Info-Atari16 Digest         Mon, 22 Apr 91       Volume 91 : Issue 224
 
Today's Topics:
                                .reb?
                       Atari & MAC, SPECTRE...
                         Atari Color Monitors
                        Atari Portfolio users!
                            atari user mag
                           British systems
                   Can GCC treat printer like file?
                          EZTest Test Maker
                     Files sent to atari.archive
                     Hard disk bootblock viruses
             Help needed with TOS 1.4 and TDI's Modula-2
                 Megafile 60 noisy startup/ shutdown
           Okami Shell - NOT with VI, NO ARGV/xARG support!
                    STE Demo / Demo Party (2 msgs)
                    The Atari SIG on the Freenet!
                             VKiller 3.81
 
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Date: 21 Apr 91 19:58:20 GMT
From: noao!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!mips!atha!aunro!ersys!arktik@arizona.edu
 (Ryan Daum)
Subject: .reb?
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
The problem with doing it in ProRebel form is that unkowingly you have
included the entire ProCopy program!  The way ProRebel does it's magic is
it runs ProCopy and then when it reaches a certain point, it dumps all
the contents of memorY (including the program) to disk.
 
 
 
  ___________________________________________
 -=-  ersys!arktik@nro.cs.athabascau.ca    -=-
 |||---------------------------------------|||
 |||  Ryan Daum -- Professional Human      |||
 |||---------------------------------------|||
 -=-                                       -=-
 
 
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Date: 20 Apr 91 02:29:52 GMT
From:
 noao!ncar!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!think.com!mintaka!bloom-beacon!eru!hagbard!
 sunic!fuug!funic!santra!saha.hut.fi!s37837k@arizona.edu (Jari Lehto)
Subject: Atari & MAC, SPECTRE...
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
In article <1991Apr18.211304.4775@cs.cmu.edu> francois@LOIRE.EDRC.CMU.EDU
 (Francois Bonnafy) writes:
>I offen heard from these emulators for the Atari, allowing it to run Mac
>software . Advertising says that it is wunderful, efficient, fast, sure...
>
>But say, who believe advertising?
>
>So my questions:
>
>- Do ALL the software for Mackies function on the emulator?
 
Not all, but a large majority. Those having copyprotection rarely
work, because they try to directly look the floppy-controller.
Generally, programs that do direct hardware access, won't work
I have found very few of them.
 
>- how fast is it in comparison to a Mac LC or IIsi?
 
With basic ST/Mega, it is 20% faster than Mac Plus.
But with accelerator installed, you can even beat Mac IIfx...
Dunno about these models you asked.
 
>- How offen do the programs cras down?
 
Some can do it regularly... But normally a crash occurs quite seldom.
It depends what are you running. I have used Spectre without crash many
days without even resetting the machine. And Spectre can recover from quite
severe crashes too.
 
>_ What kind of hardware can you use with it (Portrait Screens CD, ...)
 
Almost any hardware, ST or Mac oriented. No Mac-screens can be used,
but there are quite many graphics-cards available for ST. And TT has enough
resolution without any cards.
You can even use AppleTalk and Mac SCSI with a special interface.
TT has it's own LAN, that works like AppleTalk with Spectre.
 
>I will compile the answer and make a posting of it
>
>Thank you in advance
>
>Francois
 
No problem.
 
                                Jartsu
*                                                                       *
*               Nothing yet, but I'll keep on scanning...               *
*               ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~                  *
 
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Date: 21 Apr 91 16:02:19 GMT
From: noao!ncar!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!unix.cis.pitt.edu!resst11@arizona.edu
 (Ryk E Spoor)
Subject: Atari Color Monitors
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
        I have a problem that I hope someone can help with. It seems that
certain models of the color monitor, including the one I have, display
colors much more darkly than they should. As an example, there are parts
of Dungeon Master where I can barely see things even when I've got
all the torches I can light on (and these same sections come out
bright and clear on someone else's monitor.)
        My questions (please Email answers, since I often don't have
time to read through news): 1) can I adjust this thing so it will
be brighter? and 2), if the answer is "no", does someone have a
monitor I could get cheap that WOULD be brighter? I'd be willing
to trade and then add bucks on top. The monitor FUNCTIONS fine, it
just is darker than it ought to be; if you are mostly into word
processing it wouldn't give you any problems at all.
        Thanx,
 
