Info-Atari16 Digest         Thu, 29 Aug 91       Volume 91 : Issue 456
 
Today's Topics:
                    **** KALAMUS INFO ***********
                Address for 3K-Computer Bild (2 msgs)
                    Any Turrican cheats out there?
                       ARC.PRG source for UNIX
                            C++ compiler.
        Does anyone know about an American Text Editor called
                          GEM bindings for C
       Is there a good logic circuit simulator out for the ST?
                        LDW Power, any users?
                            Reflex/Spectre
                    Star NL10/LC10 printer drivers
                      stuck mouse on application
                        TeX -- uhhg! (2 msgs)
                               TOS 1.62
                          TOS 1.62 addendum
          Tos 2.0x coming to an STf(m) near you... (2 msgs)
                               TT-UNIX
                         Virgin Mastertronic
                    WANTED: Atari Mega ST console
 
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Date: 29 Aug 91 00:53:16 GMT
From:
 noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-stat
 e.edu!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!ysub!psuvm!cunyvm!jokhc@arizona.edu (Joshua
 Kronengold)
Subject: **** KALAMUS INFO ***********
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
you mean Calamus, Don't you?  Really nice desktop publisher, built in outline
fonts, mono only, no gdos needed, etc.
 
If you mean't Kalamus(whatever that is) so sorry to waste your time.
 
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Date: 29 Aug 91 05:14:34 GMT
From: fernwood!portal!cup.portal.com!Bob_BobR_Retelle@uunet.uu.net
Subject: Address for 3K-Computer Bild
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
Can anyone give me the address in Germany of 3K-Computer Bild..?
 
I think they're also known as 3K-Computer Techink.
 
They have a new Epson color scanner package for the ST that looks
VERY interesting, but the article about it didn't give any info
about how to contact them...
 
Thanks..!
 
BobR
 
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Date: 29 Aug 91 09:45:24 GMT
From: mcsun!news.funet.fi!hydra!kreeta!luoto@uunet.uu.net (Markku Luoto)
Subject: Address for 3K-Computer Bild
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
if anybody knows about the addres / S/H-ware related to this thing...
please tell us what's this all about ???
 
 
for: I WANT A COLOUR SCANNER TOO !!!
 
 
 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
>>>>>>   " I'm completely operational & all my cicuits are functioning  <<<<<<
>>>>>>      correctly...correc...corr...co...-! " : HAl9000             <<<<<<
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
 
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Date: 28 Aug 91 15:51:52 GMT
From:
 noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!sdd.hp.com!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!rpi!psinntp!u
 upsi!stiatl!iam@arizona.edu (Ian Mercado)
Subject: Any Turrican cheats out there?
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
Was wanting to know if there exist any cheats for Turrican out there?
Wow is that game hard!!  (But FUN, too!)
 
Ian
--
--------   ----   ----   --    |   Ian Mercado: iam@stiatl.salestech.com      |
   --     -    -  -----  --    |                emory!stiatl!iam              |
   --    -------- --  -----    |                                              |
-------- --    -- --   ----    |   "Can't keep my mind from the circling sky" |
 
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Date: 29 Aug 91 09:03:53 GMT
From: otter.hpl.hp.com!hpltoad!ghiggins!gjh@hplabs.hp.com (Graham Higgins)
Subject: ARC.PRG source for UNIX
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
> salue ataris,
>       i have some interesting sources in arc format on my UNIX computer,
>       how can i extract files, without going on little atari-st ?
>        ,
> bye rene
 
By using a Eunuchs-hosted arc:
 
+ ARC - Archive utility, Version 5.21, created on 04/22/87 at 15:05:21
+ Usage: arc {amufdxerplvtc}[biswnoq][g<password>] <archive> [<filename> . . .]
+ Where:   a   = add files to archive
+          m   = move files to archive
+          u   = update files in archive
+          f   = freshen files in archive
+          d   = delete files from archive
+          x,e = extract files from archive
+          r   = run files from archive
+          p   = copy files from archive to standard output
+          l   = list files in archive
+          v   = verbose listing of files in archive
+          t   = test archive integrity
+          c   = convert entry to new packing method
+          b   = retain backup copy of archive
+          i   = suppress image mode (translate EOL)
+          s   = suppress compression (store only)
+          w   = suppress warning messages
+          n   = suppress notes and comments
+          o   = overwrite existing files when extracting
+          q   = squash instead of crunching
+          g   = Encrypt/decrypt archive entry
+
+ Adapted from MSDOS by Howard Chu
 
Email me if you can't find the Eunuchs sources.
 
