Info-Atari16 Digest         Mon, 22 Apr 91       Volume 91 : Issue 225
 
Today's Topics:
               Are there any 3270 emulators for the ST?
                        Atari Portfolio users!
                         FTP Beginner's Guide
      Ghostscript source and binaries uploaded to atari.archive
                   Hard Disk "Gatekeeper" (2 msgs)
                 Harddisk high level format software
                         hard drive project.
                          LIFE3.LZH (2 msgs)
                 Megafile 60 noisy startup/ shutdown
                     new upload on atari.archive
                           Other FTL games?
    Uploading to atari.archive & comp.{binaries,sources}.atari.st
                             which demos?
 
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Date: 22 Apr 91 21:56:54 GMT
From:
 noao!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!usc!rpi!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!utgpu!cunews!bnr
 gate!bigsur!bnr-rsc!bcarh166!smiller@arizona.edu (Scott Miller)
Subject: Are there any 3270 emulators for the ST?
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
Is there a software package that will emulate a 3270-type IBM terminal?
I want it to dialup a mainframe.  (Naturally)
 
Reply to the net, please.
 
 
 
*****************************************************************************
Scott Miller, in the bowels of Bell-Northern Research    Voice:(613) 763-2992
                               P.O. Box 3511, Station C
signature USES DISCLAIMER;    Ottawa, Ontario, Canada, K1Y 4H7
 
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Date: 22 Apr 91 14:14:42 GMT
From:
 noao!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!sdd.hp.com!spool.mu.edu!news.cs.indiana.edu!nstn.ns.c
 a!cs.dal.ca!silvert@arizona.edu (Bill Silvert)
Subject: Atari Portfolio users!
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
In article <9104210421.AA14688@cwns5.INS.CWRU.Edu> aa399@cleveland.Freenet.Edu
 writes:
>
>I know this is an Atari ST Board but I don't think there is a board
>specifically for the Portfolio on Usenet.
 
I assume that when you say Board you mean Newsgroup.  Try
comp.sys.handhelds for information on the Portfolio.  Not that there is
a lot of activity there, it is mostly HP48SX stuff (although the group
is in the process of splitting), but there is some.  Also some Portfolio
stuff appears in comp.sys.laptops.
 
--
William Silvert, Habitat Ecology Division, Bedford Inst. of Oceanography
P. O. Box 1006, Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, CANADA B2Y 4A2.  Tel. (902)426-1577
UUCP=..!{uunet|watmath}!dalcs!biome!silvert
BITNET=silvert%biome%dalcs@dalac        InterNet=silvert%biome@cs.dal.ca
 
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Date: 22 Apr 91 19:28:49 GMT
From:
 noao!asuvax!ukma!rex!samsung!umich!terminator!terminator.cc.umich.edu!weiner@ar
 izona.edu (Jeff Weiner)
Subject: FTP Beginner's Guide
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
This is a basic guide to ftp.  It is intended only to get you on your
way to ftp happiness.  Please let me know if you have any comments,
questions, or suggestions.
 
weiner@atari.archive.umich.edu
 

                        Jeff Weiner's FTP Basics Vol.1 #1
 
 
Part 1: Logging in
To begin an ftp session, the first thing you need to do is log in to our
machine.  You can do this by issuing the 'ftp atari.archive.umich.edu'
command.  You should then see something like this:
 
Connected to atari.archive.umich.edu.
220 atari.archive.umich.edu FTP server (Version 4.169 Wed Jan 2 17:03:56 EST 199
1) ready.
Name (yourhost.domain.edu:yourusername):
 
At this prompt you'll want to type 'anonymous'.  On some hosts, the word
'guest' will work, but 'anonymous' is always a sure bet.
 
If you don't see this login prompt, but instead get something like
'Our host was unable to trace a name back to (some internet address).
 We only accept ftp from properly registered hosts', then you'll have to
ask your sys-admin to properly register your machine in its name servers.
There's nothing we can do on this end, so please don't bother asking.
Also, if your machine doesn't allow you to specify the atari.archive name,
try using out internet address : 141.211.164.8  Then, march down to
your sys-admins office and ask him to install name-service.  Your life will
become much easier.
 
