Info-Atari16 Digest         Tue,  2 Jul 91       Volume 91 : Issue 369
 
Today's Topics:
                          3.5" Drive woes...
                         68000 socket adapter
                  Amiga is better then [sic] what???
                     Amiga is better then what???
                     Atari 520 ST system forsale
                                DOUBLE
             DOUBLE Version 2.01 (takes 32K less RAM !!)
                      Electrohome ECM1311 and ST
             Elvis Inserts Newlines in my Files (2 msgs)
                           High Rez Cards?
          How to install Multi-sync monitor onto Atari STe?
                   J, version 3.2, for the Atari ST
                        MINIX on an Atari TT?
                          More uw questions
                       STE mono screen 600X800?
                      Unix Windows Explanations
                         what Atari DOES have
 
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Date: 2 Jul 91 12:13:33 GMT
From: haven.umd.edu!boingo.med.jhu.edu!jhunix!d_alvear@ames.arpa (Dom Alvear)
Subject: 3.5" Drive woes...
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
HELP!
 
I just hooked up a Mitsumi 1.44MB drive to my ST.  Now, if haven't fixed the
controller yet to format 1.44MB's, but that isn't the problem.
 
It seems that my ST thinks both Drive A and B exist even though I only have one
drive!  What ever do I do to fix this?  Also, I've gotten bombs when trying to
delete stuff on a write protected disk.  I think something is afoot!
 
The drive works otherwise.  Please help me.
 
Dom
 
P.S. Has anybody seen or heard of a program that'll let you selectively turn on
or off Drive B?  i.e. you forgot to turn on Drive B and powerup, so you need to
let the ST know it exists, or you are having problems with Drive B so you want
the ST to think it isn't there.
 
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Date: 2 Jul 91 14:43:55 GMT
From: noao!ncar!hsdndev!dartvax!mars.caps.maine.edu!nic!kira!news@arizona.edu
 (Robert B. Pegram)
Subject: 68000 socket adapter
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
From article <1991Jun30.013322.26556@jato.jpl.nasa.gov>, by
 hyc@hanauma.jpl.nasa.gov (Howard Chu):
>
> Howdy - could someone please remind me where to get an adapter for fitting
> a standard DIP 68000 into the socket in an STe? (Not a Mega STe, if it
 matters.)
>
> Also, a while ago, someone mentioned seeing a board for sale that adapted a
> 68020+FPU to run in a 68000 socket. I contacted the company, and found that
> they make accelerators for Amigas. The 68020 product uses a 12MHz 020 running
> off the standard system clock (e.g., 8MHz in ST) and an FPU running as fast as
> you want, up to 50MHz.
>
> I didn't get a price on this item... However, they sell other models of
> accelerators - I've ordered a 25MHz 68030 for $600, to test in my STe.
> It would be great if I could run it at 16 or 32MHz, but I guess I'm just
> going to see if it runs at 8 first. Should be interesting.
> --
>   -- Howard Chu @ Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, CA
>       Disclaimer: How would I know, I just got here!
 
Keep us posted Howard, I at least, am very interested (he said,
thinking of putting his 1.62 STe in a tower case).  Oh yeah, don't you
have a tower?  What did you get to keep the FCC off your back?
thanks,
 
Bob Pegram
 
pegram@{sadye,kira,griffin,newton}.uvm.edu
        or
!uvm-gen!pegram
 
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Date: 2 Jul 91 01:17:42 GMT
From: mcsun!ukc!slxsys!ibmpcug!mantis!mwowm!mathew@uunet.uu.net (Million Headed
 Monster)
Subject: Amiga is better then [sic] what???
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
In <1991Jun28.110906.13772@agora.rain.com>, Barton writes:
> In an article Rod.Fulk@f24.n228.z1.FidoNet.Org (Rod Fulk) writes:
> > Of course the amiga does multitask but I have very little use for
> > multitasking..
>
>   That's what many people say, until they try Amiga multitasking.
 
at which point they say  "FUCK!!!  That's the fourth time the frigging
heap of junk has crashed in the last half hour!"
 
 
mathew
[ Ex Amiga user ]
--
<< baby  mother  hospital  scissors  creature  judgement  butcher  engineer >>
 
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Date: 2 Jul 91 01:17:42 GMT
From: mcsun!ukc!slxsys!ibmpcug!mantis!mwowm!mathew@uunet.uu.net (Million Headed
 Monster)
Subject: Amiga is better then what???
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
In <5266@orbit.cts.com>, Erik Funkenbusch writes:
> Rod.Fulk@f24.n228.z1.FidoNet.Org (Rod Fulk) writes:
> > A 1040 Ste compares VERY favorably to an amiga 500. The ONLY thing the amiga
> > 500 has over the atari is the fact that the atari can not do as many colors
> > on the screen at the same time...
>
> Really?  this is the ONLY feature?  Since when does the STe have 25 DMA
> channles?
 