                                Sea Wasp
 
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Date: 21 Apr 91 18:03:26 GMT
From:
 noao!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!usc!jarthur!petunia!csuchico.edu!ekrimen@arizona.edu
 (Ed Krimen)
Subject: Atari Portfolio users!
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
In article <9104210421.AA14688@cwns5.INS.CWRU.Edu> aa399@cleveland.Freenet.Edu
 writes:
>
>
>I know this is an Atari ST Board but I don't think there is a board
>specifically for the Portfolio on Usenet.
>
 
Check out comp.sys.handhelds.
 
 
--
         Ed Krimen  ...............................................
   |||   Video Production Major, California State University, Chico
   |||   INTERNET: ekrimen@ecst.csuchico.edu  FREENET: al661
  / | \  SysOp, Fuji BBS: 916-894-1261        FIDONET: 1:119/4.0
 
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Date: 21 Apr 91 20:14:52 GMT
From:
 noao!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!sdd.hp.com!mips!daver!dlb!netcom!seitz@arizona.edu
 (Matthew Seitz)
Subject: atari user mag
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
I also liked the new Atari User magazine.  However, I'm not sure I'd recommend
a subscription yet.  This is intended as a free distribution magazine, so it
should be available at no cost at your local Atari dealer.  It is also being
distributed through newsstands at $1.00 per issue, cheaper than the
subscription price.
 
Also, while this first issue is well-written, informative, and timely, it is
their first issue.  I'd like to see if they can keep up the quality before
sending off for a subscription.  Especially since their is no price savings
for subscribing.  I imagine it will continue to be good, since it is put out
by the same folks who published the excellent ST JOURNAL.
 
In short, if spending $15 bucks is no big deal to you, and you'd like to have
the magazine mailed to you, go for it.  Otherwise, try picking it up over the
counter.  You may find that you don't care for it, or may be able to pick it
up for free.
 
--
                                        Matthew Seitz
 
                                        Note new address:
                                        seitz@netcom.com
 
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Date: 21 Apr 91 16:29:32 GMT
From:
 noao!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!rpi!uupsi!sunic!isg
 ate!krafla!adamd@arizona.edu (Adam David)
Subject: British systems
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
In <12556@uhccux.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu> kiki@uhunix1.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu writes:
>Thanks for the corrections!  Something does not seem clear though; I can under-
>stand Sinclair naming their machines ZX 81 and Spectrum, but... Sam Coupe(?!)
 
This sounds like the 256k spectrum 'compatible' that Miles Gordon Technology
might even still be making.
 
>+The sinclair QL (the name is NOT Quantum QL) where fare ahead from
>+all other compters in it's days. Ok it was not as great succes! but there
>+is still about 100.000 users around the world.
 
8 years later!!! That's certainly not failure, even if only meagre success.
The OS design is beautiful and still being advanced today.
 
>640x400/480 graphics (4 colors)
 
Not so. The QL has 512*256 (4 colour) or 256*256 (8 colour + flashing).
68000 and 68020 (with optional FPU) 'compatibles' exist, and prototypes must
have been built with higher screen resolutions. The Thor XVI (was manufactured
in Denmark) has a 2-layer design with a seperate I/O processor to reduce CPU
load while communicating beyond the CPU bus. This gives a marked improvement
in throughput on such a multiprocessing environment.
 
>Some detractions of the QL are the marginal design (must be kept cool), non-
>standard keyboard, archaic tape drive and limited memory expansion.  Support
>is hard to find in the U.S., and declining, so you get what you pay for it.
 
For D.I.Y. types:
There is a redesigned circuit board and kit/plans for a QL compatible,
available from QUANTA, a worldwide QL user group based in U.K. with membership
around 5,000 to 10,000 people.
The main improvements are a built-in floppy disk interface and a keyboard
interface to connect up standard PC-type keyboards, maybe also mouse and
parallel ports. As far as I know, the kit is available to members only.
The QUANTA newsletter is full of good quality material, also lots of special
offers to members. The QL is far from dead.
 
