Info-Atari16 Digest         Tue, 24 Dec 91       Volume 91 : Issue 675
 
Today's Topics:
                   CASSETTE INSERT MAKER FOR TEH ST
                           CFN Online chat
                     Files sent to atari.archive
                   FTP dir on dsrgsun.ces.cwru.edu
                         HERMES UUCP PACKAGE
                      Mail server @ terminator?
                       MEGAFILE 44 HELP NEEDED
                          Mega STE Questions
                              Merry Xmas
             Problem with file in ATARI.ARCHIVE.UMICH.EDU
                           Quick ST support
             ST FORMAT GAME DIED: Imagework's INTERPHASE
                          TeX Shell Uploaded
                         TIFF to PostScript ?
                             TT questions
                        Wanted: Internal Drive
                     Weekly Posting of New Stuff
             Which is better to run for ST acceleration?
                             X-mas gift..
 
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Date: 23 Dec 91 09:42:40 GMT
From: timbuk.cray.com!hemlock.cray.com!marc@uunet.uu.net (Marc Bouron)
Subject: CASSETTE INSERT MAKER FOR TEH ST
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
In article <1991Dec22.050849.4925@cunews.carleton.ca>,
 wcsanil@superior.carleton.ca (Anil Prasad) writes:
> THis is my second post requesting a cassette insert maker for the ST.
>
> Surely one exists! I've seen excellent programs for just about every
> other computer. Please respond via email to wcsanil@ccs.carleton.ca
> if you have one or know of one.
>
> Anil Prasad
> wcsanil@ccs.carleton.ca
>
 
There is a program called CLEDnnn.LZH (can't remember the version) at
atari.archive.  It was written as an example of GEM programming, so you
might find it in the /programming directory.
 
 
[M][a][r][c]
 
 
################################################################################
#                           #  marc@hemlock.cray.com             #    .   .    #
#  Marc CR Bouron           #  M.Bouron@cray.co.uk       (ARPA)  #   _|\ /|_   #
#  Cray Research (UK) Ltd.  #  M.Bouron@crayuk.uucp    (DOMAIN)  #  (_|_V_|_)  #
#  +44 344 485971 x2208     #  M.Bouron@uk.co.cray      (JANET)  #    |   |    #
#                           #  ...!uknet!crayuk!M.Bouron (UUCP)  #             #
################################################################################
 
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Date: 24 Dec 91 17:36:42 GMT
From:
 noao!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!qt.cs.utexas.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!think.com!
 spool.mu.edu!agate!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!cleveland.Freenet.Edu!aa399@arizona.edu
 (Len Stys)
Subject: CFN Online chat
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
I have been getting some e-mail on the letter I'm planning to
write Atari but I would really like to talk to you guys online.
 
If you have telnet access, try logging on the Cleveland Free-Net.
The system has multi-user chat.  We can get our heads together and
write Atari a letter.  I know it will get through because it has in
the past.  I know this because I talked to the person who got it and
he quoted me things from it.
 
Once we write the letter, we can say to ourselves, "HEY!  We told them
what we wanted, if they screw it up, we can't help them!"
 
You would telnet to 129.22.8.75
 
If you can't get in with that address, I'll find another one.
 
If you don't have an ID already, I don't know what to say.  It takes about
two weeks and I am hoping to have the conference this weekend or
something.
 
And if you forgot what my letter was about, it is a letter about what
we would like to see Atari's new ST computers have.  I've been told
they are still under development so we can still get in our suggestions.
 
Thanks.
 
 
P.S. That is NOT an FTP number.  Telnet and FTP are different.
Len
 
--
 
 
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Date: 23 Dec 91 09:39:38 GMT
From:
 iWarp.intel.com|ichips!inews!imutm1.de.intel.com!gold.sub.org!tokna.gold.sub.or
 g!root@uunet.uu.net (Thomas Knauer)
Subject: Files sent to atari.archive
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
Hi,
 
In <3171@wet.UUCP>, Ed Krimen writes:
 
>In article <91345.152652ONM07@DMSWWU1A.BITNET> ONM07@DMSWWU1A.BITNET writes:
>>In article <3141@wet.UUCP>, ekrimen@wet.UUCP (Ed Krimen) says:
>>>
>>>These files were just sent to Jeff at atari.archive.
>>>
>>>KAOS21EG.LZH  83456  KAOS 2.1 Desktop in English.
>>
>>As far as I know, this is a commercial product!!!
>
>Hmm, I got it off GEnie.  They're usually not open to having commercial
>products uploaded to them. ;~)
>
>I checked the docs and didn't see any reference as to whether it was
>commercial, shareware, or freeware.
>
>   |||    Ed Krimen
>   |||    ekrimen@wet.UUCP or hoptoad!wet!ekrimen
>  / | \   E.KRIMEN (GEnie)
 
KAOS, the alternative OS is a commercial product. But this applies only
for the "genuine" OS itself (i.e. ROM-files etc.).
 