Assuming you recieved the above prompt, you'll then be asked for a
password.  Use your mail address. For example, I would use
'weiner@atari.archive.umich.edu'
 
 
Part 2: Basic Commands
Once you're logged on, there's a few basic commands you'll want to know about.
 
ls  : lists the names of files of sub-directories in a directory.
ls -C  : Lists the files horizontally, instead of vertically.
dir : does the same thing as ls, but is needed on some other machines
ls -l : A verbose listing of files.  Includes permissions, filesize, etc.
cd  : changes directories (i.e. 'cd atari' would put you in the atari area)
cd .. : Goes 'back up' a directory, to the one you came from.
 
These are about all you need to get moving around the archive.
 
 
Part 3: Getting the Goddies
 
The main reason you want to ftp in the first place is to quickly transfer
files.  More often than not, you'll want to transfer the files from
the archive to your account.  You can do this using the following commands:
 
First, find the file you want to download.
Second, issue the command 'type binary'.  This tells our machine that
you'll be transferring a binary file.  This is really important.  You'll
waste a LOT of time if you download files that were not transferred in
binary mode.
Third, issue this command 'get <filename.ext>'.  This will instruct
the archive host to send <filename.ext> to your account.
 
The last thing you'll want to do is use the 'quit' command.  This
tells our machine you're no longer interested in ftping files, and would
like to go back to your command prompt.
 
Now, you'll need to download your files from your mainframe(sparc, whatever)
to your ST.  Usually you'll want to use either kermit or x- or y- or z-modem
protocals.  They're very reliable.  I'd be quite hesitant to try something
else.  Also, your machine and ST are usually unique to you.  This means
that I really can't help you with this part.  You could try asking, but
I'm going to promise anything.
 
Part 4: A Few Words on Net Ettiquette
 
Net Ettiquette is something that every net user should be aware of.
Relating to ftp, and our archive, it is essentially this:
 
1)  Try to keep ftp usage to an absolute minimum during business hours,
in our time zone.  That would be 9 am to 5 pm , EST.  This roughly means
upload or download one file or so and little else during these hours.  After
5pm, have a blast.  Go nuts.  We probably won't mind nearly as much.....
Otherwise, we will drive to your campus or place of work (even if you
live in Europe) and we'll kick youe butt.  Or, Jon will sing Prince
songs to you.  Whichever you'd like the least.
 
2)  If you have a question about some aspect of ftp service or some
other area of your computer, please ask around at your site first.  Don't
immediately fire off all of your questions to us.  I don't mind answering
questions about the archive, problems with logging in, or something
similar.  But I tend to get upset when people ask me questions like,
"Jeff, how come I can't get the fgrep command to work properly on
my sparc station...."
 
3) Please try to upload files that you know the archive doesn't have.  I
know it's not the greatest thing to do, but if you can find time to
download stuff, I think you can find time to return the favor and
upload things also.
 
 
If you have any reasonable questions, any comments or concerns, etc.
please mail them to me, weiner@atari.archive.umich.edu.
 
Thanks,
weiner
 
 
--
Jeff Weiner     weiner@terminator.cc.umich.edu       Jeff_Weiner@ub.cc.umich.edu
    Mail Dennis_Devine@ub.cc.umich.edu and ask if he'd like to be the pope
Atari.archive.umich.edu Caretaker||194M and climbin'|| "So like take off eh?"
 
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Date: 22 Apr 91 22:05:30 GMT
From:
 noao!asuvax!ukma!rex!samsung!caen!uwm.edu!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!timothyg@arizona.edu
 (Timothy Gallivan)
Subject: Ghostscript source and binaries uploaded to atari.archive
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
Hi,
 
I posted this message once, but it didn't seem to make it. Try two ...
 
Sources and binaries for ghostscript have been uploaded to atari.archive
(141.211.164.8). No screen support yet. DeskJet, LaserJet, and Epson
printers are supported, but only the DeskJet has been tested to any
extent. The file names are gsbin.zoo and gssrc.zoo. I expect that they
will show up in the gnustuff directory.
 