[exit QL mode before I get flamed]
 
>Maybe not TOS, but TAOS?
 
Good move! Let's see it, Atari.
 
--
Adam David. (adamd@rhi.hi.is)
 
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Date: 22 Apr 91 08:37:04 GMT
From:
 noao!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!sdd.hp.com!caen!uwm.edu!spool.mu.edu!cs.umn.edu!uc!sh
 amash!timbuk!marc@arizona.edu (Marc Bouron)
Subject: Can GCC treat printer like file?
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
In article <1991Apr19.200801.26887@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>, timothyg@ncsa.uiuc.edu
 (Timothy Gallivan) writes:
|>
|> Hi, here is a question for a real C guru.
|>
|> Does anyone know if gcc can treat the printer like a file? That is,
|> obtain a file descriptor for the printer (fd=fopen(stdprn,..), or
|> something like that), and then write to it using fwrite(...,fd) or
|> putc(fd). I am aware of the TOS print routines, but I am trying to
|> port some MSDOS code which treats the printer like a file. The port
|> will be easier if I cam mimic this in gcc.
|>
There is a standard filename called `PRN:' or `LST:' that you should be able to
use just like any other filename.  TOS recognises this filename and directs the
output to the printer.  For example, you would write fopen("LST:","w").  You'll
need to check yourself which one works... one is standard TOS - the other was a
Lattice special.
 
[M][a][r][c]
 
 
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Date: 21 Apr 91 20:48:28 GMT
From:
 noao!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!wuarchive!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.
 edu!emory!gatech!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!ysub!psuvm!krr102@arizona.edu
Subject: EZTest Test Maker
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
   Attention all!!! Especially teachers, and faculty.  Fed up with writing test
s by hand??  Or just find it too difficult to organize a test with a common wor
d processor??  Well your prayers have been answered.  EZTest is a Test Maker th
at can make tests in any format (T/F, Mult Choice, and more).  Many many extra
features make this program a must for anyone who needs to write tests.  EZTest
is VERY user friendly and is real easy to use.  For further information contact
 the following address, and tell 'em Mark sent ya.
 
 
                          EZTest HQ
                          c/o Walter Lukow
                          1006 E Fariview St.
                          Allentown, PA 18103
 
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Date: 21 Apr 91 21:51:18 GMT
From:
 noao!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!usc!jarthur!petunia!csuchico.edu!ekrimen@arizona.edu
 (Ed Krimen)
Subject: Files sent to atari.archive
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
These files were sent to atari.archive.
 
141987 Apr 21 14:10 atari.lzh    - An old ST demo, from Atari Corp. I think.
 67769 Apr 21 14:11 bbs0404.lzh  - MiniBBS, dated 04-04-91
 45155 Apr 21 14:12 cocktail.lzh - Cocktail recipes
 15671 Apr 21 14:12 fplanet.lzh  - Fractal planet generator.
183962 Apr 21 14:09 gods.lzh     - Playable demo of a game with good graphics.
  4914 Apr 21 14:12 leonard.lzh  - By John Eidsvoog at Codehead, it replaces
                                   bombs with profile of Leonard Tramiel.  Read
                                   docs for full info.
170208 Apr 21 14:09 moonshin.prg - Playable demo of a racing game.
121444 Apr 21 14:11 ms2demo.lzh  - Mastersound II Demo.  Includes STE support.
 95415 Apr 21 14:11 st_tour.lzh  - Another nostaglic ST demo.  This one should
                                   be bundled with every ST.  Don't put ST Basic
                                   on the language disk; put this.
 24113 Apr 21 14:12 trackst.lzh  - Noisetracker module player for the ST.
                                   Includes hard drive support.
 24336 Apr 21 14:12 trackste.lzh - Same as trackst.lzh, but with STE support.
112014 Apr 21 14:11 turrican.tos - Playable demo of Turrican II.
 