Some utilities like KAOSDESK may be copied and distributed.
 
Greeting,
 
Thomas
 
 
--
 
     Thomas Knauer                FIDO: Thomas Knauer @ 2:244/8002.11
     Tessiner Str. 144            UUCP: fendrich@salyko.doit.sub.org
     8000 Muenchen 71                       root@tokna.gold.sub.org
     089/7593673                on IRC: TKnauer
 
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Date: 23 Dec 91 15:04:00 GMT
From: ral.arc.nasa.gov!semra@icarus.riacs.edu (Donald George)
Subject: FTP dir on dsrgsun.ces.cwru.edu
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
Hello,
I've only tried to post once before and I don't even know if that one got
out.  I've been trying to access dsrgsun.ces.cwru.edu for access to the
atari archives that are (were?) there.  I'm unable to get a directory
after an anonymous FTP login.  It seems that there is a /pub/atari directory,
but I can't see what's in it.  I assume that it's set up that way for
security reasons.  Which brings up my questions:
 
1. Are there still archives there?
2. If there are, how do you find out what's there?
 
Email replies to semra@ral.arc.nasa.gov and place my name (Don George) in
the reply as this is a shared account.  Also, since I don't know if my posts
are going out or not, could someone please reply anyway.  Let's set a time
limit of about a day to reply, that way I don't get bomarded with replies
from now until doomsday (not too likely, but you never know).  Thanks for
the help.
 
 
I guess I need to make up a sig one of these days.
 
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Date: 23 Dec 91 21:15:26 GMT
From:
 noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!van-bc!jonh.wims
 ey.bc.ca!jhenders@arizona.edu (John Henders)
Subject: HERMES UUCP PACKAGE
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
In <693355394.2@fquest.FidoNet>, Mark Spacek writes:
>
>    Hi, I tried sending you some mail inquiring about the mailing list you
>mentioned and tring to see what help I could get in trying to set up Hermes.  I
>never got a reply.
        I take it you're talking to me. I did send you mail, got no bounce.
I've tried testing a bang path. Let me know if it works.
 
> ..I was
>asking about setting up Hermes to run as an event under BBS Express!, we are
>thinking about bringing in the ST Usenet messages, converting them over to the
>local message base format, and possibly converting outgoing messages back over
>for export.
        I don't think this would be the best way to do this. Too many
problems arise when you try to juggle message formats, and errors can
make you very unpopular. The monthly " Some FidoNet site's dumping garbage
on the net again" threads are very enlightening in regards to much damage
can be done by software that assumes too much.
        A far better solution, IMO, RCSU, would be to write a doors interface
to Mercury, and flesh out the bare bones rn and elm that came in that
package. BBS Express uses a very C like script language, so if you can
handle that, C shouldn't be much of a leap. You need to keep your
Usenet mail and news very clean nowadays, as the major hubs are using
C news, which is getting stricter and stricter about what it'll pass.
Articles have been dropped on the floor for a misplaced comma in the
header.
 
>..... Oh, BTW, what do you know
>about the Usenet Mercury news groups that I've seen mentioned here.  Do you get
>them?  A friend of mine with an account at the University of Texas looked
>around and they don't get anything like that there.  Just wondering...
        I think the mercury groups are a German only distribution, and
you'd have to get your admin to get uunet or someoone who gets the groups
to forward it to you.
 
        TO ALL PLANNING TO SAT UP A UUCP SITE, HOWEVER SMALL.
 