A warning about compiling sources is in order. I recompiled a couple of
source modules with different versions of the GNU libraries (I think
they are newer than the ones I have been using), and the deskjet driver
ceased to work properly. This is disturbing, but I don't have time to
track down the problem now. Maybe someone else will figure it out.
 
-Tim Gallivan
National Center for Supercomputing Applications
University of Illinois
timothyg@ncsa.uiuc.edu
 
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Date: 22 Apr 91 16:36:08 GMT
From:
 noao!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!sdd.hp.com!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!rpi!uupsi!rodan.
 acs.syr.edu!ggreenbe@arizona.edu (Gerald Greenberg)
Subject: Hard Disk "Gatekeeper"
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
In article <1991Apr20.040324.4494@ecst.csuchico.edu> ekrimen@ecst.csuchico.edu
 (Ed Krimen) writes:
>Check out HOSPITAL, AZT or AZTA, VKILL381 (Virus Killer 3.81).  These are
>virus checker programs, each are a little different in their functions.  I
>don't know about one that checks for general unauthorized access (other
>than for viruses), but there are ones that will lock out a user from
>         Ed Krimen  ...............................................
Are these the latest versions of these files? and are the
latest versions available at atari.archive?
--Gerry
 
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Date: 22 Apr 91 18:33:27 GMT
From:
 noao!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!usc!orion.oac.uci.edu!ucivax!jarthur!petunia!csuchico
 .edu!ekrimen@arizona.edu (Ed Krimen)
Subject: Hard Disk "Gatekeeper"
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
In article <1991Apr22.163608.531@rodan.acs.syr.edu> ggreenbe@rodan.acs.syr.edu
 (Gerald Greenberg) writes:
>In article <1991Apr20.040324.4494@ecst.csuchico.edu> ekrimen@ecst.csuchico.edu
 (Ed Krimen) writes:
>>Check out HOSPITAL, AZT or AZTA, VKILL381 (Virus Killer 3.81).  These are
>>virus checker programs, each are a little different in their functions.  I
>>don't know about one that checks for general unauthorized access (other
>>than for viruses), but there are ones that will lock out a user from
>>         Ed Krimen  ...............................................
>Are these the latest versions of these files? and are the
>latest versions available at atari.archive?
 
They are the lastest versions, as far as I know.  There was only one version
of AZT and HOSPITAL, and many versions of Virus Killer, but 3.81 is the
latest.  And yes, they are at atari.archive.
 
--
         Ed Krimen  ...............................................
   |||   Video Production Major, California State University, Chico
   |||   INTERNET: ekrimen@ecst.csuchico.edu  FREENET: al661
  / | \  SysOp, Fuji BBS: 916-894-1261        FIDONET: 1:119/4.0
 
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Date: 22 Apr 91 16:39:57 GMT
From:
 noao!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!sun-barr!olivea!mintaka!bloom-beacon!eru!hagbard!suni
 c!mcsun!hp4nl!tuegate.tue.nl!gem!remco@arizona.edu (Remco Leliveld)
Subject: Harddisk high level format software
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
Has anybody out there software to format a harddisk for the
atari-st? The harddisk is connected with a C'T-harddisk interface.
(C'T is the fine german magazine that had an article about connecting
a harddisk to the st with a simple XT-interface card)
 
The harddisk is connected to the DMA-port via an interface and a
OMTI5527 controller. The harddisk is a Seagate ST238R (30 Mb).
 
The harddisk is already low-level formatted with the software from
the C'T magazine, but there is no high-level format software on that
disk. Who has build the same interface or has software to do the
high-level format?
 
P.S.: Please respond by news (first).
 