Doing what?
 
>            since when does the STe have a graphics co-processor capable of
> running concurently with the CPU?
 
Since it was launched?
 
>                                 since when does the STe have Multi-tasking?
 
Since I decided to run a multi-tasking OS on it?
 
> > However there is a 24bit card available for $800 with a coprocessor of some
> > sort for really good graphics...
>
> just one?  i can buy 3 or 4 24 bit graphics devices for the 500 for under
> $500.00.
 
Wow!  That's $125 each.  Pretty good.  But what do you want three or four
graphics cards for?  Wouldn't that use up all the expansion slots?
 
> > An Ste with tos 1.6 and blitter performs pretty well...
>
> *IF* any software uses that blitter.  very little does.
 
All ST software which uses the OS graphics routines will be speeded up by
the blitter.  Many programs which *don't* use the OS have blitter support
as well, since ST blitters have been around since 1987.
 
> > Compared to an Amiga 500 the amiga only has a slight edge over the Atari..
> > (Note: for the price no other computer even comes close... )
>
> Really?  does the STe cost less than $500.00?
 
I don't know about the US, but in the UK the STe is cheaper than the A500.
 
>                                                I have a book that attempts to
> do the same thing on an Amiga and an ST, and they had to supply a whole bunch
> of routines that had to be written from scratch to match what they used in the
> Amiga's OS.
 
What "same thing" were they trying to do?  Implement an Amiga OS, perchance?
 
>                                        hmm are there any companies developing
> 16 bit audio boards?
 
What do you mean "developing"?  They're already on the market.
 
> There are 2 of them.  the Applied Engineering 1.56 meg High Density, and the
> Commodore 1.76 meg High Density.
 
Can you read industry-standard 1.44MB floppy disks on those?  Either Mac or
PC format?
 
> > Comparing an ST to an Amiga at purely CPU intensive things the Amiga can not
> > be compared very favorably.
>
> Oh really?  and i suppose that there are numerous 020,030,and 040 boards
> available for the STe?
 
I don't know about "numerous".  At least one.
 
Now go away and play in your little .advocacy newsgroup.
 
 
mathew
--
<< baby  mother  hospital  scissors  creature  judgement  butcher  engineer >>
 
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Date: 2 Jul 91 16:53:37 GMT
From: noao!ncar!gatech!utkcs2!hydra3b.cs.utk.edu!gathings@arizona.edu (Golando
 Gathings)
Subject: Atari 520 ST system forsale
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
        I have the following system for sale :
 
Atari 520 ST with, external drive, mono monitor, TOS and various software.
 
        asking $300 , O.B.O (price includes shipping ).
 
Thanks
Golando
 
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Date: 2 Jul 91 03:31:48 GMT
From:
 noao!ncar!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!swrinde!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!jato!hanauma.jpl
 .nasa.gov!hyc@arizona.edu (Howard Chu)
Subject: DOUBLE
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
Alright, what's the secret? This is really neat! Unfortunately it's not the
most readable on my SC1224. I tried my fractint code and uniterm on it, I was
pleasantly surprised to see that both work. However, I think you might want to
consider giving the full 640x400 screen to TOS programs, and use the 16 line
font by default. (Just like mono mode, eh?) Mebbe things like Gulam will work
with the expanded screen size. (Tho, come to think of it, I doubt it. So few
programs are written to be resolution independent, sigh.) At a guess, I'd say
this thing must tweak the video base address during horizontal blank intervals,
to skip one scan line. But how do you delay the vertical sync by one-half a
scan line to draw the alternate field?
 
Hm... Looking on a TV, I still see black lines between pixel rows. I guess
there isn't a sync delay in there, is there. Oh well. Looks kind of like one
of those freeware mono emulators for color screens.
 