Thanks to Lars-Erik Osterud for MiniBBS and TrackST/STe.
--
         Ed Krimen  ...............................................
   |||   Video Production Major, California State University, Chico
   |||   INTERNET: ekrimen@ecst.csuchico.edu  FREENET: al661
  / | \  SysOp, Fuji BBS: 916-894-1261        FIDONET: 1:119/4.0
 
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Date: Sun, 21 Apr 91 20:01:50 WET DST
From: Mr I C Mccall <csd015@central1.lancaster.ac.uk>
Subject: Hard disk bootblock viruses
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
Someone asked whether or not it was impossible for an ST to get a
bootblock style virues on a hard drive - well, I believe it is. I
believe this due to the fact that just about every hard drive has it's
own driver in order to make the hard disk autoboot, and each bootsector
is different. To my mind, then, the only way you could get a bootblock
virus is if it attacted a specific make of hard drive, eg. a Supra
virus, and ICD virus etc..
 
I don't know whether all that is actually RIGHT, of course, but it
sounds good to me!
 
 
Ian McCall (csd015@uk.ac.lancs.cent1)
 
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Date: 21 Apr 91 19:29:06 GMT
From:
 noao!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!wuarchive!uwm.edu!o
 gicse!unicorn!henson!n8742883@arizona.edu (Perry Pederson)
Subject: Help needed with TOS 1.4 and TDI's Modula-2
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
        I have found an apparent 'bug' with TDI's Modula-2 and TOS
1.4, and was wondering if anyone out there in net-land could give some
advice.
 
        I upgraded to TOS 1.4 last summer, and never did much Modula-2
programming as I did not have a need to.  However, I am now taking an
intensive programming class with Modula, and it would be very helpful
if I could access the language at home.
 
        I found out early that the ramdisk that comes with TDI's M-2
doesn't work very well with TOS 1.4-- after installing it, it crashes
the computer (4 bombs) any time I switch disks in the A: drive and hit
the escape key.  I went around the problem by using a ramdisk in a
desk accessory that I downloaded from atari.archive.  So far so good.
 
        After doing some programming and compiling, I had some errors
in my file, which was saved by the compiler in a file with the
extension ".ERM".  The .ERM file contains a list of columns, rows, and
error numbers where the errors have occurred.  TDI's Modula-2 editor
is _supposed_ to load up this file when editing the source code and
show the errors on the screen, along with english descriptors.
 
        Unfortunately, it doesn't.  It loads up the file to be edited
as per normal, but acts as if the .ERM file doesn't exist.  This makes
debugging very, very hard to do as I would have to get a hardcopy of
the .ERM file, move the cursor around manually to the row/column
coordiantes, and then look in a book to get a translation of the error
number.  On a practical level, this is too time consuming to be
worthwhile-- especially with the large programming assignments I will
soon be receiving.
 
        I have copied the editor and compiler to the A: drive and
recompiled my module to see if there was still a problem with the ram
disk accessory, but have received the same results.  I have disabled
all accessories (except the ramdisk accessory), and all items in my
AUTO folder to be sure there was nothing "clogging" up the editor.
 
        Since TDI's ramdisk had a problem with TOS 1.4, I am assuming
that the editor's problem is also with TOS 1.4.  I am thus left with
two options:
 
        1) Get a patch/fix for this problem.  Anyone have an
idea/suggestion?
 
        2) Reinstall my old TOS 1.0 chips.  (GROAN!)  I hate to do it,
but the class is so programming intesive and my (working) Modula
language is so much superior than what we have at my universitie's
mainframe that I would be willing to make the scarifice.  If I have to
do it, could anyone please mail me the schematics on which order to
place in the chips?  My chips are labelled as such: 7K2 A6, 6M4 A7,
6M3 A4, 7K3 B4, 6M3 6(B?) 6M3 A6.
 
        Thanks a *lot* to anyone who can help me!
 
Perry Pederson
 
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Date: 21 Apr 91 19:12:38 GMT
From:
 noao!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!think.com!mintaka!b
 loom-beacon!eru!kth.se!sunic!mcsun!hp4nl!star.cs.vu.nl!hvaalde@arizona.edu
 (Aalderen van Harold)
Subject: Megafile 60 noisy startup/ shutdown
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
csbrod@immd4.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Claus Brod) writes:
 
>geert@ahds.UUCP (Geert W.T. Jonkheer CCS/TS) writes:
 
>>When I start up or shut down my megafile 60 it always makes and has
>>made a cracking/ noisy sound. After it has startup it doesn't make
>>this sound no longer, and works just fine.
 
