Info-Atari16 Digest         Wed, 29 May 91       Volume 91 : Issue 300
 
Today's Topics:
           :-)   (was: Re: Mega STe Question (or Problems))
                   DEALER & MAIL ORDER HOUSE LIST!!
                           DIY RAM upgrade
                     Info-Atari16 Digest V91 #297
                        Mega STe and Hard Disk
                        Mega STe applications
                   Mega STe Question (or Problems)
                       Neodesk3.0x Update ????
            only_ste.lzh (was Re: ST User Virus!) (2 msgs)
                    RS-232 Port READ/WRITE status
                  Strange Tempus / Mupfel / AES bug
                            ST User Virus!
                TRANSFERRING FILE TO & FROM PORTFOLIO
                               TT users
 
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Date: 29 May 91 10:03:38 GMT
From: mcsun!cernvax!chx400!urz.unibas.ch!hofer@uunet.uu.net (Remo Hofer)
Subject: :-)   (was: Re: Mega STe Question (or Problems))
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
In article <1991May28.114007.22430@informatik.uni-erlangen.de>,
csbrod@immd4.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Claus Brod) writes:
>
> ekrimen@ecst.csuchico.edu (Ed Krimen) writes:
>>Jerry Pournelle in his 'review' in Byte also commented on this delay.  He
>>made it seem like his TT waited for several minutes however.
>
> Which sheds some light on the way he likes to test gadgets. He would only
> have to press any key...
 
But where is any key located on your keyboard? I couldn't find it on mine. :-)
Remo Hofer
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Date: 29 May 91 03:39:06 GMT
From:
 noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!mips!pacbell.com!iggy.GW.Vitalink.COM!wide
 ner!netnews.upenn.edu!wharton.upenn.edu!zeibari@arizona.edu
Subject: DEALER & MAIL ORDER HOUSE LIST!!
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
Hello All,
 
This is the list of dealers I have received so far.
They are in NO PARTICULAR ORDER, I just append incoming mail
to the end of this document. I did edit some of your mail messages
to keep it short, you can ask the companies questions as to
what they offer exactly. I am not responsible for the accuracy of the
information listed below and I am not in anyway affiliated with any of
the companies.  Hope this helps everyone.
 
p.s. If you object to this posting, please flame me either on the net or
     thru email, I would like any feedback you give me (positive | negative ;-)
 
 
AtariVille in San Antonio, TX.  phone: (512)736-1405.
hardware and software
 
Goldleaf Publishing: (415) 257-3510
software
 
MicroTyme: 1-800-255-5835
hardware,software,repairs
 
Toad Computers: (301) 544-6943
hardware,repairs
 
"The Byte Track", 10971-101 St, Edmonton, Alberta, Canada T5H 2S9
        1-800-667-2983 (1-800-MOR BYTE)
        (403)-424-0066, FAX: (403)-421-4039
Hardware - mainly hard drives, SCSI units - good prices
           other peripherals (mice, modems, other goodies)
 
IB Computers
2511B West 11th Ave.
Eugene, OR 97402
(503)-485-1424
hard/software, some 8bit support as well.
 
B+C Computervisions
3257 Kifer Road
Santa Clara, CA 95051
800-969-8810
(408) 749-1003
hardware,software
 
D&P Computer
800-535-4290
hardware,software
 
Micro Computer Depot
800-845-3070
hardware,repairs
 
The Electronic Clinic
301-656-7983
hardware,software,repairs
 
CompuWare
908-290-2242
hardware,software,repairs
 
American Techna-Vision
800-551-9995
8-bit hardware,software,repairs
 
Sideline Software
800-888-9273
software
 
The ST Connection
303-423-6805
PD/Shareware
 
Rising Star Computers
800-252-2787
hardware,software
 
Best Electronics
408-243-6950
parts for ST/8-bits
 
Computability
(800) 558-0003
hardware,software
 
Brad Roltgen software, 1St Stop
numbers were not given
hardware,software
 
L&Y Electronics
13644C Jefferson davis Highway
Woodbridge, VA  22191
(703) 643-1729
Great service from them on my Mega won me over, and they have decent prices
(competitive with mail order)
hardware,software
 
Software House
Perinton Square Mall, Fairport, NY 14450, 716-223-7658
ST Hardware/Software storefront. Authorized Atari dealer. Authorized
Atari 8-bit & ST service.
 