Well, I still think it's neat. I'm gonna mail a check right away for this
one. Thanks.
 
Geeze. Can't wait to try it in monchrome. Uniterm with a 100 row screen.
I love it!
--
  -- Howard Chu @ Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, CA
        Disclaimer: How would I know, I just got here!
 
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Date: 2 Jul 91 21:14:12 GMT
From: IFI.UIO.NO!larserio@ucbvax.berkeley.edu (LarsErikOsterud)
Subject: DOUBLE Version 2.01 (takes 32K less RAM !!)
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
Double Screen-Heigh emulator for STE, MEGA STE (and TT ??)  VERSION 2
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""  """""""""
WHY A NEW VERSION ?  Well, the old version allocated 64000 bytes for
the new screen in low memory.  But the old screen still took up the
32000 bytes in high memory and that was a big waste (especially for
those with 520 and 1040 machines).  Instead of allocating 64000 new
bytes for the new screen version 2 expands the old screen by 32000
bytes (moving the top of memory down) and then saves 32000 bytes !!!
Version 2 takes up totally 32522 bytes including the resident code
and should be the smallest big-screen emulator available for the STE.
 
Why does this program only work om STE and not on standard ST ????
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
Both the display modes uses new hardware registers on the STE to
make the code small.  The interlace emulation could not be made
on the ST without moving the whole screen all the time and taking up
all the CPU-time.  On the STE it takes a few instructions each VBL.
 
Read this before you install DOUBLE2.PRG in your AUTO-folder
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
To install DOUBLE2.PRG just put it in your auto-folder as early as
possible (and be sure it's before Quick-ST etc).  If you have any
programs that allocates reset-resident memory by moving the screen
(like Harlekins RESETMEM) you MUST put DOUBLE2.PRG after those !!!
If you use Harlekin you MUST use RESETMEM.PRG first in AUTO-folder.
When the computer boots DOUBLE2.PRG will NOT install itself unless
you are holding down one of the SHIFT keys.  If installed in mono it
will emulate a 640 x 800 screen (double height) and if installed in
color (desktop.inf must be medium res) a 640 x 400 screen.
 
RIGHT-SHIFT while booting --> Up/Down scrolling emulator
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
When you move the mouse close to the top or bottom of the visible
screen area the screen will scroll down or up to display more of the
screen.  Think of your monitor screen as a window showing a part of
the whole area.  In this mode text-based program (TOS etc) will still
use only the upper half of the screen (the normal area) as this worked
best with the programs I tested.  Most GEM based programs will use the
whole screen (I made it for use with Calamus DTP and Timeworks DTP).
 
LEFT-SHIFT while booting --> Interlaced screen display
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
This will double the number of lines WITHOUT having to scroll the
screen by condensing the screen display.  This mode will flicker some
(users of color monitors or TV should use 60 Hz) but you might get a
better result by adjusting the contrast (yes, it looks like an Amiga).
In this mode both TOS and GEM-programs will use the whole screen area.
 
Please Support my ShareWare and Public Domain developement
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
Send 100 NKr (equals $15, DM25, 10 pounds, 30 guilders) by cheque or to
norwegian postgiro account 0537 6846174 (see your local post office for
a transfer card, "Service des cheques postaux, Avis de versement VP1").
Payable to:  Lars-Erik 0sterud, 0kriveien 39, N-1349 Rykkinn, Norway.
 
If you have any problem, ideas, bug-reports, wishes etc contact me !!
"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
Lars-Erik 0sterud       E-mail:         larserio@ifi.uio.no  (usenet)
Okriveien 39            Call me at:     +47 2 13 15 71  (voice phone)
N-1349 Rykkinn          or ABK-BBS:     +47 2 13 26 59  (300-9600 bps)
Norway             ____ ______  _____________________________________
                  /___    /             The norwegian ST   Contact us
                 ____/   /    Klubben,  user association   at ABK-BBS
 
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Date: 2 Jul 91 14:07:21 GMT
From: mcsun!ukc!slxsys!ibmpcug!monck@uunet.uu.net (Paul Monckton)
Subject: Electrohome ECM1311 and ST
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
Hi,
 
I have seen (in the UK) the Electrohome ECM11311 multisync monitor for sale
at a price of 149UKP.
 
Can anyone tell me anything about this monitor, and especially if it will
work in all three ST graphics modes.
 
