Info-Atari16 Digest         Wed,  7 Aug 91       Volume 91 : Issue 425
 
Today's Topics:
                       Abacus Internals WANTED
                 Anonymous FTP of The Vault in Europe
                            Atari CD-ROM?
                         BBS-software wanted
                         Calamus Outline ETC.
                Clearing space on a hard disk (2 msgs)
                  CPX's and XCONTROL (was Re: Help!)
                              DIDOT ART?
                               Fractint
                 How to prove your MEGA STE is broken
       Is PHASAR (home financial program) available on IBM PC?
                                 lynx
                     Spectre GCR and II in a MAC
                TOS 1.4 ROMs for Atari Mega 1 (3 msgs)
                               Turbo-C
              Warning: Two versions of Zoo 2.1 (2 msgs)
 
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Date: 7 Aug 91 02:56:04 GMT
From:
 noao!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!rpi!news-server.csr
 i.toronto.edu!torsqnt!lsuc!jimomura@arizona.edu (Jim Omura)
Subject: Abacus Internals WANTED
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
In article <IcbVq_a00Vp_0X8pJF@andrew.cmu.edu> es2a+@andrew.cmu.edu (Eric
 Stuyvesant) writes:
>
>    If anyone out there has a copy of Abacus' Atari ST Internals book
>for sale, I'd be interested in buying it.  Any readable condition is
>acceptable.  Please e-mail me details like price and condition.
 
 
     There aren't many good books on programming left buyable for
the Atari ST series computers.  The only source for printed information
seems to be Atari (the "official" developers docs).  It sure would
be nice if some of the more capable programmers would get together
and put out another new set of books.
--
Jim Omura, 2A King George's Drive, Toronto, (416) 652-3880
lsuc!jimomura
Byte Information eXchange: jimomura
 
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Date: 7 Aug 91 14:44:45 GMT
From:
 noao!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!qt.cs.utexas.edu!yale.edu!cs.yale.edu!fischer-robert@
 arizona.edu (Robert Fischer)
Subject: Anonymous FTP of The Vault in Europe
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
are available via ftp in europe under anonymous account by the
University of Koeln/Germany. The numeric ftp-adress is
 
134.95.64.1
 
and the files are
 


 
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Thanks to:
 
        "Axel Wagner, Inst.f.Kernphysik, Uni Mainz"
        <WAGNER@vkpmza.kph.uni-mainz.de>
 
for putting it there.
 
--- Bob
--
| Robert Fischer                                |
|    Arpanet:    <fischer-robert@cs.yale.edu>   |
 
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Date: 7 Aug 91 08:03:08 GMT
From: otter.hpl.hp.com!hpltoad!ghiggins!gjh@hplabs.hp.com (Graham Higgins)
Subject: Atari CD-ROM?
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
_Both_ UK ST mags (STUser & STFormat) are reporting AtariUK's intentions to
make available a CD-I peripheral for the ST/TT (one mag reports the spec). They
warn the drooling reader that purchase availability is likely to be
early/mid-92 with a guestimated price tag of 400 pounds sterling.
 
Let's hope that Atari's marketing management make a better job of CD-I than
they did with CD-ROM.
 
Graham
======
 
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Hewlett-Packard Labs            |  gjh%ghiggins@hplb.hpl.hp.com
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Tel: +44 272 799910 x24014         Fax: +44 272 790554
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Date: 7 Aug 91 12:01:02 GMT
From: mcsun!news.funet.fi!funic!nic.funet.fi!lahtinen@uunet.uu.net (Kimmo
 Lahtinen)
Subject: BBS-software wanted
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
ST Club Finland has a multi-line BBS running on an Mega ST 4 and
the software is Michtron BBS v3.0. We are quite satisfied with the
software, but it can not be run on a TT. As there is more users
on-line the Mega ST is running out of power.
 
So does anyone know a BBS-software running on TT and/or other
multi-line BBS-software?
 
--
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
 
Kimmo Lahtinen                      E-Mail : lahtinen@gideon.fmi.fi or
Finnish Meteorological Institute             kimmo@field.fi
                                    Phone  : +358 0 758 1322
Possessed by a Spirit               G3 Fax : +358 0 758 1396
 
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Date: 7 Aug 91 15:06:03 GMT
From:
 noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-stat
 e.edu!dhbutler@arizona.edu (David H Butler)
Subject: Calamus Outline ETC.
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
I have heard of a program (maybe called DIDOT ART?) that may convert from
PostScript or other formats into Calamus Outline .OL or .CVG format. Could
someone please send me an address and/or telephone number for where I could get
this program?
 