Graham Higgins
---- My opinions above are exactly that: my own, and opinions.-----
 
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Date: Thu, 29 Aug 91 16:50:38 BST
From: pickerig@everest (Mr. G. Pickering)
Subject: C++ compiler.
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
Hi,
 
Does anyone know of a C++ compiler/translater for the Atari ST? If so
do you have an address? A UK address would be helpful.
 
Guy.
 
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Date: Thu, 29 AUG 91 14:25:37 +0100
From: YF_LI@vax.acs.open.ac.uk
Subject: Does anyone know about an American Text Editor called
To: Info-Atari16 <@nsfnet-relay.ac.uk:Info-Atari16@NAUCSE.CSE.NAU.edu>
 
Sudden View.  Any information would be much appreciated.  A review
would be perfection.
 
Thanks in advance
 
Yan
 
*****************************************************************************
        >>>> My Opinions are my own and not of my organisation <<<<
*****************************************************************************
 
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Date: 29 Aug 91 14:17:52 GMT
From: mcsun!ukc!stl!siesoft!usenet@uunet.uu.net (Arshad Mahmood)
Subject: GEM bindings for C
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
Will the gemfast12 (volume5) gem bindings work with Sozobon C.
 
Please reply by email. Thanks in advance.
 
=============================================================================
Arshad Mahmood                               |  Tel   : 0344 850987
Siemens Nixdorf Information Systems Limited  |  Fax   : 0344 850096
Siemens Nixdorf House                        |  email : arshad@siesoft.co.uk
Oldbury, Bracknell
Berkshire RG12 4FZ
England.
 
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Date: 28 Aug 91 22:08:19 GMT
From:
 noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uwm.edu!ux1.cso.
 uiuc.edu!usenet@arizona.edu (J. Scott Hofmann)
Subject: Is there a good logic circuit simulator out for the ST?
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
     I'm looking for a good logic-circuit simulator (A circuit built of
logic gates), for use in a class in elementary machine architecture and
design. Is there anything (that will run on a 1-meg 520ST with monochrome
moniter) that I can ftp? Thanks,
 
                                              Scott
--
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
J. Scott Hofmann                      | "Yes, I am competely loopy."
s-hofmann@uiuc.edu                    |       -John Cleese
aka Diode                             | Epoch development team, UIUC
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Date: 28 Aug 91 17:54:10 GMT
From: noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!sdd.hp.com!hp-pcd!hplsla!andyc@arizona.edu
 (Andy Cassino)
Subject: LDW Power, any users?
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
gaudreau@juggler.East.Sun.COM asks about LDW Power:
 
Subject asks all.  Anybody using it?  How do you like it.
How does it compare with Lettuce 1-2-3?
 
----------
 
I use it almost daily. It works and the "GEM"-ified user interface is nice,
but you can still run it from the keyboard just like 123. I have translated
worksheets between LDW and 123 in both directions with little to no trouble.
The latest LDW version (2.0 I think) is supposed to have improved graphics
(much needed IMHO), 123 Release 2 macro compatibility, and no glitches in
transferring worksheets. (I'm sending for my upgrade RSN).
 