ALP Micro systemes,
4535, ave. du Parc, Montreal, Quebec, H2V 4E4,Canada, tel.
514/848-0755.  As far as I know, they do not do any mail order
business.
 
I usually buy from Island Computer and Software in Farmingdale, NY
(also in Coram, NY).  Sorry, I don't have any other information on how
to reach them handy right now.  Call directory assistance (516 area
code) if you wanna look them up.  They are dealers, no mail order as
far as I know.  They carry Atari computers and software.  Also DOS and
Amiga.
 
Butler's Computer Service
206-942-9096 or 622-2559
Hardware,Software,Service
 
Cave Creek Computers
206-893-0933
Hardware,Software,Service
 
Xanth Corporation
206-643-9697
Hardware,Software,Service
 
Hello,
    I don't have the phone numbers handy, but two excellent dealers
reside in the Fort Worth/Dallas, TEXAS metroplex.  These are Computer
Discoveries of Dallas and MegaByte Computers.  Both are full service,
have a strong customer base.
 
RUN PC
524 W. Laurel #2
Fort Collins, CO80521
(303) 493-5565
M-Sat 10AM - 6 PM
hardware,software also Protfolio and Lynx.
 
RIO Computers
800-782-9110
hardware,software,repairs
 
ComputAbility
800-558-0003
hardware,software
 
Software Discounters of America
800-225-7638
software
 
San Jose Computer
800-726-8576
hardware,software
 
1st STOP computer systems
800-252-2787
hardware,software
 
Carter Graphics & computers
801-628-6111
Hardware,software
 
Computer Garden
800-456-5689
software
 
****************************************************************
Greg Zeibari
email:  zeibari@wharton.upenn.edu
school: Temple University
work:   University of Pennsylvania
disclaimer: If it's going to happen, it will happen on my shift.
****************************************************************
 
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Date: 28 May 91 11:46:47 GMT
From: mcsun!ukc!keele!nott-cs!lut.ac.uk!elmar@uunet.uu.net (Mohammad A. Rahin)
Subject: DIY RAM upgrade
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
Keywords: RAM, 2.5 Mega Byte, 520/1040 ST(FM)
 
In article <1991May27.132828.5352@lut.ac.uk> M.A.Rahin@lut.ac.uk (Mohammad A.
 Rahin) writes:
>I've uploaded a text file to atari.archive describing a DIY RAM upgrade
>procedure. This is  for upgrading the memory of 520/1040 ST(FM) to  2.5
>(or perhaps to 4) Mega Byte  using inexpensive 2x1MB SIPP modules. This
>article is written by Christopher Hicks.
>
>- Rahin
>
 
Forgot to specify the name of the file. The file name is 2_5ram.zoo and should
be placed in atari/misc and also for a limited time in atari/newitems directory.
Sorry for the mess-up.
 
- Rahin
 
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Date: 29 May 91 10:20:18 +0200
From: MULDER13%F2.NHL.NL@pucc.PRINCETON.EDU
Subject: Info-Atari16 Digest V91 #297
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
UNSUB Paul Henno Mulder
 
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Date: Wed, 29 May 1991 06:31:42 PDT
From: Sammy_Mesbah.XRCC@xerox.com
Subject: Mega STe and Hard Disk
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
This is the first time I've posted, so I hope this works.
 
 
I have a 1040STf with TOS 1.4 and an ICD Advantage+ with a Seagate
85M SCSI hard disk.  I am planning to buy a Mega 1 STe at the end of
the summer and upgrade it to 4 megs, but I have a few questions
that some of you may be able to help me with:
 
Is upgrading a Mega 1 STe as easy as plugging in new SIMMs?
 
ICD told me that the Mega STe DMA port is different from a standard
ST DMA port, ie. a different size connector.  They said they would
have an adapter cable by June.
 