Thank You!!
 
 
       || || || - David Butler             (dhbutler@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu)
       || || ||
       || || ||     H  H    RRRR                     [ High Resolution DTP    ]
      ||  ||  ||    HHHH    R   R                    [ 1996 Summit St. Apt. B ]
     ||   ||   ||   H  High RRRR                     [ Columbus, Ohio 43201   ]
   |||    ||    |||         R   Resolution           [ voice: (614)-297-7967  ]
 ||||     ||     ||||       R    R
                                 - Desktop Publishing
 
                                       -(Just a little plug for my company)-
--
 
                                                         || || ||
                                                         || || ||
                                                         || || ||
 
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Date: 7 Aug 91 03:28:45 GMT
From:
 noao!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!mips!pacbell.com!iggy.GW.Vitalink.COM!psinntp
 !rodan.acs.syr.edu!ggreenbe@arizona.edu (Gerald Greenberg)
Subject: Clearing space on a hard disk
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
Is there some way to erase the data on a hard disk that is not
part of a program or document?  In other words, if my hard
disk has 678K free, is there some way to make that 678K worth
of space totally free of any info whatsoever?
Thanks.
Gerry
ggreenbe@rodan.acs.syr.edu
 
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Date: 7 Aug 91 14:12:28 GMT
From:
 noao!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!qt.cs.utexas.edu!yale.edu!cs.yale.edu!cs.yale.edu!fis
 cher-michael@arizona.edu (Michael Fischer)
Subject: Clearing space on a hard disk
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
In article <1991Aug7.032845.6889@rodan.acs.syr.edu>
ggreenbe@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Gerald Greenberg) writes:
>Is there some way to erase the data on a hard disk that is not
>part of a program or document?  In other words, if my hard
>disk has 678K free, is there some way to make that 678K worth
>of space totally free of any info whatsoever?
 
Why do you want to do this?  For security purposes?
 
The easiest way is to write a program that opens a file and keeps
writing some filler character to it (say, 0xe5) until the partition
fills up.  This will cause every sector on the disk to be used, except
for those that are marked in the FAT as "bad" or "in-use" (and except
also for a few at the end of the partition that, because of a bug in
Gemdos, are never used).  Then close the file and delete it.  To make
this reasonably efficient, you should set up a large buffer in memory,
fill it with the filler character, and then write out the whole buffer
at once.
 
I can think of one possible problem with this approach.  Sometimes a
disk becomes corrupted and contains blocks that are marked "in-use" in
the FAT but are not a part of any current files.  (This will happen,
for example, if a directory entry gets clobbered.) The above procedure
would not erase those blocks.  You would first need to use a disk
analyzer to locate and free them.
 
If you are dealing with really sensitive data, just writing over it
might not be enough.  I am told that sometimes the old data can be
recovered off of magnetic media by use of special equipment, since
writing the new data does not completely obliterate the old.  (This is
a bit like erasing something written in pencil and then writing
something new on top.  A faint shadow of the original writing
remains.)
 
Maybe the Double Click people would be interested in producing such a
program in the "program-of-the-week" series.
 
==================================================
| Michael Fischer <fischer-michael@cs.yale.edu>  |
==================================================
 
--
==================================================
| Michael Fischer <fischer-michael@cs.yale.edu>  |
==================================================
 
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Date: 7 Aug 91 10:07:57 GMT
From: mcsun!corton!laas!ralph@uunet.uu.net (Ralph P. Sobek)
Subject: CPX's and XCONTROL (was Re: Help!)
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
You are absolutely right Steve, but the CPX documentation is *only*
available to *certain* developers.  Not us!
 
--
Ralph P. Sobek                    Disclaimer: The above ruminations are my own.
ralph@laas.fr                              Addresses are ordered by importance.
ralph@laas.uucp, or ...!uunet!laas!ralph
If all else fails, try:                               sobek@eclair.Berkeley.EDU
Phone: (+33-)61-33-62-66  FAX-1: (+33-)61-33-64-55  FAX-2: (+33-)61-55-35-77
===============================================================================
Got a Mega 4 ST.  Wishing it was a Mega STe!  :-| Do I *really* want a TT? ;
 
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Date: 7 Aug 91 15:10:37 GMT
From:
 noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!mips!spool.mu.edu!uwm.edu!linac!pacific.mp
 s.ohio-state.edu!cis.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!dhbutler@arizona.
 edu (David H Butler)
Subject: DIDOT ART?
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
Somehow I managed to get 2 Signature files in my last message which may screw
things up, so here is my question again:  I am looking for a program which is
called (I think) Didot Art. If anyone can give me infor for it I would really
appreciate it.
 