Just a satisfied user,
 
    %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
    % Andy Cassino                                       %
    % Hewlett-Packard - Lake Stevens Instrument Division %
    %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
 
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Date: Thu, 29 Aug 91   9:31
From: WOODALLP%VAX1.COMPUTER-CENTRE.BIRMINGHAM.AC.UK@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU
Subject: Reflex/Spectre
To: INFO-ATARI16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
It was recently asked which graphics boards will work with Spectre on the ST,
I am happy to confirm that the Reflex 1024 board from Titan Designs here in
England works perfectly. I am currently driving a bog standard atari mono
sm124 at 1024x600 NON INTERLACED with spectre and it is pin sharp with
no flicker, for those flicker addicts Interlaced modes of 1024x960 and
1024x800 are available, it also drives a variety of other monitors such
as 21 inch and 19 inch, even portrait, however the latter causes a slight
problem with spectre as it seems to assume that the screen is as wide
as the video ram and 800x1024 is used for the portrait mode (the video ram
is 1024x1024). I think however that dave S's mod to make spectre work with
Overscan should cure this, a 800x600 mode is also available on the sm124
though this suffers from the same problem.
 
The board costs 250 pound sterling plus tax and works with megas, however
an STE fitting kit is also available.
 
They can be obtained from:
 
Titan Designs Ltd
Institute of Research and Development
University of Birmingham
Birmingham
England
 
+44 21 415 4155
 
I have nothing to do with this firm other than they have just moved to
my university science park.
 
Phil Woodall
Elec Eng PhD Student
University of Birmingham
 
WOODALLP@UK.AC.BHAM.VAX1
 
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Date: 29 Aug 91 14:14:44 GMT
From: mcsun!ukc!stl!siesoft!usenet@uunet.uu.net (Arshad Mahmood)
Subject: Star NL10/LC10 printer drivers
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
Will the Star NL10 printer drivers work with Star LC10 printer. This is for
First Word and St Writer Elite WP.
 
Thanks in advance.
 
Please reply by email.
 
==============================================================================
Arshad Mahmood                               |  Tel   : 0344 850987
Siemens Nixdorf Information Systems Limited  |  Fax   : 0344 850096
Siemens Nixdorf House                        |  email : arshad@siesoft.co.uk
Oldbury, Bracknell
Berkshire RG12 4FZ
England.
 
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Date: 29 Aug 91 14:39:06 GMT
From: mcsun!ukc!cf-cm!news@uunet.uu.net
Subject: stuck mouse on application
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
Hi,
 
I've got a program that runs fine on a STFM.
 
However, I've got an STE. The program works fine except for one problem.
The mouse does not work. once the program is fired up the pointer is stuck on
the screen. you can move the mouse using the cursor control keys from the
keyboard. Doing this all utilities seem fine but are laborious to use since
this method of mouse control is very slow.
 
Is this is common problem and if so is there a cure or patch available?
 
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Date: 29 Aug 91 08:26:50 GMT
From: timbuk.cray.com!hemlock.cray.com!marc@uunet.uu.net (Marc Bouron)
Subject: TeX -- uhhg!
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
In article <1991Aug29.001817.22800@netcom.COM>, yonder@netcom.COM (Christopher
 Russell) writes:
> Well, I spent several days upgrading my ST to 2.5M so I could run some
> more software.. Especially would like to get TeX running.  Well, after
> several days, I've managed to create *.dvi files, but I haven't got
> any of the dvi2* programs working.  Basically because I am hoping that
> I can get the fonts directory setup with 99e99 hours of work!!  I have
> got the dvifnts1.zoo and dvifnts2.zoo files from atari.archive, which
> have the directories already setup.  Unfortuantely, it doesn't seem to
> want to build the directories correctly.  In the readme file, it says
> to do zoo -x// dvifnt?.zoo.  Hmm.. -x isn't valid for zoo!  And what
> are those slashes all about?  What version of zoo is this?
 
-x isn't valid for zoo when it gets folded to uppercase!  This is what the Atari
.TTP dialog will do.  You can get around this by running from a CLI, or by
 using
a third-party desktop replacement, which isn't so neanderthal.
 
Cheers,
 
[M][a][r][c]
 
 
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Date: 29 Aug 91 10:55:22 GMT
From: mcsun!unido!laura!tommy!klute@uunet.uu.net (Rainer Klute)
Subject: TeX -- uhhg!
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
In article <1991Aug29.032650.2411@hemlock.cray.com>, marc@hemlock.cray.com
(Marc Bouron) writes:
|> > ... In the readme file, it says
|> > to do zoo -x// dvifnt?.zoo.  Hmm.. -x isn't valid for zoo!  And what
|> > are those slashes all about?  What version of zoo is this?
|>
|> -x isn't valid for zoo when it gets folded to uppercase!
 