I'm also thinking of getting an NEC 3D but this Electrohome monitor offer is
*much* cheaper, so I'd like to go for it if someone can tell me it will
work.
 
Thanks,
Paul
 
 
--
Automatic Disclaimer:
The views expressed above are those of the author alone and may not
represent the views of the IBM PC User Group.
--
"I'm minuspeptic, frasmotic,
 compunctuous even, to have caused you such pericombobulation" .. Black Adder
 
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Date: 2 Jul 91 08:10:28 GMT
From: mcsun!ukc!edcastle!hwcs!neil@uunet.uu.net (Neil Forsyth)
Subject: Elvis Inserts Newlines in my Files
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
In article <2252@uqcspe.cs.uq.oz.au> warwick@cs.uq.oz.au writes:
>In <1991Jul1.153900.9920@wam.umd.edu> dmb@wam.umd.edu (David M. Baggett)
>writes:
>>I've been using Elvis (a vi clone) for quite some time now, but just
>>recently discovered that the version I have (from atari.archive)
>>sometimes inserts newlines at seemingly random points in large files.
>>Since most of the work I do is on source code with < 32K source
>>modules, I never noticed the problem until now.
>
>I've noticed this too on large files.  I'd be VERY interested in a fix.
 
Solution: Just stop using a vi clone and use a real editor like Emacs.
It's got 4096 colours, a BLiTTER, multitasks ... hell I've had 20 requests
today! :-)
 
>warwick@cs.uq.oz.au
 
+----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
! DISCLAIMER:Unless otherwise stated, the above comments are entirely my own !
!                                                                            !
! Neil Forsyth                      JANET:  neil@uk.ac.hw.cs                 !
! Dept. of Computer Science         ARPA:   neil@cs.hw.ac.uk                 !
! Heriot-Watt University            UUCP:   ..!ukc!cs.hw.ac.uk!neil          !
! Edinburgh, Scotland, UK           "I laughed until I stopped"              !
+----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
 
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Date: 2 Jul 91 17:57:19 GMT
From:
 noao!ncar!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!cis.ohio-state.edu!pacific.mps.ohio-state.e
 du!linac!unixhub!stanford.edu!msi.umn.edu!noc.MR.NET!ns!ns!logajan@arizona.edu
 (John Logajan)
Subject: Elvis Inserts Newlines in my Files
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
dmb@wam.umd.edu (David M. Baggett) writes:
>I've been using Elvis (a vi clone) for quite some time now, but just
>recently discovered that the version I have (from atari.archive)
>sometimes inserts newlines at seemingly random points in large files.
 
I saw this problem too, and so I stopped using Elvis.  A new version
was just posted a few weeks ago, but I haven't tried it yet to see
if it had the same bug.
 
--
- John Logajan @ Network Systems; 7600 Boone Ave; Brooklyn Park, MN 55428
- logajan@ns.network.com, 612-424-4888, Fax 612-424-2853
 
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Date: 2 Jul 91 14:47:03 GMT
From:
 noao!ncar!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!dhbutler%magnus.a
 cs.ohio-state.edu@arizona.edu (David H Butler)
Subject: High Rez Cards?
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
This is my first time up on this system, so I hope this gets through fine
(without multiple copies etc., such as I often see). I am a proud general
partner in the company High Resolution Desktop Publishing, in Columbus Ohio.
I run the company (I'm the creative end, and my partner is the business end)
off a Mega4 with ADSPEED (which is great), the GCR (which is also great), and
Calamus/outline art. The Mad Axeman Press is another Atari based (using
Pagestream) Desktop publishing company here is Columbus! So, the Atari is
actually being used for professional applications! (kinda nice huh?)
My main question is: What type of color cards can I get for the ST. I know
very little about this area despite doing lots of research. Even RIO DATEL
does not know any of the Tech. specs for the cards that they will supposedly
have by the end of the summer. I am looking for a (voice) phone # that I
could call, and an address I could write to in order to get some info on
these devices. I don't mind ordering through CANADA if I have to, or even
further if I know the product will be compatible with U.S. scan rates. I have
an 800*600 multisynch (get the swithc from IB Computers, it is nicer by far
than the one from TALON), and I would like a Calamus compatible color card
for the full 16million colors (256 on screen is acceptable of course, but
more would be nice). I would prefer one that would work with my monitor, but
would consider switching if necessary. ANY INFO AT ALL WOULD BE APPRECIATED.
 
