Info-Atari16 Digest         Thu, 17 Oct 91       Volume 91 : Issue 535
 
Today's Topics:
                              Delirious?
                           HP Laserjet IIIP
       Message Router VMSmail Gateway nondelivery notification
                        Mystery hard disk help
                        PageStream v18 -> buy?
 
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Date: 7 Oct 91 15:57:26 GMT
From: bu.edu!bucsf.bu.edu!selick@uunet.uu.net (Steven Selick)
Subject: Delirious?
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
I got Delirious from terminator.cc.umich.edu and it just says 'Don't
worry...Loading delirious' and the floppy drive will keep clicking for
all eternity. I tried on 2 different disks to see if it was a problem. I
have a 4 meg 1040ste...
 
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Date: 7 Oct 91 15:29:45 GMT
From:
 noao!ncar!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!dhbutler@arizona.
 edu (David Butler)
Subject: HP Laserjet IIIP
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
In article <1991Oct5.002306.7446@sactoh0.sac.ca.us> sap@sactoh0.sac.ca.us (Step
han A. Puga) writes:
>What is involved in hooking up an HP Laserjet IIIP to my computer?  Are
>there any features I would not be able to take advantage of?  What about
>fonts?  Will the new GDOS work well with it?  I have Pagestream and
>WordPerfect (which both have drivers for Laserjets), how well do these
>work?  What about the options for the printer (i.e. toner cartridges, font
>cards, memory upgrades, etc.)?
>
>                                    Thanks in advance,
>                                            Stephan A. Puga
>--
 
To everyone out there looking into LaserJet III (&IIIp), they are great! They
produce output better than most 600dpi printers. They will work with virtually
any of the older LaserJet drivers. You will, however, NEED more memory to use
either Calamus or PageStream. I have 3megs in mine, and I have never had a
problem with memory. When I bought it it had only 1meg, and neither Calamus nor
PageStream would print a full page at highest quality. I bought a second party
memory card with 2megs for $180, it works fine, and 1meg from HP is $300. So I
recomend second party add-ons.
 
- David Butler -
                  "What ever happened to free love anyway?"
 
                  -innagaddadaviddababy-
 
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Info-Atari16 Digest         Thu, 17 Oct 91       Volume 91 : Issue 532
 
Today's Topics:
                       6 new Macs from Apple...
                                 FAQ?
                        For Sale: Atari 1040ST
                            HD disk drives
Install an app for two diff filetypes, term with IBM graphics option?
                LHARC 2.01E VS ZOO 2.1: SOME (2 msgs)
                             Mercury Help
                         Monochrome pictures
                   MS-DOS Emulator recommendations?
                                 OS's
                   PageStream v18 -> buy? (3 msgs)
    People dumping machines (was.. Atari Mega 2 system.. for sale)
                          perl for Atari ST
                 TeX/Metafont Distribution Available
                               Uniterm
                          Where ca I go...?
                          Wot A Scorcher !!!
 
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Date: 6 Oct 91 20:43:15 GMT
From: crabapple.srv.cs.cmu.edu!andrew.cmu.edu!mc4c+@pt.cs.cmu.edu (Mark Choi)
Subject: 6 new Macs from Apple...
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.atari.st: 2-Oct-91 6 new Macs from
Apple... Karl Anders 0ygard@aahs. (859)
 
 
> Apple recently announced the release of 6 new macs. The probably most
> interesting of these are the three 'powerbooks'. These are an answer
> (pretty late, if u ask me) to the PC notebooks. There will be two
> 'regular' powerbooks, the first with a 68000 processor and the second
> with a 68030 processor. The last powerbook will feature no keyboard,
> and is operated by writing direcly on the screen with a pen (sounds
> pretty familiar, hm?). All of these will weight in the vicinity of
> 2.5 kilos and are produced in cooperation with Sony.
 
> Also Apple will launch two new Macs with using the 68040 processor.
> (How do you like that, Dave Small?) These will run by the name 'Quanta'.
> There will be a desktop and a floor version.
 
> Eventually there's a replacement for the SE/30, the Super Classic.
 
Get your facts straight.
There are indeed three new notebook macs comeing out, but none of them
is a pen based machine. They are all variations on the same basic
notbook design.
The new 68040 machines are the Quadra 600? and the 900, and they are
really for massive servers mopre than desktop maschines and are in tower
cases.
The new classic is called the classic/030, or 030/classic.
 
nice machines, but overpriced, sorta like atari.
 