Thank You!
 
(sorry if this becomes a double-post)
 
       || || || - David Butler             (dhbutler@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu)
       || || ||
       || || ||     H  H    RRRR                     [ High Resolution DTP    ]
      ||  ||  ||    HHHH    R   R                    [ 1996 Summit St. Apt. B ]
     ||   ||   ||   H  High RRRR                     [ Columbus, Ohio 43201   ]
   |||    ||    |||         R   Resolution           [ voice: (614)-297-7967  ]
 ||||     ||     ||||       R    R
                                 - Desktop Publishing
 
                                       -(Just a little plug for my company)-
 
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Date: 7 Aug 91 05:44:29 GMT
From:
 noao!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!qt.cs.utexas.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!usc!elroy.
 jpl.nasa.gov!hanauma.jpl.nasa.gov!hyc@arizona.edu (Howard Chu)
Subject: Fractint
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
[Also being emailed...]
 
In article <1991Aug6.135337.17024@linus.mitre.org> cazier@mbunix.mitre.org
 (Cazier) writes:
>A *long* while back I saw someone talking about having converted FRACTINT to
>the Atari ST. From the messages, it appeared nearly done. But, I never saw any
>posting about a finished product. I was wondering what happened to it. If it
>did get posted then is there an internet ftp site for it? Please e-mail the
>response since I don't access the "atari" group at all.
 
The person who did the port disappeared off the face of the earth, and didn't
make the source code available before doing so.
 
Ok, not quite that bad. I did the port, didn't finish, and moved from Michigan
to California, losing my main development system in the process. I was using a
borrowed NeXT machine with gcc set up as a cross-compiler to build it. I have
yet to restore my files off NeXT optical disk onto a more usable medium here
in my new environment... I never kept the source on my ST, so it is still
inaccessible at the moment.
--
  -- Howard Chu @ Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, CA
        Disclaimer: How would I know, I just got here!
 
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Date: Wed, 7 Aug 91 14:18 N
From: <DAGLEISH%FRILL.BITNET@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
Subject: How to prove your MEGA STE is broken
To: INFO-ATARI16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
Distribution-File:
        INFO-ATARI16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
 
 
 
    Here is a little programme to reproduce the shifter problem that exists
in the MEGA STEs. Since it uses only legal system calls Atari cannot blame
bad software.
 
    Just run the programme on a MEGA STE and watch what happens to the
display. If the shifter is one of the bad ones then most of the time the
displayed area on the screen will shift a varying amount to the left of
normal (equivalent to 1, 2 or 3 character positions). Run the programme
repeatedly and if the screen jumps about as described then your machine is
broken, if not then it's O.K.
 
    I have included a UUD'ed version for those who don't have an assembler.
 
    Have fun,
 
 
            Paul.
 
 
sshiftmod   equ $44C
 
    clr.l       -(a7)
    move.w      #$20,-(a7)      ;get into Super mode
    trap        #1              ;GEMDOS
    addq.l      #6,a7
    moveq       #0,d0           ;sweep d0
    move.b      sshiftmod,d0    ;get screen resolution
    move.w      d0,-(sp)        ;push resolution
    pea         -1.w            ;keep same physical base
    pea         -1.w            ;keep same logical base
    move.w      #5,-(sp)        ;setscreen
    trap        #14             ;XBIOS
    lea.l       12(sp),sp
    clr.w       -(sp)           ;terminate process
    trap        #1              ;bye bye
 
 
table
 !"#$%&'()*+,-./0123456789:;<=>?
@ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ[\]~_
begin 644 SHIFTER.PRG
M8!H    H         @                $  $*G/SP ($Y!7(]P ! X!$P_z
; $AX__](>/__/SP !4Y.3~\ #$)G3D$     y
 x
end
 
 
-----------------      Paul A. Dagleish, I.L.L.    --------------------------
 
snail:  Institut Laue-Langevin, 156x, F-38042 GRENOBLE, France
email:  DAGLEISH@FRILL.BITNET
phone:  (33).76.20.70.65 -- telex:  320 621F -- fax:  (33).76.48.39.06
 
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Date: 7 Aug 91 15:13:01 GMT
From: math.fu-berlin.de!tmpmbx!lime.in-berlin.de!techno@uunet.uu.net (Techno)
Subject: Is PHASAR (home financial program) available on IBM PC?
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
stevela@beach.csulb.edu (Steve La) writes:
 
>I have been using PHASAR 4.0 (home financial program) on my 1040ST and MegaST4
>computers in the last few years.  My sister is looking for this program for her
>286 PC clone.  Is Phasar available for PC compatible computer?  If not, is
>there any similar program on the PC that would do the same job?  Thanks in
>advance for any suggestion.
 