Sorry, wrong answer. "-x//" is also not valid when not folded to uppercase.
Use "x//" instead.
 
--
  Dipl.-Inform. Rainer Klute      klute@irb.informatik.uni-dortmund.de
  Univ. Dortmund, IRB             klute@unido.bitnet
  Postfach 500500         |)|/    Tel.: +49 231 755-4663
D-4600 Dortmund 50        |\|\    Fax : +49 231 755-2386
 
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Date: Thu, 29 AUG 91 12:06:51 +0100
From: YF_LI@vax.acs.open.ac.uk
Subject: TOS 1.62
To: Info-Atari16 <@nsfnet-relay.ac.uk:Info-Atari16@NAUCSE.CSE.NAU.edu>
 
Hi,
 
this is the first time I've really mailed this area, but I have been
reading it for a long time.
 
I just upgraded from an Old STM, 2.5M, twin 1M drives, to a STe 4Mb.
Interestingly it came with TOS1.6;  I was expecting a TOS1.62 machine.
So I rang the supplier, BEST PRICES (UK), and a really great guy
there called Bob sorted me out; even giving me the number for Atari UK.
I sent the machine back on Tuesday (by courier), and I got it back
on Thursday (at no further expense after sending); is that service or what ?
 
It also turns out I now have a TOS1.62 machine.  I was told by Bob that
Atari UK are shipping a mixture of 1.6 and 1.62 machines to suppliers;  But if
a customer specifically requested a 1.62 machine from BEST PRICES company they
would get it; I'd assumed by default, and there lay my mistake.
 
I Don't work them, I'm a satisfied customer.  Hey doesn't Lars-Erik's DOUBLE
screen emulator work great !!!   I've sent my registration fee already.
 
I haven't had time to tinker yet, I'm at work typing this message, but
the most obvious fix is no MEDIUM/LOW rez save bug; yippe another auto
program I can remove from the Hard Disk autofolder.
 
If I notice any new features/bugs I'll try to post them, but since
I don't do much low level stuff with my Atari - sorry I'm a plain vanilla
user - I may not notice any small yet significant changes in the OS;
I wonder if they fixed the 40 Folder, Pool compaction bug ?  One can
hope, surely ????  OK I take it back.
 
Thanks for reading.
 
Yan
 
********************************************************************************
 
         >>>>ALL OPINIONS ARE MINE - AND NOT MY ORGANISATIONS<<<<
 
********************************************************************************
 
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Date: Thu, 29 AUG 91 13:39:03 +0100
From: YF_LI@vax.acs.open.ac.uk
Subject: TOS 1.62 addendum
To: Info-Atari16 <@nsfnet-relay.ac.uk:Info-Atari16@NAUCSE.CSE.NAU.edu>
 
I just managed to slip in an hour of time to try the new machine.
Well, it definitely is TOS1.62; Interestingly the ROM Date is 1-1-90!
 
STEFIX has finally been removed from my AUTO folder.  In addition
POOLFIX3 no longer runs, claiming that installation is no longer required
in this version of TOS; is this the truth or simply a failure in
POOLFIX3 to recognise 1.62 ?  I hope its true.  Also Karsten I's
VDIFIX doesn't run either, with a patch to TOS2.xx & 3.xx unneccessary
message; anyone know if this is true ?
 
The big loss in my AUTO folder that is currently driving me mad is
PINHEAD 1.8.  It just won't run, claiming incompatible TOS.  Anyone
know a mail address for Codehead, were I can register and get a new version,
please.  The STe's are much faster at clearing memory than the old STs
but compared to PINHEAD, they pale into comparison.
 
I did quick tests on Timeworks DTP, Easy Draw II and there appears to be no
problems.
 
Anyway, many thanks in advance if you can help.
 
Yan
 
Nb:- Dear Lars, their's an interesting bug in your MAPMEM program,
it can't seem to print the number TOS 1.62 number correctly, printing a AE type
character instead of 62.  Sorry if this is deliberate.
 