        Read the news.admin group regularly for a while. There also
will hopefully be a new group called news.transport(s), which you'll
need to follow. These groups let you keep up with what's happening
in news software, and by running a uucp  site, however small, you are
an admin, and should keep current on what's going on.
        I found out there that a recent change to Cnews had tightened up
on Date: header parsing, and all my messages were being dropped on the
floor. ( Thanks Matthew )
 
        Re: Mailing Lists. The response has been small, and Hermes doesn't
make mailing list administration easy, so it's a no go. However, I've
agreed to provide NA support, for what little I've figured out so far,
and will refer any thing I can't explain to Martin. This is for Hermes,
as I no longer use Mercury, plus the English doc available for Mercury
are quite good.
 
--
                 John Henders            jhenders@jonh.wimsey.bc.ca
                 Vancouver,BC             or ubc.cs!van-bc!jonh!jhenders
 
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Date: 19 Dec 91 01:01:24 GMT
From:
 noao!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!uwm.edu!linac!uchinews!msuinfo!sharkey!umich!terminat
 or!brode@arizona.edu (Jon Brode)
Subject: Mail server @ terminator?
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
In article <95679@bu.edu> selick@bucsf.bu.edu (Steven Selick) writes:
>I was just wondering if there was a mail server for the atari files at
>terminator.cc.umich.edu that are available via ftp.
 
Yep, send a message to atari@atari.archive.umich.edu with a body of "help"
and you will get instructions for using the mail server.
 
Jon
 
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Date: 23 Dec 91 20:25:29 GMT
From: noao!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!usc!rpi!pinelr@arizona.edu (Robert Jeffrey
 Pinelli)
Subject: MEGAFILE 44 HELP NEEDED
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
In article <693355394.1@fquest.FidoNet> Mark.Spacek@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Mark
 Spacek) writes:
>I'm posting the following for a local friend who doesn't use Usenet.  Any help
>would be appreciated.  Either post it here or e-mail me, people have told me
>that they are having trouble getting mail to me and are having to use the bang
>path to get it through though....  Anyway, on with the show
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------
>    Okay, folks, got a problem someone may be able to help me with, I
>hope.  I've recently gotten a Megafile 44 Syquest cartridge drive.  For
>the most part, it works just fine, but it's got a couple quirks.  When I
 
   Speaking of 44meg removeables... There was a post here a while back from
someone looking to sell his Toadfile 44meg drive.  If the drive is still
available, I would be very interested in its purchase.  I'm sorry to waste
the bandwidth but I can't search back for the article as I believe it has been
purged from the news system here.
 
                            Thanks,
                                Rob
(replies via email please)
 
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Date: 24 Dec 91 02:06:35 GMT
From:
 noao!ncar!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!usc!wupost!csus.edu!nic.csu.net!csun.edu!kithrup
 !hoptoad!wet!ekrimen@arizona.edu (Ed Krimen)
Subject: Mega STE Questions
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
In article <1991Dec12.165324.7077@csv.viccol.edu.au> gjocc@csv.viccol.edu.au
 writes:
>A few questions on the Mega STE:
>
>What graphics cards are available and what software will support them?
>(I have a 1024 * 768 colour Multiscan monitor).
>
>Does the Dave Small 68030 board work in a Mega STE?
 
Last question first, no, it doesn't.  George Richardson, of the Merlin Group
who designed the board, said that Dave wants one for the MSTE, but there may
not be enough room in the machine for one.  If he is able to get one made,
he said that you shouldn't expect it within the year.
 
As for the first question, there's the Matrix cards from Germany.  There's
also AlberTT (1024x768 w/ 16 colors from a palette of 4096).  It's VDI-
compatible, so it works with a lot of stuff, like DynaCADD, Calamus SL, etc.
Finally, there's Leonardo24: 512x512 with 16 million colors; it will show as
many of those 16mil as you can fit on the screen (512x512=262,144 colors).
First 50 are $400 from Lexicor.  It will run on an SC1224 or SC1435 or
multisync monitor.  Has NTSC output.
 