My second question is: Overscan, I have it installed, but the
incompatibilities are numerous. I have heard of a product called AUTOSWITCH
OVERSCAN, which I would like to get. Seeing as networking is not my boat, I
would like an address or tele# to call to get this product.
 
And third: Get a life you guys who argue continously about which computer is
best, hell, I like all of them, they are all great for different things, and
all the main systems (amiga, atari, mac, ibm) are pretty much competent all
around systems. If the human race can't even stop bickering over which
computer to use (yea, you are arguing over a hunk of silicone and a few
wires), how the hell can we agree on anything that actually matters at all!
 
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Date: 2 Jul 91 04:40:24 GMT
From: hpcc05!hpdmd48!ritchie@hplabs.hp.com (David Ritchie)
Subject: How to install Multi-sync monitor onto Atari STe?
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
>
>The Panasync C1391C (which is the model described by the spec sheet here on
>the desk) meets all the requirements EXCEPT one . . . you guessed it, the
>last one (Frequency Band width isn't listed on the spec sheet, but Video
>Band width is (30Mhz), so I'm assuming they're referring to the same thing).
>
>Is this really a big deal? Does anyone out there have one of these working
>with an ST(e)? Enquiring minds want to know . . .
>
 
  I have a C1391 on my PC run 1024 x 768 with no problems. I suspect
it will work just fine with my ST when I get the cable made.....
 
 
-- Dave Ritchie
ritchie@hpdmd48.boi.hp.com
 
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Date: 2 Jul 91 16:25:04 GMT
From:
 noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!sdd.hp.com!caen!spool.mu.edu!news.cs.indiana.edu!m
 aytag!watmath!watserv1!ljdickey@arizona.edu (Leroy J. Dickey)
Subject: J, version 3.2, for the Atari ST
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
                        J, version 3.2,
                        and other APL Software
                        at Waterloo
 
Version 3.2 of J, is now available on the file server
 
        watserv1.UWaterloo.CA         [ 129.97.129.140 ]
        watserv1.Waterloo.edu         [ 129.97.129.140 ]
 
at the University of Waterloo.   In the directory "languages/apl/j",
anonymous ftp users may find J for these systems:
 
        3b1
        mips
        next
        pc
        sgi     (irix)
        st      (atari_st)
        sun3
        sun4    (sparc)
        vax     (vax_bsd, ultrix)
 
Earlier releases of J are available for certain other systems:
 
        sun386i
        mac
 
An index showing all APL files is available as "languages/apl/index".
 
Other dialects of APL, such as Sharp APL, I-APL, and "ratapl" are available.
 
Three APL fonts may be obtained.
 
        (1) APL2745, a postscript line font
        (2) An X-Windows font
        (3) A TeX font.
 
Currently, this service is being provided on an experimental basis, and
there are no promises that it will continue on a long term basis, nor
is there any warantee of serviceability or completeness of the software
distributed from watserv1.
 
It is hoped that eventually there will be a mail server for the same
range of software to those who have e-mail access but no ftp access,
but a userid for this mail service has not been announced yet.  In
the meantime, BITNET users who do not have ftp may
find the service  "BITFTP at PUCC"  helpfull.  For example
this mail message (with no leading blanks)
 
        To: bitftp@pucc.bitnet
 
        FTP watserv1.waterloo.edu UUENCODE
        USER anonymous
        CD languages/apl
        BINARY
        GET index
        QUIT
 
was successful in acquiring the index.  Similar messages could result
in receiving the various pieces of software.
 
Once you have the index, you may see the name of some other file you
want.  For such a file, determine the directory path (``dp'') and
the file name (``fn'').  One example you will have already done:
the file "languages/apl/index" splits up as:
 
                dp              languages/apl
                fn              index
 
As another example, if you want the file "languages/apl/j/pc/j_pc_32.arc",
you would use the directory path and the file name:
 
                dp      languages/apl/j/pc
                fn      j_pc_32.arc
 
Prepare a little file to be a mail message to pucc:
(As before, no lines of the file have no leading blanks.)
 
