much longer.
 
Thanks in advance for any help . . .
 
 
--
 
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
         Charles Richmond              crichmon@digi.lonestar.org
 
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Date: 24 Jul 91 01:49:08 GMT
From: munnari.oz.au!bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au!uqcspe!cs.uq.oz.au!warwick@uunet.uu.net
 (Warwick Allison)
Subject: Plea for help <-- dead 1040!
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
(Dave Halliday) writes:
 
>(Christopher Russell) writes:
>|>My ST just died.  I never had any real problems before.  It was just
>|>sitting there and then bam...  Buncha bombs..
 
>Hay, wow this sounds like one of the common faults for early ST's. The quick
>solution is hit the machine well drop it from about 3inches onto a solid
>serface. Perhaps a little more explanation is in order. The earlyer ST's used
>lots of socketed chips and after a while the chips work a little loose, this
>causes some very flaky results much like the ones you are seeing. If the rough
>method of fixing unseated chips doesn't appeal (I don't think it does to me)
>then take the cover off the machine and simply press all the socketed back
>down.
 
Or, if they aren't socketted, then you've probably got a dry joint that has
come loose.  I guess a good eye and a soldering iron would be the tools then.
 
I doubt it has anything to do with the power supply.  If you've got bombs, then
some OS is alive (they aren't hardware sprites :-]/:-[).
 
Warwick.
--
  _-_|\       warwick@cs.uq.oz.au
 /     *  <-- Computer Science Department,
 \_.-._/      University of Queensland,
      v       Brisbane, AUSTRALIA.
 
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Date: 23 Jul 91 19:08:17 GMT
From:
 noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!natinst!glens@arizona.edu
 (Glen Sescila)
Subject: Price of New Machines
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
        I have found a distributer in San Antonio, TX. that is selling
1040STe's (new, also note the "e"). for $379.  Is this a good price?
 
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Date: 24 Jul 91 00:48:29 GMT
From: fs7.ece.cmu.edu!crabapple.srv.cs.cmu.edu!andrew.cmu.edu!gs32+@sei.cmu.edu
 (Geoffrey Spear)
Subject: Price of New Machines
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
 Sounds like a good price to me, but I think it's possible to get a new
STe for $350 (I forget where I saw the ad though)
 
Geoffrey Spear
gs32+@andrew.cmu.edu
Carnegie Mellon Summer Pre-College
 
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Date: 24 Jul 91 04:49:00 GMT
From:
 noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!usc!rpi!dali.cs.montana.edu!uakari.primate.wisc.ed
 u!aplcen!boingo.med.jhu.edu!jhunix!d_alvear@arizona.edu (Dom Alvear)
Subject: Sticking a 30/60MB drive in my SH204?
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
HELP!
 
I've asked this before, but I lost the responses I got.
 
I would like to know if anybody has successfully upgraded the Atari SH204 to
another size.  I know that using other software like Supra's I could install
any drive I'd like, but what if I were to use Atari's HDX 3.01?
 
What are the drives that Atari uses in the Megafile 30's or 60's?  I would
like model #'s etc.
 
Thanks in advance.
 
Dom
 
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Date: 23 Jul 91 22:15:41 GMT
From: uvaarpa!murdoch!holmes.acc.Virginia.EDU!lch3e@mcnc.org (Lauren C. Howard)
Subject: The BEST Atari mag in the USA...
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
   For all those bemoaning the state of Atari magazines;
 
CURRENT NOTES has become the best Atari mag in the US bar none.  While
ostensibly a user-group mag, it is professional, thorough, VERY well-
written, unbiased, and chock full of news, reviews, and commentary.  Usually
 about 84 pages, most of it in-depth review and overview (lots more than
STart had recently).  A good PD library too.
 
$27 per year ($23 if you belong to an affiliated user group)
   from:
Current Notes, 122 N. Johnson St.,  Vienna, Va.
          (someone else please supply the ZIP; I forgot it!  Thanx)
 
I am not affiliated with them in any way;  it's just that every time I
introduce someone to it, they LOVE it, and berate me for not telling them
sooner.  I cannot reccomend it highly enough.
 
Lauren Howard,  Chief Potentate,  ACCCHU!
Atari Computer Club CHarlottesville Users!
 
ATARI ST: The computer for poor people!
 
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Date: 24 Jul 91 09:16:27 GMT
From: mcsun!ukc!newcastle.ac.uk!catless!ndch@uunet.uu.net (Dave Halliday)
Subject: The demise of ST World
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
In article <A0b8xluu@mwowm.mantis.co.uk>, mathew@mwowm.mantis.co.uk
(Million Headed Monster) writes:
|>In <1991Jul19.104543.3204@newcastle.ac.uk>, Dave Halliday writes:
|>>
|>> I'll reserve judgement on the new look ST User untill I have seen it.
|>> If the editorial staff from ST World move over to ST User it could be
|>> very good.
|>
|>Erm, the "New Look ST User" is the one which has been on the shelves for
|>the last six months.  It's marginally less crap than it used to be now that
|>the old ST World crew write for it, but it's still pretty dire.
|>
 
I couldn't agree with you more but who knows what a full merger will yeild?
 
|>Or is there a NEW new-look ST User?
 
Ar, I think it is due to change again. Games in a pull out section etc. One
thing I think they must do is get someone that knows the ST to answer to
write the Problem and letter paged, these pages are poorly written and often
simply incorrect.
 
Dave Hallliday
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Dave      Address:  Computing Dept. Newcastle University, NE1 7RU. UK.
Halliday  EMail  :  D.C.Halliday@newcastle.ac.uk
          Phone  :  +44 91 222 8214            Fax :  +44 91 222 8232
 
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Date: 23 Jul 91 13:47:15 GMT
From:
 noao!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!usc!sdd.hp.com!spool.mu.edu!agate!bionet!raven.alaska
 .edu!acad2.alaska.edu!asedm@arizona.edu
Subject: undlete util for HD????
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
Does anyone know of a good undlete utility to use with a hard-drive?
I have a Seagate with supra controller/software and TOS 1.0 :-(
if it matters...
 
I tried dlii-024 but it trashed my drive (not very helpful...)
 
I would appreciate any answers...
 
Ed Miller (asedm@acad2.alaska.edu)
 
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