                                        Remco Leliveld.
                                        remco@gem.stack.urc.tue.nl
 
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Date: 22 Apr 91 19:31:17 GMT
From:
 noao!asuvax!ukma!widener!netnews.upenn.edu!wharton.upenn.edu!zeibari@arizona.ed
 u
Subject: hard drive project.
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
Hello Netland,
        My friend just gave me a ST-251 hard disk.  I have no cables
        for it, no controller, no power supply, or case.  Could someone
        please tell me what type of controller, power supply and the
        other things needed to attach this thing to my ST. It will
        be my first Hard disk on my ST.  Also can you provide the
        name and phone number of a supplier so I can purchase the
        equipment I need.  I have a 1040ST with TOS 1.2. I will also
        need to get some software so I can format and control the thing.
        I know stuff like this has been posted before but I skipped it
        because I couldn't afford a hard disk.  Please e-mail me
        or post the information.  Thanks in advance!!!!!
 
Greg.
 
email:  zeibari@wharton.upenn.edu
///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
INTERNET: zeibari@wharton.upenn.edu
school = Temple University
work   = University of Pennsylvania
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Date: 22 Apr 91 20:09:28 GMT
From:
 noao!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!sun-barr!olivea!samsung!sdd.hp.com!wuarchive!uwm.edu!
 bionet!agate!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!ysub!psuvm!jjl101@arizona.edu (J.J. Lehett)
Subject: LIFE3.LZH
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
   I think you are having the exact same problem as me!  Symptoms are the same.
Get a newer copy of LHarc.  For some reason the files do not like CR's and LF's
if unpacked with the older version.  I think you will find this should solve
all your problems!  :)
 
 
*************************************************************************
*     J.J.      *  Internet: JJL101@PSUVM.PSU.EDU  *     Penn State     *
*               *                                  *     Center for     *
*  John Lehett  *  Bitnet:   JJL101@PSUVM          * Academic Computing *
*************************************************************************
*    Atari ST's!, Computational Mathematics, Diplomacy, Synths + Midi   *
*************************************************************************
 
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Date: 22 Apr 91 17:22:43 GMT
From: unhd.unh.edu!oz!pyr579@uunet.uu.net (Technoid)
Subject: LIFE3.LZH
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
Hello,
 
        I just got a hold of LIFE3.LZH from atari.archive and was immediately
impressed by the editing allowed in the universe. It is easy to use, the left
button creates a cell, the right kill a cell. But when I went to load
pre-created universes which were lzhed within the LIFE3.LZH, the program
responded that the files were too small to be universe files, WHAT? These were
included as universes. Then I tried to load pre-created patterns such as
glider-guns and chesire cat ( the classics ) and they also didn't work. The
program claimed to be loading them but nothing was displayed. There is a
feature in the menu to show pattern file information. I check out chesire cat
with this, and it claimed the file to be in ABSOLUTE format. I went out to
GEM and checked it, it was in PICTURE format. This program has a lot of
problems, you can't do half the stuff it says it can do. Who ever wrote it,
you have a good idea but an obviously lacking implementation, if it were
fixed it would be an excellent version of LIFE, but as it stands, it isn't
too impressive.
 
Stephan
 
--
\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/
  pyr579@oz.plymouth.edu      Stephan R. Cleaves
/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
 
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Date: 22 Apr 91 15:33:23 GMT
From:
 noao!asuvax!ukma!psuvax1!wuarchive!sdd.hp.com!caen!ox.com!math.fu-berlin.de!fau
 ern!faui43.informatik.uni-erlangen.de!csbrod@arizona.edu (Claus Brod)
Subject: Megafile 60 noisy startup/ shutdown
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
hvaalde@cs.vu.nl (Aalderen van Harold) writes:
 
>Do all megafile 60 drives have autopark? I own one and never noticed it
>I use the ship program every time I shut down my computer
 
If the drive used in your MF60 is a Seagate ST277R, you don't need
the ship program anymore. The ST238R used in the Megafile 30 doesn't
autopark. You can find out the exact type of the drive used by
looking at the back of the Megafile 30 which should bear a label
with 'SEA6065' or something like that if it is a Seagate drive.
 