 
 
mark
 
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Date: 6 Oct 91 10:17:07 GMT
From:
 noao!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!qt.cs.utexas.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!think.com!
 snorkelwacker.mit.edu!bloom-beacon!eru!hagbard!sunic!dkuug!diku!kurt@arizona.ed
 u (Kurt M. Alonso)
Subject: FAQ?
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
Hi netters,
 
I just bought an el-cheapo ST520 and I have some questions.
 
+ I have an original atari 360K drive. Can this drive read
  Macintosh or PC disks, or do I have to invest in a better drive?
 
+ How can I upgrade the RAM? Do I have to buy a special board and
  fiddle with the hardware to get beyond 1M?
 
+ What processor upgrades are there available? I have heard of the
  SST board. Can I install it without pain in my ST?
 
 
Thanks in advance for your answer
 
--
e-mail: kurt@diku.dk
 
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Date: 4 Oct 91 02:50:42 GMT
From:
 ucivax!orion.oac.uci.edu!unogate!mvb.saic.com!ncr-sd!ncrcae!hubcap!gatech!prism
 !gt1448b@locus.ucla.edu (David P. Forrai)
Subject: For Sale: Atari 1040ST
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
For Sale:
 
    1) An Atari 1040ST computer (TOS 1.0, 3.5" DSDD internal
       floppy drive, 1 meg RAM, mouse, 1987 USA Language Disk,
       owner's manual)
 
    2) Tech Specialities unpopulated 4 meg RAM upgrade board
 
If you're interested in either or both, make me an offer.  I'll
pay shipping.
 
--
David P. Forrai
uucp:     ...!{decvax,hplabs,ncar,purdue,rutgers}!gatech!prism!gt1448b
Internet: gt1448b@prism.gatech.edu
 
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Date: 6 Oct 91 13:36:22 GMT
From: IFI.UIO.NO!larserio@ucbvax.berkeley.edu (LarsErikOsterud)
Subject: HD disk drives
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
As both the Atari MEGA STE and the TT has build in option for use
of HIGH DENSITY floppy disk drives in the operating system and a
possibility to turn this on by moving a DIP switch I have the
following question:
 
- When will Atari release a 16 MHz version of th WD-1772 FDC
  that will read/write HD disks without heating up to much
 
- When will a HD drive that fits in the ST drive slot be available
  I have tried other drives, but the front from the ST drive won't
  fit (the button is fittet in another way etc etc etc...)
 
I know other companies can deliver FDC that manange HD drives, but
that stills leaves us with the last problem.....
 
 
 Lars-Erik  /  Registered Developer  /  ABK-BBS +47 2132659  /  ____ ______
  0sterud  /  w/ Atari Scandinavia  /  larserio@ifi.uio.no  /  /___    /
__________/ _______________________/ ______________________/  ____/   /
 
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Date: 7 Oct 91 10:01:10 GMT
From:
 noao!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!sdd.hp.com!spool.mu.edu!hri.com!ukma!vlsi!ULKYVX.BITN
 ET!R0MILL01@arizona.edu (Robert Delius Royar)
Subject: Install an app for two diff filetypes, term with IBM graphics option?
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
Be sure not to delete any trailing spaces after each line, and be careful
not to exceed 1024 bytes (each lines gets a CRLF appended in ST memory on
read).  That 1024 limit is not for TOS 1.4 but for earlier versions.  TOS
1.4 and above upped it to 4098.  But some programs will barf if the shell-
put/get buffer is too large.
 
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Date: 6 Oct 91 16:37:38 GMT
From: mcsun!unido!nixpbe!offbeat!mboen@uunet.uu.net (Martin Boening)
Subject: LHARC 2.01E VS ZOO 2.1: SOME
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
In <686575281.1@fquest.FidoNet> Philip.Durgin@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Philip Durgin)
 writes:
 
>I did my own research between ZOO 2.1 and LHarc 2.01E and found the following.
>
>1) Hacker.txt    10232
>2) hacker.prg   124698
>
>This is an on-line game for my BBS was compress with both ZOO and LHARC
>
>LHarc: 64089 bytes in size after compression taking 55 seconds to do so.
>ZOO  : 88312 bytes in size after compression taking 47 seconds to do so.
>
>both took 15 secs to extract the files.
>
>Compressing a .GIF picture named ARMY1.gif 168010
>
>164078 after LHarc compression
>220107 after ZOO   compression
>
 
Oh no, here we go again. These figures look a lot like Zoo 2.0 compression
for the zoo files. To get high compression mode for Zoo 2.1, don't forget
to use the 'h' flag on the command line. Then Zoo will come real close to
lharc.
 