This is OK in that I assume I will still be able to use my ICD board for the
hard drive but I'm wondering if I actually need it.  Does the Mega STe
already have a SCSI controller built in?  Since the Mega 2 and 4 STe have built
in hard drives, I assume there is a controller.  Does the Mega 1 STe have
this as well?  I was planning on a Mega 1 since I really do not want another
hard drive (85 megs is plenty) and the dealers say that the 2 and 4 must
come with a hard drive.
 
As well, does anyone know how easy it is to hook up a Multisync
monitor to the Mesga STe?  I can get a good deal on a .25mm dot
pitch multisync so I wonder if there is and adapter available.
 
Also, has anyone noticed any difference with 16 MHz or is the RAM
too slow to make it noticeable?
 
If this works out, anyone want to buy a 1040 STf w/ TOS 1.4 and a
mono and colour monitor?
 
 
Thanks in advance
Sam Mesbah
sammy_mesbah:xrcc@xerox.com  (I think)
 
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Date: 29 May 91 12:07:37 GMT
From: IFI.UIO.NO!larserio@ucbvax.berkeley.edu (LarsErikOsterud)
Subject: Mega STe applications
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
Exacly the same problem I had....
I know of LOTS of examples of MEGA STE's with this bad chips that causes the
monochrome diplay to wrap when you change screen adresse and causes static in
the DMA sound, but Atari Corp won't confirm this and tell me that this is
only a problem with my machine (but you are the 4th one I've heard about).
Replace the chip with a chip from an old STE (not the same number so you need
the print-layouts for both MEGA STE and STE to do this, the chip is called
GSTSHIFTER and has to do with both video and sound in the STE machines..)
I would again like a comment on this from Atari Corp.  You can't just ignore
this problem that applies to a great number og MEGA STE's !!!!!???
 
 Lars-Erik  /  ABK-BBS +47 2132659  /   ____ ______ ________________________
  Osterud  /  larserio@ifi.uio.no  /   /___    /            The norwegian ST
__________/ ______________________/   ____/   /   Klubben,  user association
 
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Date: 29 May 91 05:54:01 GMT
From: fs7.ece.cmu.edu!o.gp.cs.cmu.edu!redmond@sei.cmu.edu (Redmond English)
Subject: Mega STe Question (or Problems)
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
 >>As just a reminder, there exists KILLDRV which turns off that darn
 >>floppy disk light.  It was either posted to USENET or is available
 >>from atari.archive.  Both source and binaries should be available:
 >
 >KILLDRV will just turn out the LED and not the floppy motor, right?
 
 On my Ste, when I boot off the hard drive without a floppy, it's ONLY
 the floppy LED that stays on.  The motor goes off by itself.
 
                               Red/.
 
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Date: 29 May 91 08:55:40 GMT
From: mcsun!unido!opal!gmdtub!prosun!ralph@uunet.uu.net (Ralph Berg)
Subject: Neodesk3.0x Update ????
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
Hello Neodesker,
 
where I can get the Update for Neodesk3 to Neodesk3.0x?
Who knows about the main differences?
Is symbol count on the desktop (now 32) increased?
 
Thanks in advance
Ralph
 
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Ralph Berg, Reichenbergerstr.89,
D-1000 Berlin 36, West Germany         during day  030/25499151
German National Research Center for Computer Science, FIRST
ralph@prosun.first.gmd.de
----------------------------------------------------------------------
 
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Date: 29 May 91 10:00:03 GMT
From: mcsun!corton!laas!ralph@uunet.uu.net (Ralph P. Sobek)
Subject: only_ste.lzh (was Re: ST User Virus!)
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
In article <1991May28.202555.16251@lsuc.on.ca> jimomura@lsuc.on.ca (Jim Omura)
 writes:
|  This brings to mind that 1 of the things
|  I looked at from the Net recently was this "only_ste.lzh" sound
|  demo package.  Now this is a strange package with what seems to
|  be a whole disk compressed into an ".MSA" file which in turn was
|  LHARC'd.  I unpacked this kit just this morning.  When I unpacked
|  the disk I used the MSA.PRG auto-formatting command.  It seems to
|  me that this method of packaging might allow for transporting of
|  boot sector or other viruses.  Has anybody else unpacked this demo
|  kit recently?
 
I just unpacked this demo for friends last nite!  I don't have an STe
or MegaSTe, but I got 4 Mb and they were needed.
 