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Claus Brod, Am Felsenkeller 2,                  Things. Take. Time.
D-8772 Marktheidenfeld, West Germany            (Piet Hein)
csbrod@medusa.informatik.uni-erlangen.de
Claus Brod@wue.maus.de
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Date: 22 Apr 91 14:57:23 GMT
From: noao!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!usc!rpi!bu.edu!bucsf.bu.edu!harryk@arizona.edu
 (Harry Karayiannis)
Subject: new upload on atari.archive
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
        I just uploaded the file ATZENTA2.LZH (111824 bytes) on atari.archive
 
        It's my phone/address catalog + calendar program....SHAREWARE
 
 
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      ||   |#   ||                              Harry Karayiannis
     |#|  ||#|  |#|
     |#|  ||#|  |#|                             Boston University
    |##|  ||#|  |##|                            Computer Scince Dpt.
    ||#|  ||#|  ||#|
   ////   ||||   \\\\                           Internet:
 /////    ||||    \\\\\                                 harryk@bucsf.bu.edu
///// ATARI ST     \\\\\                                CSCRZCC@BUACCA.bu.edu
 
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Date: 22 Apr 91 16:48:47 GMT
From:
 noao!asuvax!ukma!rex!samsung!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!emory!hubcap!ncrcae!ricks@ari
 zona.edu (Rick Silverstein)
Subject: Other FTL games?
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
Does FTL produce any other games similar to the quality of Dungeon Master
and Chaos Strikes Back?
 
Rick Silverstein
 
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Date: 22 Apr 91 19:26:14 GMT
From:
 noao!asuvax!ukma!rex!samsung!umich!terminator!terminator.cc.umich.edu!weiner@ar
 izona.edu (Jeff Weiner)
Subject: Uploading to atari.archive & comp.{binaries,sources}.atari.st
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
                Uploading to Atari.archive.umich.edu
                                  and
             Posting to comp.{binaries,sources}.atari.st
                By Jeff Weiner, Atari.archive Guardian
 
 
How to upload to atari.archive.umich.edu:
 
There are two main ways to upload to the archive: FTP or mail
 
1: FTP - This is the preferred method, as it doesn't clog my mailbox with
   megs and megs of stuff, not to mention it's a bit easier for you too.
   Logon to the archive as usual, then issue the following commands
 
   cd 
   type binary
   put filename.ext
   mail weiner@atari.archive.umich.edu .... "Hey Jeff, I just uploaded this..."
 
   This last step is very important.  As we're now integrating the
   index with text and the ls -lR listing, descriptions and an address to
   send questions to are key.
 
Ed Krimen, ekrimen@ecst.csuchico.edu, adds this:
 
For those that may not know, may I add that, for aesthetic effects,
if you enter "hash," before you "put filename.ext" or "get
filename.ext," the ftp program will display a # for every 1024 bytes
sent or received.  Actually, when you 'put' a file, it will display
bunch of # at once.  Moreover, if you enter "bell," it will sound your
system bell when a function has completed.  Finally, you can send and
receive a list of files using the "mput" and "mget" commands,
respectively, with a list of the files after the command.
 
 
2: MAIL - This is a bit slower for you and for me, but is still very effective.
   Simply uuencode the file, (please split it into parts 
   and mail the result to weiner@atari.archive.umich.edu.  Please name
   the parts in the subject line.  This is really helpfull as the parts
   usually don't arrive in the proper sequence. Also, please include a
   message labeled file transmission, containing a short description of
   the file, etc.  Shar files are also acceptable, but I prefer the uuencoded.
 
 
And for those of you who would like to see your binaries and sources appear
in comp.{binaries,sources}.atari.st, the following is taken from Steve
Grimm's Introduction to Binaries and Sources:
 
Subject: Submitting binaries for publication
 
Items intended for posting or queries and problem notes should be sent to
atari-binaries@panarthea.ebay.sun.com. If you are on a UUCP-only site, you
can send them to {backbone}!sun!ebay!panarthea!atari-binaries.
 
If you're in Europe, you can send binaries to the European submoderator,
Jan-Hinrich Fessel, at unido!atari-binaries (or, if you're a masochist,
atari-binaries@unido.informatik.uni-dortmund.de.)  He will test them and
forward them to me.  Submitting to him saves net bandwidth, so it's
encouraged.
 