The biggest advantage of zoo is: I've got it for MINIX, for UNIX of many
flavors, for DOS, and for TOS. (Maybe I'll even have a CP/M version one
day). And the zoo versions are all compatible.
 
Also zoo makes a fine archivin tool, allowing me to put comments for the
generated archive and/or the separate files into the archive, allowing for
generations (i.e. several versions of one file), and lots of goodies. It
can archive full pathnames and for TOS, recursively collect files. So,
what more can one want?
 
Now, please try that 'h' option and test again.
 
Over and out.
Martin
--
Email: in the   USA ->  mboening.pad@sni-usa.com
       outside  USA ->  mboening.pad@sni.de
Paper Mail: Martin Boening, Siemens Nixdorf Informationssys. AG, SNI STO SI 325,
            Pontanusstr. 55, 4790 Paderborn, W.-Germany  (Phone: +49 5251 846155)
 
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Date: 6 Oct 91 19:13:43 GMT
From:
 noao!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!uwm.edu!ogicse!ucsd!sdcc6!sdcc13!atilghma@arizona.edu
 (Adam Tilghman)
Subject: LHARC 2.01E VS ZOO 2.1: SOME
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
In article <686575281.1@fquest.FidoNet> Philip.Durgin@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Philip
 Durgin) writes:
>I did my own research between ZOO 2.1 and LHarc 2.01E and found the following.
>
    ...  example deleted ...
>
>If being able to compress files 73% smaller than ZOO is not a significant
>difference then you must have HD space to burn.... And not being to Compress a
>.GIF picture at all is unthinkable. I guess I am going to stay with LHARC until
>ZOO can show a much better track record than the one available.
>
 
  Did you consider the fact that GIF pictures are already Lempel-Ziv
compressed?  This does signal a shortfall in the ZOO code, however, if the
finding is correct - ZOO should be able to simply STORE a file if it
can't compress it...
 
  But I'll be sticking with ZOO for now - ZOO is already installed
here at UCSD, and LHArc isn't.
 
s
 
i
--
==== Adam G. Tilghman - atilghma@sdcc13.ucsd.edu - (619)558-2141 ====
==  "Martha, fetch my rifle - thar's another UCSD ECE undergrad!"  ==
 
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Date: 5 Oct 91 17:41:56 GMT
From: mcsun!unido!horga!nathan!ue@uunet.uu.net (Udo Erdelhoff)
Subject: Mercury Help
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
In <A0bcm334@jonh.wimsey.bc.ca>, John Henders writes:
 
Hi John,
>       Does anyone know how to get the Mercury UUCP package to handle
>long group names? Mail to Rodney goes unanswered, but doesn't bounce,
>so I don't know if he's still around. I've tried to get the group
>alt.society.cu-digest, and it just doesn't show up.
 
Maybe the "-" is your problem. I'm also using Mercury's RMail here, and one
group is called "sub.newusers.questions". I do not have any problems with
that group (and the name is one char longer than yours).
/s/
--
Udo Erdelhoff        ue@nathan.ruhr.de        Fido: Udo Erdelhoff on 2:245/52.1
 
 
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Date: 4 Oct 91 22:47:13 GMT
From:
 noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!sdd.hp.com!cs.utexas.edu!utgpu!watserv1!watdragon!
 rose.waterloo.edu!cjherborth@arizona.edu (Chris Herborth)
Subject: Monochrome pictures
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
To start an almost completely useless thread:
 
Does anyone know of a decent source for good monochrome 640x400 images
(.GIF, Degas, .IMG, whatever) that would be suitable for background pictures
on my desktop?  I've got this really great rendition of the cover from
Jean Michel Jarre's Oxygene album, but I'm getting a little sick of it...
 
In case you're curious, I think I downloaded it from GEnie...
 