 
--
   |||    Ed Krimen
   |||    ekrimen@wet.UUCP or hoptoad!wet!ekrimen
  / | \   E.KRIMEN (GEnie)
 
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Date: 24 Dec 91 16:33:03 GMT
From:
 noao!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!wupost!micro-heart-of-gold.mit.edu!bu.edu!bucsf.bu.ed
 u!harryk@arizona.edu (Harry Karayiannis)
Subject: Merry Xmas
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
           Merry Christmas                          ~
                                                   ~~~
                and                               ~~~~~
                                                 ~~~~~~~
           Happy New Year                       ~~~~~~~~~
                                               ~~~~~~~~~~~
                                                   | ||
 
 
 
 
 
 
=============================================================================
Author of ATZENTA2         Harry Karayiannis           ________E-Mail________
                    15 N.Beacon, #316   Boston Univ.  |INTERnet:
**  || ATARI   **   Allston, MA 02134   Computer Sc.  | harryk@bucsf.bu.edu
** /||\ MegaST **   U.S.A.                            |BITnet:
======================================================| cscrzcc@buacca.bu.edu
                                                       ----------------------
 
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Date: 24 Dec 91 02:53:09 GMT
From: noao!ncar!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!utgpu!cunews!wcsanil@arizona.edu (Anil
 Prasad)
Subject: Problem with file in ATARI.ARCHIVE.UMICH.EDU
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
The file cled122s.lzh in the applications/other section of the atari
archives at umich is severely corrupted. I don't know who I'm
supposed to contact about this, so I'm hoping someone can pass the
info along for me.
 
If anyone has a good copy of this program (it's a cassette insert
maker program), please get in touch with me at wcsanil@ccs.carleton.ca
 
Thanks.
 
Anil Prasad
 
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Date: 23 Dec 91 16:55:40 GMT
From:
 noao!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!sun-barr!cronkite.Central.Sun.COM!texsun!digi!rgosewe
 h@arizona.edu (Roy Gosewehr)
Subject: Quick ST support
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
My opinion (flame away if it makes you feel good):
 
I have Turbo ST and am quite happy with it.  Although I was curious
about QST3, I *definitely* would not buy it from D. Mihocka (sp?).  Yes,
his consistently poor attitude does make a difference to me.  However,
now that the CodeHeads are responsible for QST3, I *will* upgrade from
Turbo ST.  Mind you, I don't "need" to, but I do want to support the
CodeHeads.  I just hope that the amount of $ that goes to DM (if any) is
kept to a minimum!  :-)
 
Happy Holidays to all!
 
Roy C. Gosewehr
 
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Date: 23 Dec 91 02:13:42 GMT
From: mcsun!uknet!slxsys!ibmpcug!demon!news@uunet.uu.net (Iain Laskey)
Subject: ST FORMAT GAME DIED: Imagework's INTERPHASE
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
Interphase was a commercial game costing around 25 UKP. It was put on
ST Format as a freebie cover disk program. It's fairly unlikely that ST
Format will be able to help as it's not their program.
As for Starglider 1 - This doesn't work with later ST's so check before
you buy if at all possible. I think the games OK up to TOS1.4 though.
 
  ###############################
  # Iain R Laskey               #
  # ilaskey@cix.compulink.co.uk #
  ###############################
 
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Date: 23 Dec 91 14:54:04 GMT
From: mcsun!uknet!warwick!nott-cs!lut.ac.uk!elmar@uunet.uu.net (Mohammad A.
 Rahin)
Subject: TeX Shell Uploaded
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
I have recently uploaded version 1.3 of RTEXSHLL to atari.archive. This may
come useful for those wanting to run a minimal TeX system. One bug present
in the presently available version is removed & some new features are also
added. Look for file RTEXSH13.ZOO in directory atari/newitems (initially) and
later in directory atari/tex/shells.
 
- Rahin
 
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Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1991 16:22 WET-DST
From: "Thomas Hantke, KVI Groningen, Zernikelaan 25, NL-9747 AA Groningen, The
 Netherlands, phone ++31 50-633259"
Subject: TIFF to PostScript ?
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
TIFF to PostScript (PS)
 
Hi netters,
 
I am looking for a conversion program for TIFF files directly to
PostScript (PS). I need the conversion for (uncompressed) black/white
and (uncompressed) gray scale pictures. The program/code should be
usable from the command line interpreter (i.e. DOS, no mouse/windows
whatsoever). I recently got the TIFF 5.0 documentation. If somebody has
already got some C/Pascal code/program I would appreciate it if he/she
could contact me.
 
Please send your reactions to me directly; I'll summarize to the net.
 