********************************************************************************
             >>>>Opinions reflect on me, not on my organisation<<<<
********************************************************************************
 
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Date: 28 Aug 91 15:26:33 GMT
From: fernwood!portal!atari!kbad@uunet.uu.net (Ken Badertscher)
Subject: Tos 2.0x coming to an STf(m) near you...
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
neil@cs.hw.ac.uk (Neil Forsyth) writes:
 
|Well the word is that there is some hardware hacking going on too. We'll know
|more next week hopefully when they let the cat out of the bag.
 
Yep, as soon as I heard about the upgrade board shown in Dusseldorf,
I started choking on that last post... and lemme tell you, regurgitated
Usenet posts are none too tasty. :)
 
Looks like ST & Mega owners win after all... with this slick little
upgrade, you *will* be able to plug TOS 2.0x ROMs into those machines.
The upgrade is reportedly not for the faint of heart, though... it does
involve running some wires and burning your fingers with a soldering iron.
 
 
|What is your opinion of patched versions of TOS 2.0x? I think we already know.
 
'Nuff said.
 
--
   |||   Ken Badertscher  (ames!atari!kbad)
   |||   Atari Corp. System Software Engine
  / | \  #include <disclaimer>
 
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Date: 29 Aug 91 15:35:41 GMT
From:
 noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-
 state.edu!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!cleveland.Freenet.Edu!aa399@arizona.edu (Len
 Stys)
Subject: Tos 2.0x coming to an STf(m) near you...
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
In a previous article, kbad@atari.UUCP (Ken Badertscher) says:
 
>neil@cs.hw.ac.uk (Neil Forsyth) writes:
>
>|Well the word is that there is some hardware hacking going on too. We'll know
>|more next week hopefully when they let the cat out of the bag.
>
>Yep, as soon as I heard about the upgrade board shown in Dusseldorf,
>I started choking on that last post... and lemme tell you, regurgitated
>Usenet posts are none too tasty. :)
>
>Looks like ST & Mega owners win after all... with this slick little
>upgrade, you *will* be able to plug TOS 2.0x ROMs into those machines.
>The upgrade is reportedly not for the faint of heart, though... it does
>involve running some wires and burning your fingers with a soldering iron.
 
Glad to hear the good news!
 
Though, a couple of questions...
 
Was their any word on the price of the upgrade board for the ROMs?
 
How come I have a funny feeling that it will cost more than its worth.
 
And will the upgrade board for the TOS only or will it allow you to
get STereo sound, hardware scrolling, more colors, and a blitter?
 
Too bad someone couldn't think of an affordable way to get all of these
things added to the STs...
 
>
>
>
 
--
 
 
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Date: 27 Aug 91 22:24:00 GMT
From:
 noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sol.ctr.columbia
 .edu!iraun1.ira.uka.de!smurf.sub.org!artcom0!hb.maus.de!m.maus.de!Martin_Gaeckl
 er@arizona.edu (Martin Gaeckler)
Subject: TT-UNIX
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
>       WHAT's the current status of UNIX for TT ?
 
Atari said: Available in 3 or 4 weeks
 
>       If so, what's the price in Ger. and in U.S., and
>       where to get it ???
 
Developer's machine 16 MB RAM, 320 MB Harddisk will cost about DM 10000.--
 
Martin
 
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Date: 29 Aug 91 13:52:21 GMT
From: sae!malay@uunet.uu.net (Bob Malay)
Subject: Virgin Mastertronic
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
Does anybody out there have the mailing address for this company?? I may
have not have the name correctly, but I thought it was Virgin Mastertronic.
I believe they are located in the UK??
 
Bob Malay
 
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Date: 29 Aug 91 03:10:29 GMT
From:
 noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!usc!wupost!udel!haven.umd.edu!umbc3.umbc.edu!umbc5
 .umbc.edu!chuck@arizona.edu (Chuck Rickard)
Subject: WANTED: Atari Mega ST console
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
Anyone selling a Mega ST (2 or 4)?  If so, send me mail with your price
and any other pertinent info.
 
Thanks!
 
--
 
Chuck Rickard
(chuck@umbc5.umbc.edu)
 
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