If you want verification of arrival, so say in a cover note, or at the
beginning of your submission, if it is small.  I try to verify that a
program works, and if I can't get it to work, I may hold up posting it
for a couple of days.  Please note that, except in rare cases, software
without documentation will not be published. The backlog from receipt
to posting varies from one to four weeks depending mostly on the set
of submissions currently in my queue.
 
If you are submitting both sources and binaries, PLEASE send the two
separately.  If I have to separate your sources from your binaries by
hand, your submission will most likely sit on the back burner for a
while.
 
Also, as of volume 8, I will only accept binaries packed with an archiver
for which source code is widely available.  For the time being, this pretty
much means arc, zoo, and lharc.  If you want to use a nifty new archiver,
make the source code available to the public (posting to comp.sources.atari.st
is fine.)  I reserve the right to repack binaries with another archiver if
the other archiver saves a significant amount of space, or has other
advantages.
 
If you're submitting a demo of a commercial program, or a shareware program,
please keep the amount of advertising to an absolute minimum.  The net
gods become angry when people try to use the net as a free advertising
medium, and I'd like to keep comp.binaries.atari.st out of trouble.  If
you want to solicit orders, do it in a README file or an About... dialog
box, not in a message that comes up every time the user does something.
In other words, treat the net like a PBS station (apologies to those
outside the US.)  I will not accept programs which I feel are excessively
commercial.  I'm aware that commercial demos and shareware are often very
useful (to the users on the net,) which is why I allow them at all.
 
 
 
Subject: Submitting source for publication
 
Items intended for posting or queries and problem notes should be sent to
atari-sources@panarthea.ebay.sun.com. If you are on a UUCP-only site, you
can send them to sun!ebay!panarthea!atari-sources.  In Europe, send your
submissions to Jan-Hinrich Fessel, the European submoderator of the group,
at unido!atari-sources (or, if you're a masochist, atari-sources@unido.
informatik.uni-dortmund.de.)
 
If you want verification of arrival, so say in a cover note, or at the
beginning of your submission, if it is small.  I try to verify that a
program works, and if I can't get it to work, I may hold up posting it
for a couple of days.  Please note that, except in rare cases, source
without documentation will not be published. The backlog from receipt
to posting varies from one to four weeks depending mostly on the set
of submissions currently in my queue.
 
I prefer that you submit sources and binaries separately, as it's a
pain to separate them, and such submissions are invariably placed on
the back burner.  Sources should be submitted in the same format as
binaries -- uuencoded arc, zoo, or lzh files.  Please use Pierre Dumas'
"uue" program if possible, as it can correct some common transmission
errors.  Split long submissions up into reasonable (less than 50K)
chunks.  "uue" will do this for you, if you use "uue -700 file" to
encode.
 
Please inform me of any special system requirements, and what development
environment was used, so that I can properly test your submission and
label it when I post it.
 
--------------------
--
Jeff Weiner     weiner@terminator.cc.umich.edu       Jeff_Weiner@ub.cc.umich.edu
    Mail Dennis_Devine@ub.cc.umich.edu and ask if he'd like to be the pope
Atari.archive.umich.edu Caretaker||194M and climbin'|| "So like take off eh?"
 
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Date: 22 Apr 91 17:28:34 GMT
From:
 noao!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!wuarchive!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.
 edu!emory!gatech!prism!mailer.cc.fsu.edu!bind!boyd@arizona.edu (Mickey Boyd)
Subject: which demos?
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
In article <72002@eerie.acsu.Buffalo.EDU>, chu@acsu.buffalo.edu (john c chu)
 writes:
>Thinking about it, I realize that this is a ridiculous question, but
>just in case I'm wrong...
>
>Are there any demos on atari.archive.umich.edu that will run on a 512K
>ST with a monochrome monitor?
>
>(Upgrading hopefully will be in the works...)
>
>Please replay via E-mail. Thanks
>
 
I have a great mono demo from Germany, called stdemo.tos (I think).  Anyway,
it is a tos file.  I believe I got it from atari.archive.  If you cannot
find it there, email me and I will upload it (this one is a must have).  I
would not consider getting a color monitor "upgrading", unless you are
keeping your mono (the best of both worlds).  I used to only have a color,
and it was hell on my eyes for any kind of real work.
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