First off, I received only_ste.lzh through the News at work.
Unfortunately, only_ste.lzh is incompatible with MS-DOS compatible
floppy disks, since they're limited to 720 Kb.  As a reminder,
only_ste.lzh is 802661 bytes long.  What to do?  I used "split" on my
SPARC to chop the file in half.  Each half was put on a separate
floppy and taken home.
 
At home, I became worried about concatenating two binary file parts
together.  I then decided to run full blown GNU emacs (not mg, jove,
nor micro-emacs) with a 1 Mb RAM disk.  I then inserted into my emacs
buffer both halfs of the file and saved it to the RAM disk.  Of course
there was no more room to unpack the file.  It tested out okay.  Well,
I copied it to a floppy and extracted back to the RAM disk.  I then
ran MSA to create the demo floppy.   Ouffhh!!! ;-|
 
The first thing I did then was to run VKILLER on it.  It stated that
the floppy was executable, but no known virus was found!!  8-)
 
Did anyone have a much easier time of it?  I only hope that few items
of this sort travel through USENET or are uploaded to atari.archive.
Normally, large *.lzh or *.zoo can be split up differently since the
individual member files are less than 720 Kb.
--
Ralph P. Sobek                    Disclaimer: The above ruminations are my own.
ralph@laas.fr                              Addresses are ordered by importance.
ralph@laas.uucp, or ...!uunet!laas!ralph
If all else fails, try:                               sobek@eclair.Berkeley.EDU
===============================================================================
Proud owner of a Mega 4 ST.  Wishing it was a Mega STe!  :-|
 
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Date: 29 May 91 12:54:15 GMT
From: mcsun!inesc!unl!unl!spa@uunet.uu.net (Salvador Pinto Abreu)
Subject: only_ste.lzh (was Re: ST User Virus!)
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
on 29 May 91 10:00:03 GMT,
ralph@laas.fr (Ralph P. Sobek) said:
 
>                                                  I used "split" on my
> SPARC to chop the file in half.  Each half was put on a separate
> floppy and taken home.
 
> At home, I became worried about concatenating two binary file parts
> together.  I then decided to run full blown GNU emacs (not mg, jove,
> nor micro-emacs) with a 1 Mb RAM disk.  I then inserted into my emacs
> buffer both halfs of the file and saved it to the RAM disk.  Of course
> there was no more room to unpack the file.  It tested out okay.  Well,
> I copied it to a floppy and extracted back to the RAM disk.  I then
> ran MSA to create the demo floppy.   Ouffhh!!! ;-|
 
The exact procedure I followed was to run lharc on Unix (a DECstation
5000 unpacks LZH archives a *little* faster than an ST :-), split the
file in two, and then wrote the floppies. On the ST the easiest way I
found to do this was to `cat' the two parts (using GNU cat from
cs.uni-sb.de), a lot faster than creating a RAMdisk and using GNU
Emacs, I'd say...
 
> Did anyone have a much easier time of it?  I only hope that few items
> of this sort travel through USENET or are uploaded to atari.archive.
> Normally, large *.lzh or *.zoo can be split up differently since the
> individual member files are less than 720 Kb.
 
The thing might be to have a simple stand-alone SPLIT/JOIN program on
the ST. If I knew more about GEM I'd do it myself (maybe I'll give it
a try someday). By "simple" I mean one that does NOTHING but the
equivalent of Unix's split and cat, ie. no headers or CRC's.
 
Anyway, regarding the only_ste demo, I must confess it's absolutely
fabulous.
--
-- Salvador Pinto Abreu         spa@fct.unl.pt
                                Universidade Nova de Lisboa, PORTUGAL
 
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Date: 29 May 91 11:07:59 GMT
From:
 noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!sdd.hp.com!news.cs.indiana.edu!ariel.unm.edu!cs.um
 n.edu!uc!shamash!timbuk!marc@arizona.edu (Marc Bouron)
Subject: RS-232 Port READ/WRITE status
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
In article <16525@helios.TAMU.EDU>, n160ao@tamuts.tamu.edu (Mark Lehmann)
 writes:
> Curses
> ------
> Did anyone find a curses subroutine library for C on the Atari ST?
> I am looking for some type of terminfo or termcap.
 