Cheers, Thomas.
 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
| Thomas Hantke                e-mail: hantke@kvi.nl                     |
| KVI Groningen                phone : ++3150-745760 (work)              |
| Zernikelaan 25                       ++3150-778777 (home)              |
| NL-9747 AA  Groningen        fax   : ++3150-634556                     |
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
 
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Date: 19 Dec 91 19:25:58 GMT
From: mcsun!sun4nl!hp4nl!tedux!alice.hobby.nl!harold@uunet.uu.net (Harold van
 Aalderen)
Subject: TT questions
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
In <1991Dec12.232747.3622@bernina.ethz.ch>, Rudi V. Drunen Groningen writes:
 
>1: Is the TT sold without a Hard disk ?, or have all configurations
>   a hard drive installed ?
 
Yes
 
>2: Can I add my Quantum 105Mb SCSI drive to the system without making
>   serious hardware modifications (other than opening the machine, and
>   connecting the drive )
 
Yes
 
>3: Can I use my standard atari monochrome monitor (SM 124) with the TT
>   if yes, in all monochrome resolutions ? or just the ST modes ?
>   What monitor do I need for the color modes. Can a 'standard' multisync
>   VGA monitor do the job ?
 
SM124 NO standard VGA yes
 
>4: How to add memory ? Do I need SIMMS or SIPPS, and which speed ?
>   can I just add memory by plugging in a couple of 1Mbyte / 70 ns
>   SIMMS ?
 
SIMMS, don't know any details
 
>6: The machine has a 1.44 Mb disk drive. Can I write and read 360K and 720K
>   floppies reliable ?
 
Be sure to get the 1.44 Mb drive only the newest models have them and be
sure to get TOS 3.06 inside, since that one will support 1.44 Mb drives
 
>7: About UNIX :
>   The whole world is full of rumours about it. Is it available ?, if yes
>   Is it stable ? how much disk / memory does it take ? has it X ? are there
>   compilers for it ?
>   Is it an Additional product (ie. can I buy it later) or do I need to
>   buy it preinstalled with my system ?
 
UNIX is only available to developers at the moment, don't expect user version
before spring 1992 (that is what I heard from Atari)
It takes 80Mb disk space seem to run stable an satisfactorly. It is delivered
preinstalled on a large HD (210Mb or bigger) which can be bought later and
installed. I am not sure if the Unix disk (which is a SCSI) must be the internal
SCSI unit 0 and how you can choose between TOS and UNIX at boottime.
 
 
>8: How about compatibility? Does all TOS software (all serious software I mean)
>   run ?
 
Should be 95% (games excluded), the other 5% is either already updated or
flaky anyway
 
>9: What's the keyboard like ? Is it much better than the 1040 ? and compared
>   to the mega STs keyboard ?
 
Seemed to be quit plesant
 
 
PS. I do not own a TT it is al just what I heard and was able to try/see
at several occasions.
 
--
Harold van Aalderen |  harold@alice.hobby.nl
                    |  {...!mcsun}!hp4nl!hgatenl!tedux!alice!harold
alice: She's not the neighbour girl nor is she living in wonderland
       Who it is? For me to know for you to guess.
 
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Date: 24 Dec 91 15:12:52 GMT
From: sae!sae.com!malay@uunet.uu.net (Bob Malay)
Subject: Wanted: Internal Drive
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
I've been given a 1040STf that was in pretty bad shape - it was disassembled,
missing the power cord, missing the mouse, and the DSDD internal drive is
not working. I re-assembled it, found a spare power cord, and hooked it to
my monitors (color & mono) - it seems to work fine except for the drive.
Anybody happen to have a 1040STf DSDD internal drive (the one with the eject
button in the lower middle) they want to part with. I also need a mouse but
I don't want to spend 40 bucks or so on a new one??
 