Well the obvious answer is to buy her an ST. Before you start to flame,
remember that you posted this to c.s.a.s as well. By the way, she might
even save money that way, PC software prices beeing what they are.
 
                  Hope this helps,
 
                             Techno
 
--
| techno@zelator.in-berlin.de ||| Please do not e-mail from outside Germany ! |
| techno@lime.in-berlin.de   / | \ Hardcore ST user !  ====================== |
| Nothing that's real is ever for free, you just have to pay for it sometime. |
|                                        (Al Stewart)                         |
 
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Date: 7 Aug 91 01:51:47 GMT
From:
 noao!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!usc!chaph.usc.edu!aludra.usc.edu!jjung@arizona.edu
 (Robert Jung)
Subject: lynx
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
In article <1991Aug6.111630.842@crash.cts.com> chuckie@pro-odyssey.cts.com
 (Chuck Schul) writes:
>where are all the new softs people!!!
 
  Go read rec.games.video to stay informed on Lynx news. In the meantime, you
can run out and buy NINJA GAIDEN, BLOCKOUT, WARBIRDS, and FIDELITY ULTIMATE
CHESS CHALLENGE if you want to play games.
 
                                                --R.J.
                                                B-)
 
P.S. Either that, or drop me a line.
 
//////////////////////////////////////|\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
Send whatevers to jjung@nunki.usc.edu | If it has pixels, I'm for it.
--------------------------------------+------------------------------Lynx up!
       "If it moves, shoot it. If it doesn't move, shoot it anyway."
 
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Date: 06 AUG 91 22:13:11 CDT
From: Z4648252 <Z4648252%SFAUSTIN@RICEVM1.RICE.EDU>
Subject: Spectre GCR and II in a MAC
To: <INFO-ATARI16@naucse.cse.nau.edu>
 
Chuck Schul writes:
 >
 >...at the same time can you run the apple 2 emulator on the mac on
 >specture (2 in a amac?)
 >
    First off, the ST Mac Plus emulator is spelled SPECTRE, not
Specture.  Secondly the "other computer" is called "Apple" not "apple".
And the program is called "II in a Mac" not "2 in a amac".
    Sheesh!
    II in a Mac works perfectly with the Spectre GCR, or did on the last
release that I used it on (2.65c).  It is woefully slow, like the IBM
emulator, PC DITTO (software version).  However, it does work and works
quite good.
    How amazing, an emulator running an emulator.  grin
 
Larry Rymal <Z4648252@SFAUSTIN.BITNET> |>Atari ST Users of East Texas<|
       Stephen F. Austin State University, Nacogdoches, Texas
 
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Date: Tue, 6 Aug 1991 18:00 N
From: "Frits Dumortier/R.U.G." <FD%AUTOCTRL.RUG.AC.BE@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
Subject: TOS 1.4 ROMs for Atari Mega 1
To: info-atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
Dear Atarians,
 
I want to upgrade My Atari Mega 1 with the new TOS 1.4 ROMs.
 
Can somebody please tell me how many ROMs the new TOS 1.4 comes on?
At the moment I have a 2 ROM version TOS 1.2, and I've heard the new
TOS 1.4 is only available in a 6 ROM package.
 
If the new TOS only comes on 6 ROMs, what hardware changes must be
made on my motherboard?
 
advTHANKSance,
 
Frits Dumortier
FD@BGERUG51
 
Rijksuniversiteit Gent
Laboratorium Regeltechniek
Belgium
 
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Date: Tue, 6 Aug 1991 18:00 N
From: "Frits Dumortier/R.U.G." <FD%AUTOCTRL.RUG.AC.BE@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
Subject: TOS 1.4 ROMs for Atari Mega 1
To: info-atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
Dear Atarians,
 
I want to upgrade My Atari Mega 1 with the new TOS 1.4 ROMs.
 
Can somebody please tell me how many ROMs the new TOS 1.4 comes on?
At the moment I have a 2 ROM version TOS 1.2, and I've heard the new
TOS 1.4 is only available in a 6 ROM package.
 