>The sound is from autoparking the heads during shutdown and releasing
>them during startup. Perfectly normal.
 
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
Do all megafile 60 drives have autopark? I own one and never noticed it
I use the ship program every time I shut down my computer
 
How can I find out if my disk autoparks?
 
Harold van Aalderen (hvaalde@cs.vu.nl)
 
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Date: 22 Apr 91 11:35:24 GMT
From:
 noao!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.ed
 u!emory!gatech!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!ysub!psuvm!dbngmd13!dmswwu1c!onm07@arizona.e
 du (Julian F. Reschke)
Subject: Okami Shell - NOT with VI, NO ARGV/xARG support!
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
All these things will be possible in the next Mupfel version (which will
have a 99% bourne shell compatible script language, main difference to
sh: it will be able to cope with 8-bit characters).
 
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Date: 21 Apr 91 20:35:03 GMT
From: IFI.UIO.NO!larserio@ucbvax.berkeley.edu (LarsErikOsterud)
Subject: STE Demo / Demo Party
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
Sound demo for STE and MEGA STE (by Karl Anders 0ygard)
-------------------------------------------------------
This demo is packed with LHARC and MSA disk packer (included)
Disk is auto-booting and needs STE and COLOR monitor to run.
It's the very best STE demo and sound I have ever heard !!!!
-------------------------------------------------------------
The very newest version of ESION XLI is also on this disk...
 
<tried to post it to comp.binaries but it's an 800k LZH-file>
 
GREAT DEMO PARTY IN THIS SUMMER
-------------------------------
If you want to come to our great ST DEMO-PARTY in Norway this
summer then PLEASE TELL ME and I'll post you invitation and
maps (in Degas format).  The greatest demo coders from both
Sweden, Norway and lots of European groups will be there !!
Don't miss your change to meet those great demo programmers.
 
Greetings to all ST-users from Norway......
 
 Lars-Erik  /  ABK-BBS +47 2132659  /   ____ ______ ________________________
  Osterud  /  larserio@ifi.uio.no  /   /___    /            The norwegian ST
__________/ ______________________/   ____/   /   Klubben,  user association
 
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Date: 22 Apr 91 02:37:26 GMT
From:
 noao!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!usc!jarthur!petunia!csuchico.edu!ekrimen@arizona.edu
 (Ed Krimen)
Subject: STE Demo / Demo Party
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
Keywords:
 
In article <CMM.0.90.2.672266103.larserio@kvart.ifi.uio.no> larserio@ifi.uio.no
 writes:
>Sound demo for STE and MEGA STE (by Karl Anders 0ygard)
>-------------------------------------------------------
>This demo is packed with LHARC and MSA disk packer (included)
>Disk is auto-booting and needs STE and COLOR monitor to run.
>It's the very best STE demo and sound I have ever heard !!!!
>-------------------------------------------------------------
>The very newest version of ESION XLI is also on this disk...
>
><tried to post it to comp.binaries but it's an 800k LZH-file>
>
 
Lars, send it to me.  I'll send it to atari.archive.  Hey, and if you got
anymore stuff, send it to me too.  I'll send them to a.a also.
 
 
>GREAT DEMO PARTY IN THIS SUMMER
>-------------------------------
>If you want to come to our great ST DEMO-PARTY in Norway this
>summer then PLEASE TELL ME and I'll post you invitation and
>maps (in Degas format).  The greatest demo coders from both
>Sweden, Norway and lots of European groups will be there !!
>Don't miss your change to meet those great demo programmers.
>
 
Hey, I'll be there!
 