---------------=============================================---------------
Chris Herborth                         cjherborth@{rose|lotus}.waterloo.edu
3B Hons English RPW                                       GEnie: C.HERBORTH
        Never send a monster to do the work of an Evil Scientist...
 
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Date: 6 Oct 91 18:09:29 GMT
From:
 europa.asd.contel.com!awds.imsd.contel.com!wlbr!lonex.rl.af.mil!longj@uunet.uu.
 net (Jeffrey K. Long)
Subject: MS-DOS Emulator recommendations?
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
I have decided that I have had it with not being able to find any software
for my beloved 1040STE!!!
 
I DO NOT WANT TO GET RID OF MY STE!!!  I DO WANT to be be able to buy some of
the more popular software packages (I.e. Quicken, Tobias' MYM etc..) and
use them in addition to the stuff I now know and love on my STE (like
Flash, GNU-C,...) so I am looking at buying an MS-DOS Emulator.
 
NO, I don't want to start a "don't buy an Emulator, buy a cheap IBM"
thread hear, I can't afford 600-1000 dollars to get a decent IBM with HD,
plus I don't have the room for two systems.
 
SO---can all of you emulator users out there give me a 'lessons learned'?
Specifically, relative merits, problems of the emulator you are using?
I am interested mostly in speed of use for common MS-DOS programs like
Work Processors, Financial and Data-Base stuff, not in running heavy
graphics oriented stuff like windows etc..
 
What is the best MS-DOS emulator for my money, one that will work with my
STE and ICD based hard-drive?  I don't mind a solder-in board, so
installation is not one of the criterion I am too worried about, more
compatibility and speed.
 
Thanks in advance!!
Jeff
--
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Capt Jeff Long                         Rome Laboratories, Griffiss AFB, NY
longj@lonex.rl.af.mil (preferred)      Network Design Laboratory
jlong@cassiopeia.rl.af.mil             (315)330-7751 or (DSN)587-7751
 
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Date: 6 Oct 91 16:02:17 GMT
From:
 noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!rpi!news-server.
 csri.toronto.edu!generic.physics.utoronto.ca!julian!julian.uwo.ca!ersmith@arizo
 na.edu (Eric Smith)
Subject: OS's
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
In article <1991Oct4.150440.1960@tripos.com> downey@tripos.com (Tom Downey)
 writes:
>I am a unix kinda guy and have been using gulam.
>I am not completely happy (who is?) with it.
>Is mint better?  what about minix?
>
 
gulam is just a shell, not an operating system. MiNT, on the other
hand, is just an operating system, not a shell. MiNT extends GEMDOS so
that some new features (multitasking, pipes, job control, and many
more) are available; but there's no particular shell that *must* go
with it. You can use gulam with MiNT (I do, sometimes), or you can use
a shell like bash or ksh that can take advantage of MiNT features.
 
minix is another animal entirely; it's a new operating system that
replaces TOS completely, rather than providing extensions for TOS. It
comes with a clone of the standard Unix shell sh (which isn't very
nice for interactive use), and with a lot of nice utilities. Note that
you cannot run existing TOS programs under minix.
 
So which is best? It depends on what you want. You didn't really say
what you disliked about gulam. It may be that another shell running
under just TOS (e.g. GEMINI, which is a very nice one) may satisfy
your needs. If you want multitasking, job control, and pipes, get MiNT
and add bash, ksh, and/or mgr. If you want to chuck it all and start
all over, you may want to try minix; give MiNT a try first, though.
 
  --Eric
 
PS: you also mentioned dissatisfaction with your C compiler. Try gcc:
it's free, and it's one of the best C compilers available.
--
Eric R. Smith   ersmith@julian.uwo.ca   eric.smith@uwo.ca
 
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Date: 6 Oct 91 17:52:49 GMT
From: noao!ncar!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!usc!rpi!dinsmm@arizona.edu (Michael John
 Dinsmore)
Subject: PageStream v18 -> buy?
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
   Hi!
   I just downloaded a demo version of PageStream.  This program looks
very nice and I am considering buying it.  A few questions first though:
Is it one of the best DTP programs for the ST? The best?
Can you get different fonts for it easily?  Can you make the file
   into standard PostScript?
How much is it?  Is there any place where I can buy it?  Address? Phone?
 
   Thanks a lot for your help!
 