There are two curses packages at atari.archive: one is a GNU version.
 
> Thanks.
> Mark Lehmann
> Senior - Texas A&M University
> IBM AIX Technical Support
>
> tamuts.tamu.edu!n160ao
>
> I am also interested if anyone found curses routines.
 
[M][a][r][c]
 
 
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Date: Wed, 29 May 91 10:51
From: "Thomas Koenig"
 <UI0T%DKAUNI2.BITNET@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
Subject: Strange Tempus / Mupfel / AES bug
To: Info-Atari16 Discussion       <info-atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu>
 
I recently stumbled across what I cosider to be a bug in Tempus,
Mupfel, AES or any combination of these...
 
I did the following things:
 
1) I installed a renamed Tempus somewhere along my $PATH, with
different installations from the ones I normally use, which I named
VI.PRG :-)
 
2) In Mupfel, I set the Variable VI_PRG to D:N, in order to avoid
typing 
tree every time I wanted to load another text from my working
directory
 
3) In my current directory, I wrote a program which uses rscs_load()
and rscs_gaddr() afterward to get the addresses of some strings for
error messages.  There were no other AES calls in between.
 
All the calls returned 1 to indicate successful completion.
 
What I got as pointers, however, was far from correct; all of them
had their lower words set to zero, and there was one NULL pointer.
Needless to say, my program threw two bombs at me as soon as I used
these pointers...
 
All of the conditions in 1) and 2) were necessary to reproduce this
bug.  The SHEL_FIX program did not help.
 
I used a Mega ST 2 with TOS 1.04, Tempus 2.01 and 2.10 and Mupfel 1.2.
The only resident programs were AHDI 3.0 and POOLFIX3.
 
Nice, eh?
 
Thomas Koenig
EARN/BITNET :      UI0T@DKAUNI2.BITNET
INTERNET    :      UI0T@IBM3090.RZ.UNI-KARLSRUHE.DE
X.400       :      S=UI0T;OU=IBM3090;OU=RZ;P=UNI-KARLSRUHE;A=DBP;C=DE
 
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Date: 29 May 91 09:42:15 GMT
From: mcsun!ukc!icdoc!syma!grahamt@uunet.uu.net (Graham S Thomas)
Subject: ST User Virus!
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
From article <10099@suns2.crosfield.co.uk>, by imt@crosfield.co.uk (ian taylor):
> (This is probably only of interest to UK netters, although I believe ST User
> magazine is available internationally by mail order)
>
> Has anyone had problems with this months (June) ST User cover disk?
> I think that there is a free virus included on the coverdisk, which mangled
> the directory of two of my disks before I eradicated it. This is the second
> time that ST User has done this, and frankly I am bloody unimpressed. Anyone
> who's got this disk, beware.
 
I checked this out with George Woodside's VKILLER.  My disk is clean.
It was formatted with Martin Backschat's FASTCOPY III, and has a
formatter ID of 'IBM' in bytes 3-5 of the bootsector, but the serial
number is OK - i.e. it doesn't correspond with an MS-DOS version number.
 
It looks like ST User is innocent this time.  (Innocent of this, at
least.  On the cover disk is what they call - several times - the 'very
latest version of UniTerm'.  The version is in fact 2.0c.  The last
version that Simon Poole released is, I believe, 2.0e011.  2.0c is quite
usable; if they didn't shout so much about the program being "hot from
the programmer's fingertips" - with a 1987 copyright date??? - I
wouldn't mind.)
 
Graham
--
Graham Thomas, SPRU, Mantell Building, U of Sussex, Brighton, BN1 9RF, UK
Email: grahamt@syma.sussex.ac.uk   Phone: +44 273 678165   Fax: .. 685865
 
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Date: Wed, 29 May 91 21:24:05 SST
From: Suthipuntha <AKISUJAR%NUSVM.BITNET@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
Subject: TRANSFERRING FILE TO & FROM PORTFOLIO
To: INFO-ATARI16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
Hello,
 
Although I bought my Atari Portfolio since it first released last year, I
hardly use it. I recently try its parallel and serial adapters. I can use
both to print the document with the HP LaserJet IIP but I cannot use both
adapter to transfer files to and from the Mega 4. I have tried parallel file
 transfer using the software that comes with the adapter called 'FT.COM' and
running FT.COM on Mega4 with SuperCharger but I cannot get it to work.
 