 
Bob Malay
 
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Date: 21 Dec 91 18:11:59 GMT
From:
 netnews.upenn.edu!msuinfo!sharkey!umich!terminator!usenet@rutgers.rutgers.edu
 (Atari Archive Robot)
Subject: Weekly Posting of New Stuff
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
  drwxrwxr-x jon        4608    Dec 15 10:30 ./games
  -rw-r--r-- weiner     236333  Dec 15 10:29 ./games/omega.zoo
  -rw-r--r-- weiner     26624   Dec 15 10:30 ./games/tectic.lzh
  -rw-rw-r-- weiner     9716    Dec 15 10:32 ./games/Index
  -rw-r--r-- weiner     2526    Dec 15 10:37 ./programming/Index
  -rw-r--r-- weiner     137066  Dec 15 10:36 ./programming/crystal.zoo
  drwxrwxr-x jon        1024    Dec 15 21:47 ./gnustuff
  drwxrwxr-x jon        512     Dec 16 00:58 ./cli
  -rw-r--r-- weiner     238341  Dec 15 10:25 ./cli/okami13b.lzh
  -rw-rw-r-- weiner     707     Dec 16 00:58 ./cli/Index
  lrwxrwxrwx weiner     16      Dec 15 21:46 ./cli/tcsh.zoo -> ../mint/tcsh.zoo
  -rw-rw-r-- weiner     88410   Dec 16 00:59 ./Index
  drwxrwxr-x weiner     1024    Dec 15 21:44 ./mint
  -rw-rw-r-- weiner     40320   Dec 15 10:22 ./mint/fgrep11.zoo
  -rw-rw-r-- weiner     94480   Dec 15 10:22 ./mint/sed108st.zoo
  -rw-rw-r-- weiner     2045    Dec 15 21:46 ./mint/Index
  -rw-r--r-- weiner     207336  Dec 15 21:41 ./mint/mint092b.zoo
  -rw-r--r-- weiner     263682  Dec 15 21:41 ./mint/mint092s.zoo
  -rw-r--r-- weiner     203228  Dec 15 21:44 ./mint/tcsh.zoo
  -rw-r--r-- weiner     76653   Dec 15 21:58 ./ls-lR.Z
  -rw-rw-r-- weiner     46076   Dec 16 00:59 ./CompInd.Z
  drwxrwxr-x gray       512     Dec 16 04:12 ./gnustuff/tos/redundant
  drwxrwxr-x gray       512     Dec 16 04:18 ./gnustuff/tos/emacs/emacs18.57
  -rw-rw-r-- gray       602279  Dec 16 04:16
 ./gnustuff/tos/emacs/emacs18.57/1857bin-d2.zoo
  -rw-rw-r-- gray       2744    Dec 16 04:14
 ./gnustuff/tos/emacs/emacs18.57/aa.gnu.emacs1857
  -rw-rw-r-- gray       448480  Dec 16 04:16
 ./gnustuff/tos/emacs/emacs18.57/1857src-d2.zoo
  -rw-rw-r-- gray       12480   Dec 16 04:18 ./gnustuff/tos/emacs/emacs18.57/Contents
  -rw-rw-r-- gray       3314    Dec 16 04:20 ./gnustuff/tos/ls-R
  -rw-rw-r-- gray       14422   Dec 16 04:20 ./gnustuff/tos/ls-Rl
  drwxrwxr-x jon        512     Dec 16 09:58 ./cli
  -rw-rw-r-- weiner     707     Dec 16 09:58 ./cli/Index
  -rw-r--r-- weiner     238745  Dec 16 09:57 ./cli/okami13b.zoo
  drwxrwxr-x jon        2048    Dec 19 03:12 ./archivers
  -rw-rw-r-- hyc        64516   Dec 19 03:11 ./archivers/arc521e.arc
  -rw-rw-r-- hyc        49119   Dec 19 03:12 ./archivers/arc.ttp
  -rw-rw-r-- weiner     3351    Dec 18 10:41 ./archivers/Index
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Date: 23 Dec 91 17:00:18 GMT
From:
 noao!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!tamsun!inetg1!ut-emx!ccwf.cc.utexas.edu!arioch@arizon
 a.edu (Brett Hurt)
Subject: Which is better to run for ST acceleration?
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
Which is better to run for reliability and performance.. Turbo ST 1.4 or
Quick ST?
 
Thanks,
 Brett
 
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Date: 23 Dec 91 17:05:23 GMT
From: sun-barr!cronkite.Central.Sun.COM!texsun!digi!rgoseweh@ames.arpa (Roy
 Gosewehr)
Subject: X-mas gift..
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
In article <"929*.S=edb02.O=dhmolde.PRMD=uninett.ADMD=..C=no."@MHS>
 edb02@dhmolde.no (Torbjorn Ose) writes:
>What I want for x-mas more than anything is that Richard Covert
>disappears from this list..
 
The neat thing about this wish is that if it comes true a lot of other
folks will have a very Merry Christmas too!  :-)
 
Happy Holidays (yes, even you R.C. - it's that time of year. :-)
 
Roy C. Gosewehr
 
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