   ____   /\/\
   \MD/  /    \ike         "You can twist perceptions, reality won't budge."
    \/   dinsmm@rpi.edu                                   - Neil Peart, RUSH
 
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Date: 6 Oct 91 22:14:36 GMT
From:
 noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!milano!cactus.org!covert@ari
 zona.edu (Richard Covert)
Subject: PageStream v18 -> buy?
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
In article <q-9nmam@rpi.edu> dinsmm@aix.rpi.edu (Michael John Dinsmore) writes:
>
>   Hi!
>   I just downloaded a demo version of PageStream.  This program looks
>very nice and I am considering buying it.  A few questions first though:
>Is it one of the best DTP programs for the ST? The best?
>Can you get different fonts for it easily?  Can you make the file
>   into standard PostScript?
>How much is it?  Is there any place where I can buy it?  Address? Phone?
>
 
PageStream (PgS) is now at version 1.2, and is one of the best dtp packages
out. i t now supports EPS clip art as well.
 
I own both it and Calamus 1.09N (which hasn't been updated this year) and well
some prefer Calamus I think that PgS is easier to learn and to use.
 
There is a magazine (diskzine or somesuch) called RADICAL TYPE to support
the Atari ST and the Amiga version of PgS.
 
Softlogic publishes PGS and is an American Company in St. Louis MI.
 
It uses Adobe Type I fonts now as well as PgS propreitary fonts.
 
what else?  well it works well with my Panasonic KXP4450 laser printer.
 
I highly recommend PgS and Softlogic.
 
--
Richard E. Covert                 covert@cactus.org
CACTUS                  ..!cs.utexas.edu!cactus.org!covert
 
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Date: 6 Oct 91 22:16:17 GMT
From:
 noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!milano!cactus.org!covert@ari
 zona.edu (Richard Covert)
Subject: PageStream v18 -> buy?
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
isorry, PgS is at version 2.1 not 1.2 as I said in my last messgae.
 
another nice thing is that Softlogic comes with two new manuals.
 
Softlogic is a very good company, IMHO
.
 
--
Richard E. Covert                 covert@cactus.org
CACTUS                  ..!cs.utexas.edu!cactus.org!covert
 
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Date: 7 Oct 91 01:51:41 GMT
From: munnari.oz.au!bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au!uqcspe!cs.uq.oz.au!warwick@uunet.uu.net
 (Warwick Allison)
Subject: People dumping machines (was.. Atari Mega 2 system.. for sale)
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
england@milton.u.washington.edu (Gregory Miller) writes:
 
>warwick@cs.uq.oz.au writes:
>>jvance@bonnie.ics.uci.edu (Joachim Vance) writes:
>>
>>That was my guess, from seeing the "Blitter" option greyed out (ie. disabled)
>>on my friend's TT.  It seems to me that if TurboST and QuickST can do better
>>than the blitter (though I'm still not convinced), then certainly even the
>>coders at Atari can do better with a 32MHz machine.
 
>What does it take to convince you that TurboST et al do better than the
>blitter?  A simple comparison of a non-blitter machine vs. a blitter
>machine (no TurboST or QuickST allowed!) is all that should be needed
>to convince anyone!  There simply is no really noticeable difference!
 
I don't need to be convinced that TurboST is faster - that's obvious.  I'm not
convinced that TurboST implements all calls _exactly_ as Atari intends them
to be.  (I heard that Gemini, for one, does not work correctly with TurboST).
 
Warwick.
--
  _-_|\       warwick@cs.uq.oz.au
 /     *  <-- Computer Science Department,
 \_.-._/      University of Queensland,
      v       Brisbane, AUSTRALIA.
 
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Date: 7 Oct 91 06:25:57 GMT
From: cadence!cadence.com!bammi@uunet.uu.net (Jwahar R. Bammi)
Subject: perl for Atari ST
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
In article <LAHTINEN.91Oct4110252@gideon.fmi.fi> lahtinen@gideon.fmi.fi (Kimmo
 Lahtinen) writes:
 
> I would like to know if there is perl version 4 for Atari ST.
> I have a beta version of version 3. It works OK, but is there
> a later version.
 
        yeah, i ported perl 4 patchlevel 10. it seems to pass almost
all the tests, except for the obvious ones.
 