It works well when I connected to IBM-AT though. Is the problem due to the
Mega 'non standard' parallel prot with no busy signal on pin 10? Is there any-
way to work around this problem (such as putting jumper, etc.).
 
Serial interface also not working with Mega 4. I tried it with Flash V1.6 on
Mega 4.  I also found that the pin out in the serial interface manual is not
correct (may be only applies to the manual of the 1st batch of portfolio). It
took me few hours to figure out by making a serial cable to link it to the Lase
rJet IIP first the PIN 2 and PIN 3 has to be reverse from what shown in the
manual in order to get file to print. Pin out for modem cable also incorrect.
ct
It is very unfortunate that both computer are the same brand but cannot communi
-cate to each other whereas the Z88 has no problem in transmit and receive file
to and from Atari Mega 4.
 
I would appreciate any suggestion/solution on this matter. Anyone has more luck
 or has written a proper transfer program for the ST?
 
I also recall someone mentioned about the Portfolio Discussion group. I would
like to know the address of them too.
 
 Thanks in advance,
 
 Suthipuntha, School of Architecture, National University of Singapore
               AKISUJAR@NUSVM.BITNET
 
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Date: Wed, 29 May 91 10:35 N
From: <MFAGKCHR%HMARL5.BITNET@pucc.PRINCETON.EDU>
Subject: TT users
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
slammy@admiral.UUCP (Dave Litchman) writes:
 
>Ok, I'm sure we've all SEEN the TT, at shows and such, but does anyone
>HAVE one yet?
 
Yes, I even use it.
 
                Chris Evelo
 
==============================================================
Dept. of Occup. &                    Chris Evelo
Environm. Health                     MFAGKCHR@HMARL5 (BITNET)
and Toxicology.
University of Limburg                Tel: 31-43-888635
P.O. Box 616                         Fax: 31-43-436080
6200 MD Maastricht
The Netherlands
==============================================================
 
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Date: Wed, 29 May 91 11:42:03 +0100
From: Stephen Kendrick <stephenk@cogs.sussex.ac.uk>
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
        I am getting a TT, but I already have an HD with an ICD host adapter
and driver software. This allows me to select the boot partition, auto folder
progs, and accessories. I ****!!!NEED!!!**** this feature, but am afraid I will
lose it if I have to boot from the TT's own drive. Any Ideas on how to get
around this would be welcolmed.
        Would this dealer list tell me where I could get a US TT, thereby
saving myself a lot of $$$s? If so, how do I get hold of it?
        On the subject of ST World, it does appear to be going monthly as a
supplement free with Atari ST User, and it's not worth the paper it's written
on any more. Lets hope someone brings out a TT World, devoid of any gaming type
rubbish for us more serious users!!
        The slow boot up of !!ALL!! Atari machines from hard disk is indeed due
to the length of time they try to see a floppy. This allows people to put a disk
in AFTER turning on the machine, if they don't like doing so before. The reason
they always look for a floppy is to allow a floppy boot to override the HD boot.
Why? Well, what if your latest Auto folder or DA master piece on the HD keeps
crashing, and you don't have the option to select them? What could you do about
it if the machine always booted straight from HD first? Atari moves in
mysterious ways, their wonders to perform.
        On the subject of UNIX for the TT, is it going to be available as a
package after purchase? If so, will it allow X11/Xwindows and X/GemOnX to run,
or even include them? Will a poor, lowly, Skint English Student be able to
afford such a package?
        More Questions...Can you upgrade TT Ram with 4Mb(8 bit) SIMMs?? If so,
then why is it $300 cheaper to buy a TT2 and upgrade to 10Mb, than to buy a
TT8. This is why I want a UNIX package AFTER purchase!!!
        Last, but not least, Will the 1280x960 Wyse Monochrome 16" monitor
produce the Hi Res TT display? I can get one for 352 pound sterling.
 
        Thanks for reading all this if you did. If you didn't, so what?
 
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