If the new TOS only comes on 6 ROMs, what hardware changes must be
made on my motherboard?
 
advTHANKSance,
 
Frits Dumortier
FD@BGERUG51
 
Rijksuniversiteit Gent
Laboratorium Regeltechniek
Belgium
 
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Date: Tue, 6 Aug 1991 18:00 N
From: "Frits Dumortier/R.U.G." <FD%AUTOCTRL.RUG.AC.BE@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
Subject: TOS 1.4 ROMs for Atari Mega 1
To: info-atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
Dear Atarians,
 
I want to upgrade My Atari Mega 1 with the new TOS 1.4 ROMs.
 
Can somebody please tell me how many ROMs the new TOS 1.4 comes on?
At the moment I have a 2 ROM version TOS 1.2, and I've heard the new
TOS 1.4 is only available in a 6 ROM package.
 
If the new TOS only comes on 6 ROMs, what hardware changes must be
made on my motherboard?
 
advTHANKSance,
 
Frits Dumortier
FD@BGERUG51
 
Rijksuniversiteit Gent
Laboratorium Regeltechniek
Belgium
 
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Date: 7 Aug 91 17:01:22 GMT
From: sun-barr!newstop!eastapps!juggler!gaudreau@decwrl.dec.com (Joe Gaudreau
 (Dances with PostScript))
Subject: Turbo-C
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
Martin_Gaeckler@m.maus.de (Martin Gaeckler) writes:
=gaudreau @ east.sun.com am Mo, 29.07.91 17:06 in ATARI.ENG
=>Could you provide more information on what the update involves/costs/etc.
=
=The Most important improvements of Turbo C to Pure C:
=- Debugger will run in all resolutions tha provide at least a 80 * 25 char-
=  acter screen.
=- It will able to debug DAs.
=- There will be a new assembler with 68040-, NewLibraryFormat- and Debugger-
=  Support.
=- The IDE provides a better HELP-function. You will find a symbol definition
=  very fast.
=
=>Is there English documentation [yet] !?!?!?!?
=
=There will be no english documentation. Borland did not allow to translate
=the docs.
 
Gee, don't they like the Atari world?  Guess not.
 
How about an English help guide?  Installation, usage, etc.  Doesn't have
to be based on the original docs at all.  In fact, I'm sure a few
speakers of English/German could get together to market this...
 
One can always hope.
 
Thanx for the info.
 
Joe
-=-
 
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Date: 7 Aug 91 12:49:50 GMT
From: mcsun!corton!laas!ralph@uunet.uu.net (Ralph P. Sobek)
Subject: Warning: Two versions of Zoo 2.1
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
There seem to be two versions of zoo 2.1 available for the Atari ST.
Before zoo21bin.zoo came available from the binaries newsgroup, I
recovered from atari.archive the following:
 
-rw-rw-r--  1 1401       327325 Jul 14 23:14 zooV21.zoo
 
This latter version seems to have trouble with the recent postings:
lynxlib2.zoo and sokobin2.zoo.
 
Any comments?
--
Ralph P. Sobek                    Disclaimer: The above ruminations are my own.
ralph@laas.fr                              Addresses are ordered by importance.
ralph@laas.uucp, or ...!uunet!laas!ralph
If all else fails, try:                               sobek@eclair.Berkeley.EDU
Phone: (+33-)61-33-62-66  FAX-1: (+33-)61-33-64-55  FAX-2: (+33-)61-55-35-77
===============================================================================
Got a Mega 4 ST.  Wishing it was a Mega STe!  :-| Do I *really* want a TT? ;
 
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Date: 7 Aug 91 13:45:30 GMT
From: mcsun!hp4nl!alchemy!ruunfs!ruunfs.fys.ruu.nl!muts@uunet.uu.net (Peter
 Mutsaers)
Subject: Warning: Two versions of Zoo 2.1
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
   > There seem to be two versions of zoo 2.1 available for the Atari ST.
   > Before zoo21bin.zoo came available from the binaries newsgroup, I
   > recovered from atari.archive the following:
 
   > -rw-rw-r--  1 1401       327325 Jul 14 23:14 zooV21.zoo
 
   > This latter version seems to have trouble with the recent postings:
   > lynxlib2.zoo and sokobin2.zoo.
 
Could you post which and where is the version of zoo2.1 which works
well? I'm not sure anymore which one I had.
--
Peter Mutsaers                          email:    muts@fys.ruu.nl
Rijksuniversiteit Utrecht                         muts@fysap.fys.ruu.nl
Princetonplein 5                          tel:    (+31)-(0)30-533880
3584 CG Utrecht, Nederland
 
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