--
--
bang:   uunet!cadence!bammi                     jwahar r. bammi
domain: bammi@cadence.com
GEnie:  J.Bammi
CIS:    71515,155
 
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Date: 4 Oct 91 10:14:23 GMT
From: noao!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!utgpu!watserv1!bmaraldo@arizona.edu (Commander
 Brett Maraldo)
Subject: TeX/Metafont Distribution Available
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
Plexus Productions TeX/Metafont Release v2.0  (P~D TeX v2.0)
 
        I have recently complied all the TeX and Metafont stuff I could
get my hands on into a coherent and well formed distribution.  The system
is available on about 24 double-sided disks for the Atari ST.  It included:
        TeX 2.9 (3.1 would've been nice but I could get little support from
                the author)
          this included Plain tex, LaTeX, PicTeX (pictures), MuTeX (music),
          Initex, texinfo, 'A Gentle Introduction to TeX' (a good starter
          manual), BibTex, Tex\Latex\Pictex\Bibtex etc input files.
        TeX Draw which allows you to WYSIWYG draw and output the picture
          in Latex, Pictex format.
        Competent dvi viewers and printers including utilities and fonts
          and a DVI to Postscript converter
        Metafont with complete font sources for CM, AMS Euler and Cyrilic,
          LaTeX, MuTeX, Wasy and Pandora fonts.  also inimf and other
          utility files
        Ten disks filled with fonts
 
all files are unarced and properly foldered.  I am including a hardcopy
laser printed copy of 'A Gentle Introduction to TeX' and well as relevant
DVI, etc docs.  I al also including a manual describing the files and
which ones you need to install for particular requirements.
The distribution is available for $75 Canadian.  This pays for the disks
(24 of so) and a bit for the time it took to compile the distribution.
You also get my support.  If you want more info or would like to order,
please write to:
Plexus Productions
Brett Maraldo
38 York Street
Kitchener, Ontario
N2G 1T2  Canada
tel 519 742 0370
 
make all MONEY ORDERS (try not to send a cheque) out to Brett Maraldo
--
               --------     Unit 36 Research     ---------
                        "Alien Technology Today"
                      bmaraldo@watserv1.UWaterloo.ca
                   {uunet!clyde!utai}!watserv1!bmaraldo
 
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Date: 7 Oct 91 05:55:00 GMT
From: ub!acsu.buffalo.edu!ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu!v051lpqa@rutgers.rutgers.edu
 (Dough the demented)
Subject: Uniterm
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
Hello,
  Is it possible to get the source for uniterm?  If so, could someone tell me
where to get it.
 
Thanks!
 
Dough
 
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Date: 6 Oct 91 23:42:15 GMT
From:
 noao!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!pacific.mps.ohio-st
 ate.edu!ohstpy!miavx1!miamiu!jc5lsanu@arizona.edu
Subject: Where ca I go...?
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
could someone E-mail me a place to go in Ohio.  I would like to find a place
in the Cincinnatti, Dayton, or Columbus area.
 
                            John crider
 
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*** jc5lsanu@miamiu.bitnet |                                        |
*** jmcrider@miavx1.bitnet |   You are the epicenter of my          |
                           |           nothingness.                 |
                           |                       - Anon           |
                            -=%-=%-=%-=%-=%-=%-=%-=%-=%-=%-=%-=%-=%-=
 
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Date: 6 Oct 91 23:52:36 GMT
From:
 noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!sdd.hp.com!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.oh
 io-state.edu!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!cleveland.Freenet.Edu!al885@arizona.edu
 (Gerard Pinzone)
Subject: Wot A Scorcher !!!
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
In a previous article, glens@natinst.com (Glen Sescila) says:
 
>
>       Oops, I left out one quetion.  Do these Mega-Demos use some sort
>of video mode that I am unaware of or something.  I have to adjust my
>Vertical-Hold knob on my Multi-Sync monitor when I run most demos.  This
>is not a complaint! I am just curious if I am missing out on a special video
>mode (I do a little Assembler dabbling myself).
>
The demos are in 50Hz. My monitor rolled as well when I first bought it.
Basically, you have to adust it so it's stable for both 50Hz and 60Hz.
 
 
--
Just on the border of your waking mind, there lies another time, where darkness
and light are one. And as you tread the halls of sanity, you feel so glad to be
unable to go beyond. I have a message from another time.....   - ELO: "Prologue
from the "Time" album -- Daicon IV Opening Animation    gpinzone@george.poly.ed
 
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