                To: bitftp@pucc.bitnet
 
                FTP watserv1.waterloo.edu UUENCODE
                USER anonymous
                CD dp
                BINARY
                GET fn
                QUIT
 
Of course, in the above, you replace "dp" by the appropriate directory
path, and you replace "fn" by the file name.  Use your local e-mail to
send the file off.  If all goes as intended, when PUCC gets your mail
message, it does the "ftp" session for you, using the commands you have
supplied.  It wraps the file up in a "uuencode" package, and mails it
to you.  When you get the file, you may have to combine several files
together, remove superflous blank and mail header lines, and uudecode
the file.
 
--
Prof L.J. Dickey, Faculty of Mathematics, U of Waterloo, Canada  N2L 3G1
        Internet:       ljdickey@watmath.waterloo.edu
        UUCP:           ljdickey@watmath.UUCP   ..!uunet!watmath!ljdickey
        X.400:          ljdickey@watmath.UWaterloo.ca
 
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Date: 2 Jul 91 01:17:42 GMT
From: mcsun!ukc!slxsys!ibmpcug!mantis!mwowm!mathew@uunet.uu.net (Million Headed
 Monster)
Subject: MINIX on an Atari TT?
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
Has anyone tried running ST MINIX on a TT?  Does it work?  Anyone know of
any plans for a TT MINIX?
 
 
mathew
--
<< baby  mother  hospital  scissors  creature  judgement  butcher  engineer >>
 
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Date: 2 Jul 91 04:14:33 GMT
From:
 noao!ncar!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!wuarchive!psuvax1!psuvm!jjl101@arizona.edu
 (J.J. Lehett)
Subject: More uw questions
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
      Well, if not vt100, is it possible to get the keypad out of numeric mode
and into a function key mode in the adm31 emulation rather than putting
the control codes in the function keys at the top?
 
*************************************************************************
*     J.J.      *  Internet: JJL101@PSUVM.PSU.EDU  *     Penn State     *
*               *                                  *     Center for     *
*  John Lehett  *  Bitnet:   JJL101@PSUVM          * Academic Computing *
*************************************************************************
*    Atari ST's!, Puzzles, Cryptos, Games, Diplomacy, Synths + Midi     *
*************************************************************************
 
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Date: 2 Jul 91 15:55:11 GMT
From: bu.edu!bucsf.bu.edu!selick@uunet.uu.net (Steven Selick)
Subject: STE mono screen 600X800?
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
A previous post told ov a program to double the height of an SM124 with
an STE. Where is this program available?
later,
Steve
<selick@bucsf.bu.edu>
 
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Date: 2 Jul 91 18:09:08 GMT
From:
 noao!asuvax!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!wuarchive
 !psuvax1!psuvm!jjl101@arizona.edu (J.J. Lehett)
Subject: Unix Windows Explanations
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
    It has been brought to my attention that a more thourough explanation
of the previous post on Unix Windows should be given.  This week I decided
to give UW a shot, and when I booted it up and read what docs there were, it
seemed that this could be a VERY handy little program.  Allowing my to connect
to a couple of different Unix boxes, and even a 3090 mainframe all at one
over a 2400 baud modem without much reduction in speed. (Quick screen updates
and the like).
    I compile UW on the unix side without a hitch or any modifications (which
I must say shocked me :)  and then switched emulation mode to adm31 on the
unix side.  UW ran fine as long as I stayed on unix machines.  When I tried
to go to a ibm 3090 vm system from the unix box via tn3270 , I encountered
problems.  In the map3270 file it lists a adm31 entry with pf key control
codes, however the keybad does not send these codes out (at least I could
not get them to).  I then started putting these pf and other control code
keys into the definable function keys on the st side of uw, and then tn3270
worked fine.  However I would much prefer to have the keypad react in a pfkey
style, and which is why I was wondering about vt100 in uw.  But since vt100
 
seems to be impossible to get in UW, I am now looking for a way to get the
keypad into a non-numeric mode.  Is this possible?  Has anyone taken a look
at the source to this program?  Does it appear difficult to add a vt100
mode to the terminal?
 
            hope this clears up some of the questions about my questions :)
 
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Date: 2 Jul 91 17:38:42 GMT
From: noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!usc!samsung!know!daemon@arizona.edu
Subject: what Atari DOES have
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
I have an ST and a TT. Both of these can use something the Mac, the PC and
the Amiga cannot - the Atari SLM605 laser. For DTP, nothing can rival the
speed of output and the number of applications that make use of that speed
like Atari DTP packages.
 
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