Just kidding.... ;~)
 
--
         Ed Krimen  ...............................................
   |||   Video Production Major, California State University, Chico
   |||   INTERNET: ekrimen@ecst.csuchico.edu  FREENET: al661
  / | \  SysOp, Fuji BBS: 916-894-1261        FIDONET: 1:119/4.0
 
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Date: 22 Apr 91 14:00:16 GMT
From: noao!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!know!login@arizona.edu (Marc A. Lombardo)
Subject: The Atari SIG on the Freenet!
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
I thought all of you may be interested in logging on to the Cleveland
Freenet.  It has undergone some big changes in the past weeks, and I thought
I would post a message written by one of the SIGops of the Atari SIG to
usenet, so all of you could try it out.  The Atari SIG is one of the largest
on the system, it has several different message forums.
 
:
 
                    A "Remodeled" Atari S.I.G. Opens
 
 
       By now many of you have heard of the Cleveland Freenet, or more
specifically the Atari S.I.G. on the Cleveland Freenet.  For those who
haven't, the Cleveland Freenet is an experimental computer system providing
free public community telecomputing.  Basically, it's a lot like a public
library of the future.  Many of these systems are popping up all over the
country.  Don't be surprised if one pops up in your neighborhood in the
future.
       Anyways, upon logging onto the Freenet one comes across the hundreds
of Special Interest Groups on the Freenet ranging from a culinary and gaming
SIGs to a Veterinarian, Dental, and Medical information dispensories.
Another area is the Computer Corner which consists of many computer SIGs.
The Atari SIG is one of the largest computer sigs here and is growing
everyday.
       Recently the Atari SIG has undergone a significant face-lift.  All
the regular areas are intact including its news sections, user group
newsletter, online magazine sections, general as well as specific
computer discussion boards (8 bit, 16/32 bit, Lynx, Portfolio), and our
weekly Sunday night multi-chat conference.
       The conference starts at 8pm EST sharp and is on channel
"+Ataricon".  What the staff at the Atari SIG has added, has given the
Atari SIG the potential to cover all grounds of Atari and its related
products.
       The most noticeable addition to the Atari SIG is the Programming
and Development Forum.  This forum is intended to be used by developers,
professional programmers, and Atari hackers (the old definition of
"hacker") as a means to share ideas, help each other out, and find out
the latest technical information on Atari's products.  This board is ran
by newly acquired SIG Operator, Peter Haller, a professional programmer
who is running developer sections on hardware and software development,
programming, MIDI applications development, Graphics Design,
plus many other sections that can definitely become a programmer and
developer's dream come true!
       Last, but definitely not least, the Atari SIG has a restructured
Product Info and Support Board and a new Special Applications Board.
The Support Board includes a vast library of support lists.  These lists
range anywhere from phone numbers of Atari dealers and producers, to
software reviews for 8 bit, 16/32 bit, Lynx, and Portfolio software.
To sum it all up this area covers what's out there, who makes it, and how
to get it for all Atari products.  The Special Applications Board is
just starting out.  Currently there is an area for users of MIDI on the
ST.  MIDI users are encouraged to use this as a means to discuss MIDI
related topics.  This section is expected to expand in the future.
        Accessing the Atari SIG has never been easier.  One can access it
via Internet by telenet'ing to 129.22.8.75 or "Freenet-in-b.cwru.edu"
or by calling (216) 368-3888 300/1200/2400 bps.  Once on the system,
a user can apply for an account application and logon as a visitor.
Once here, simply type "Go Atari" to get to the Atari SIG.  A visitor
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Date: Sun, 21 Apr 91 19:57:53 WET DST
From: Mr I C Mccall <csd015@central1.lancaster.ac.uk>
Subject: VKiller 3.81
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
Someone recently said that VKiller is up to version 3.81 now. I've only
got up to 3.11, so where can I get this new version from?
 
Also, as an afterthought, does anyone know if the hard drive in the Mega
STE is just an MFM drive being controlled by a SCSI interface, or
whether it's true SCSI? If it's just MFM, then when it's finally
released in the UK (anyone from Atari listening out there? Hello? Earth
calling Atari...please come in, Atari...) I can upgrade the Mega 1 to a
better standard than the Mega 2 for less.
 
I know Canada has released a Mega 1, so does someone over there know
anything about this?
 
 
Thanks for any info,
                        Ian McCall (csd015@uk.ac.lancs.cent1)
 
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